Is this the same Colin Powell who has said that the Bush administration
has deliberately kept him misinformed, and who said that he in turn
mislead the UN?

NOYB wrote:
According to Colin Powell's speech to the UN on Feb. 5th, 2003:


a.. Abu Musaq Zaqarwi: poison terror training center, including ricin.
Photo of factory at Kurmal.

And this is proof of Saddam's involvement... how?

... One pinch kills in 72 hours, no antidote.

Other than to invoke panic, is there any reason that the effectiveness
of the poison is evidence against Saddam?

a.. Developed with al Qaeda safe haven in Kurdish NE Iraq, where Saddam
has agent.

Trying to help or hurt? Considering that Al Queda had several times
publicly declared Saddam Hussein to be one of their biggest enemies, it
seems unlikely to me that an "Al queda safe haven" in territory
controlled by enemies of Saddam is very good proof he was involved in
the Sept 11th attack.

a.. Terrorists have gathered in Baghdad for 8 months. In contact with al-
Zaqarwi.

Which terrorists? Gathering for what purpose?

It seems very murky and incomplete to me. OTOH the simple facts are that
the Sept 11th terrorists were Saudis and Egyptian. Have we seen any
anti-terrorist operations in Egypt on Saudi Arabia?

But wait, there's more. The Turks were among our best allies in the
Middle East, now they are coming to hate us. The Syrians were very
cooperative in anti-terrorist operations, now Bush & Cheney have slapped
them with sanctions and they are likely to begin aiding & abetting them.
North Korea is closer than ever to having an atom bomb, and Bush &
Cheney have done nothing about that. Furthermore, Wolfowitz and
Rumsfeld's policy of deliberately flouting the Geneva Convention seems
to be skating closer and closer to a war crimes issue. Their
politicization of the U.S. intelligence community is making it less and
less effective.

This is just a short list, and makes it readily apparent that Bush &
Cheney's strategy seems curiously ineffective in fighting terrorism.
OTOH it is tremendously effective in generating profits for military
contractors starting with Halliburton of course.

DSK

On Mon, 17 May 2004 15:50:26 +0000, NOYB wrote:

U.S. Army Says It Finds Shell with Sarin Agent in Iraq

"However, a senior coalition source has told the BBC the round does not
signal the discovery of weapons of mass destruction or the escalation of
insurgent activity."

"He said the round dated back to the Iran-Iraq war and coalition officials
were not sure whether the fighters even knew what it contained."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3722255.stm

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 15:50:26 +0000, NOYB wrote:

U.S. Army Says It Finds Shell with Sarin Agent in Iraq

"However, a senior coalition source

*My* story quotes an actual named source (Gen. Kimmitt). *Your* story
quotes an anonymous "senior coalition source". Consequently, I'd be more
inclined to believe my story than yours.

Liberals seem to quote a lot of anonymous sources. Is that because most
people don't want to admit to talking to liberals? Or is it because liberals
lie about their sources?

NOYB wrote:

Liberals seem to quote a lot of anonymous sources. Is that because most
people don't want to admit to talking to liberals? Or is it because liberals
lie about their sources?

It's because the few neocons who are bothered by the stink of a decaying
regime are still too frightened to speak openly.

Read a few history books, NOYB. Without exception they show you the
course of the next few years. It's a shame Bush has never read one.

Rick

"Rick" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Liberals seem to quote a lot of anonymous sources. Is that because most
people don't want to admit to talking to liberals? Or is it because
liberals
lie about their sources?

It's because the few neocons who are bothered by the stink of a decaying
regime are still too frightened to speak openly.

Read a few history books, NOYB. Without exception they show you the
course of the next few years. It's a shame Bush has never read one.

Rick


Phillippines. In between a million other things, I've been working my way
through a great book on our little adventure there. There are paragraphs
which could be dropped verbatim into a current newspaper article on Iraq,
and still be 100% accurate. And, there are entire chapters which fit the
current situation perfectly if the names of the politicians were changed.
There's even a latter-day Michael Moo Mark Twain.