On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:01:48 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:39:14 -0700, "William Andersen"
wrote:

First, the only time the term right of way is used in the Navigation Rules,
is in regards to a vessel coming down a river.
Pleasure craft don't have to yield to commercial craft.

Not true. There is no distinction between "commercial" and pleasure.
There is a distinction between fishing, size and/or maneuverability
with respect to other vessels.

We really don't have enough information on this because Matt didn't
specify if he was upbound and downbound as specified in Inland Rule
#14.

Inland Rule 9(d) covers this, but it's kind of iffy based on Matt's
information.

Inland Rule 10 also might apply. If Matt was in a recognized Traffic
Separation Scheme - your side, my side kind of thing- then the turn
may have been entirely legal, but it appears to be unlikely.

Everyone has to avoid a collision.

International Rule 7 and 8 - exactly right.

Whoops - International/Inland rule 7 and 8. My bad.

My opinion -- I always say..BIGGER boats always have the right of way!! Just
kidding. I think everyone should try and avoid any collision!!

--
Bill & Debbie
04 -- Yam TTR125 (Electric Start)
04 -- Honda XR400
04 -- Honda XR150
04 -- Honda CRF50 04 & 05 (Grandkids)
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:01:48 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:39:14 -0700, "William Andersen"
wrote:

First, the only time the term right of way is used in the Navigation
Rules,
is in regards to a vessel coming down a river.
Pleasure craft don't have to yield to commercial craft.

Not true. There is no distinction between "commercial" and pleasure.
There is a distinction between fishing, size and/or maneuverability
with respect to other vessels.

We really don't have enough information on this because Matt didn't
specify if he was upbound and downbound as specified in Inland Rule
#14.

Inland Rule 9(d) covers this, but it's kind of iffy based on Matt's
information.

Inland Rule 10 also might apply. If Matt was in a recognized Traffic
Separation Scheme - your side, my side kind of thing- then the turn
may have been entirely legal, but it appears to be unlikely.

Everyone has to avoid a collision.

International Rule 7 and 8 - exactly right.

Whoops - International/Inland rule 7 and 8. My bad.

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:22:59 GMT, "William Smith"
wrote:

My opinion -- I always say..BIGGER boats always have the right of way!! Just
kidding. I think everyone should try and avoid any collision!!

That's a given - common sense and all that.

In fact, it wasn't but a few years ago - I want to say around ten or
thereabouts, where the rules were changed because some idiot on Long
Island Sound in a sail boat cut right across the bow of a tanker and
was sunk. It was even caught on video tape.

The idiot on the sail boat sued the tanker owners on right-of-way
issues and won - thus the rules change.

On the common sense -- But I look at it that if you are an idiot, rules and
common sense are thrown out the window. I can see why there are so many
boating accidents.
Here at one of the Lakes, Lake Castaic I believe, a 34' speed boat was doing
a pretty good speed, obviously well over the 35mph, (which we all go faster)
but this guy was moving. Down by the damn area alot of the boats just float
around. This guy ended up hitting one and killing 3 people. Idiot, no
common sense and no respect for other people in the area.
I will try and do anything I can to get out of the way of anything that
might be coming our way looking like its on a collision course, Rules or no
Rules.
Just a scaredy Cat....lol.....yea..i can swim also...

--
Bill & Debbie
93 Mariah 22'

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:22:59 GMT, "William Smith"
wrote:

My opinion -- I always say..BIGGER boats always have the right of way!!
Just
kidding. I think everyone should try and avoid any collision!!

That's a given - common sense and all that.

In fact, it wasn't but a few years ago - I want to say around ten or
thereabouts, where the rules were changed because some idiot on Long
Island Sound in a sail boat cut right across the bow of a tanker and
was sunk. It was even caught on video tape.

The idiot on the sail boat sued the tanker owners on right-of-way
issues and won - thus the rules change.

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:16:37 GMT, "William Smith"
wrote:

On the common sense -- But I look at it that if you are an idiot, rules and
common sense are thrown out the window. I can see why there are so many
boating accidents.
Here at one of the Lakes, Lake Castaic I believe, a 34' speed boat was doing
a pretty good speed, obviously well over the 35mph, (which we all go faster)
but this guy was moving. Down by the damn area alot of the boats just float
around. This guy ended up hitting one and killing 3 people. Idiot, no
common sense and no respect for other people in the area.
I will try and do anything I can to get out of the way of anything that
might be coming our way looking like its on a collision course, Rules or no
Rules.
Just a scaredy Cat....lol.....yea..i can swim also...

Sometimes you just want to reach down, pick up a 10 gauge shotgun
loaded with 00 buckshot and blast away.