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"*JimH*" wrote in message
... A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember this day. As long as you're remembering things, remember to respond to the inarguably perfect reason I gave you for your president's direct connection to oil prices. |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Doug Kanter wrote: "*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... That's: Bad for Bush Bad for the US Bad for boating. :-( I agree. And what exactly did Bush have to do with this? Well....if you're over the age of maybe 18, you may have noticed that prices of most, if not all investments are subject to the mood of the investors. JimH isn't anywhere near 18 mentally. Just look at his childish posts. Another insult. Yes. If I keep insulting you, I may possibly get equal to the amount of **** you've slung my way. Grow up. Is this all you are capable of posting? No. But, alas, you asked a specific question about why someone would think it's Bush's fault for the oil prices, I posted a very valid reason, and I get no response. Valid reason? Bzzzzzzzzz....wrong. That cut an paste of yours deserved no response. But if you care to believe it, more power to you Kevin. Why? Because I'm right, and you're like a little kid taking your ball home. Grow up. A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember this day. I'm not Kevin, and if I'm an idiot, it certainly makes you much, much worse. Now, you've chastised me here for insulting people. But, I never, ever said that I would refrain from such. YOU DID. I guess it was just another of your hundreds of lies here, huh? Now, as long as you keep calling me Kevin, I'll ask: will you be man enough to apologize when I prove I'm not Kevin? Now, before you show your stupidity, I've been emailing Clams. We're going to try to meet up in a couple of weeks. Well, are you at least man enough to answer? Nah....I doubt it. |
wrote in message oups.com... I'm Kevin. I wish that you had enough damned brains to get that straight. Will you be man enough to apologize when you find that out? I'll bet not. You aren't man enough to keep your word, or man enough to do anything but lie, deceive, and alter what people have posted. |
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"*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Doug Kanter wrote: "*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... That's: Bad for Bush Bad for the US Bad for boating. :-( I agree. And what exactly did Bush have to do with this? Well....if you're over the age of maybe 18, you may have noticed that prices of most, if not all investments are subject to the mood of the investors. JimH isn't anywhere near 18 mentally. Just look at his childish posts. Another insult. Yes. If I keep insulting you, I may possibly get equal to the amount of **** you've slung my way. Grow up. Is this all you are capable of posting? No. But, alas, you asked a specific question about why someone would think it's Bush's fault for the oil prices, I posted a very valid reason, and I get no response. Valid reason? Bzzzzzzzzz....wrong. That cut an paste of yours deserved no response. But if you care to believe it, more power to you Kevin. Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO Why? Because I'm right, and you're like a little kid taking your ball home. Grow up. A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember this day. |
That would be GOOSE stepping!!! LOFL!!! Jun 24, 12:11 pm show options Newsgroups: rec.boats From: - Find messages by this author Date: 24 Jun 2005 09:11:08 -0700 Local: Fri,Jun 24 2005 12:11 pm Subject: Oil reaches record $60 a barrel Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Tim wrote: His huge deficit, while still spending like a drunken sailor has devalued the dollar. You mean, like the democrat hero FDR did during the great depression? No, the ignorant will goose step to the party no matter what happens. The educated know better. Man. are you hardcore, or what? "Goos stepping??? LOFL!! That would be GOOSE stepping!!! LOFL!!! Well, you see, Jim, someone was flaming ME, what's good for the goose, is good for the gander. ..." OK, are you sure you didn't mean "GANDER stepping" ???? |
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:05:31 -0400, "Newsgroup Reader" wrote:
JohnH, It is funny that Kevin thinks someone showing Clams an ID showing that the person with the ID is not Kevin Noble is proof that Basskisser is not Kevin Noble. Basskisser has been sending me email asking me to meet up with Clams and show him my ID. ; ) "John H" wrote in message .. . On 24 Jun 2005 12:08:06 -0700, wrote: A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember this day. I'm not Kevin, and if I'm an idiot, it certainly makes you much, much worse. Now, you've chastised me here for insulting people. But, I never, ever said that I would refrain from such. YOU DID. I guess it was just another of your hundreds of lies here, huh? Now, as long as you keep calling me Kevin, I'll ask: will you be man enough to apologize when I prove I'm not Kevin? Now, before you show your stupidity, I've been emailing Clams. We're going to try to meet up in a couple of weeks. Well, are you at least man enough to answer? Nah....I doubt it. How many emails will it take to get Clams to say you're not Kevin? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." The solution is simple: Kevin should ask Harry to take him for a ride on the 36' Lobsta boat. Then Harry could check Kevin's birth certificate, driver's license, college diplomas (all of them), and any mug shots that may exist. Then Kevin could voutch for Harry's boat, and Harry could voutch for Kevin's lack of authenticity. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
Edit: 'vouch', not 'voutch'! Now I'll never get an English teacher to vouch for
my spelling abilities! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:05:31 -0400, "Newsgroup Reader" wrote: JohnH, It is funny that Kevin thinks someone showing Clams an ID showing that the person with the ID is not Kevin Noble is proof that Basskisser is not Kevin Noble. Basskisser has been sending me email asking me to meet up with Clams and show him my ID. ; ) "John H" wrote in message . .. On 24 Jun 2005 12:08:06 -0700, wrote: A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember this day. I'm not Kevin, and if I'm an idiot, it certainly makes you much, much worse. Now, you've chastised me here for insulting people. But, I never, ever said that I would refrain from such. YOU DID. I guess it was just another of your hundreds of lies here, huh? Now, as long as you keep calling me Kevin, I'll ask: will you be man enough to apologize when I prove I'm not Kevin? Now, before you show your stupidity, I've been emailing Clams. We're going to try to meet up in a couple of weeks. Well, are you at least man enough to answer? Nah....I doubt it. How many emails will it take to get Clams to say you're not Kevin? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." The solution is simple: Kevin should ask Harry to take him for a ride on the 36' Lobsta boat. Then Harry could check Kevin's birth certificate, driver's license, college diplomas (all of them), and any mug shots that may exist. Then Kevin could voutch for Harry's boat, and Harry could vouch for Kevin's lack of authenticity. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Add an independent third party to monitor it and that would indeed solve all the mysteries of rec.boats. Are you available John? Let's review this as it has possibilities. Harry is good buds with Kevin and I am sure he would love to show off his custom made 32 foot lobster boat as well as the new asphalt on his long driveway. Kevin and family are most likely itching for a nice vacation.....he is making good bucks on an engineers salary and can easily afford even a weekend vacation in Boston with his family....not a bad place to vacation. I am sure he can hook up with some $99 round trip tickets. Heck, Krause may even put them up for a couple of nights in his rural mansion reducing the cost of this vacation for Kevin even more. And with all the fish Krause catches a fish fry party would certainly be in order. It makes sense but it will never happen. Trust me on this. The reasons are obvious. ;-) |
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:05:02 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:
John H wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:05:31 -0400, "Newsgroup Reader" wrote: JohnH, It is funny that Kevin thinks someone showing Clams an ID showing that the person with the ID is not Kevin Noble is proof that Basskisser is not Kevin Noble. Basskisser has been sending me email asking me to meet up with Clams and show him my ID. ; ) "John H" wrote in message ... On 24 Jun 2005 12:08:06 -0700, wrote: A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember this day. I'm not Kevin, and if I'm an idiot, it certainly makes you much, much worse. Now, you've chastised me here for insulting people. But, I never, ever said that I would refrain from such. YOU DID. I guess it was just another of your hundreds of lies here, huh? Now, as long as you keep calling me Kevin, I'll ask: will you be man enough to apologize when I prove I'm not Kevin? Now, before you show your stupidity, I've been emailing Clams. We're going to try to meet up in a couple of weeks. Well, are you at least man enough to answer? Nah....I doubt it. How many emails will it take to get Clams to say you're not Kevin? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." The solution is simple: Kevin should ask Harry to take him for a ride on the 36' Lobsta boat. Then Harry could check Kevin's birth certificate, driver's license, college diplomas (all of them), and any mug shots that may exist. Then Kevin could voutch for Harry's boat, and Harry could voutch for Kevin's lack of authenticity. We had a great day boating today, Herring, but we didn't see you out on the water. We even popped into Deale for lunch. Beautiful weather, too. Will probably be out again Sunday. It's great to have reliable boats. Harry, Harry, Harry... If you've been following along, you'll know I spent the day on the water yesterday! I very seldom go out two days in a row - too many other commitments. We did catch a mess of perch yesterday, but not nearly as nice as the fish you caught today! Gosh, all the way from Solomons to Deale for lunch. Wow! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
He trailered his Lobster Boat up to Deale.
"John H" wrote in message ... On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:05:02 -0400, HarryKrause wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:05:31 -0400, "Newsgroup Reader" wrote: JohnH, It is funny that Kevin thinks someone showing Clams an ID showing that the person with the ID is not Kevin Noble is proof that Basskisser is not Kevin Noble. Basskisser has been sending me email asking me to meet up with Clams and show him my ID. ; ) "John H" wrote in message m... On 24 Jun 2005 12:08:06 -0700, wrote: A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember this day. I'm not Kevin, and if I'm an idiot, it certainly makes you much, much worse. Now, you've chastised me here for insulting people. But, I never, ever said that I would refrain from such. YOU DID. I guess it was just another of your hundreds of lies here, huh? Now, as long as you keep calling me Kevin, I'll ask: will you be man enough to apologize when I prove I'm not Kevin? Now, before you show your stupidity, I've been emailing Clams. We're going to try to meet up in a couple of weeks. Well, are you at least man enough to answer? Nah....I doubt it. How many emails will it take to get Clams to say you're not Kevin? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." The solution is simple: Kevin should ask Harry to take him for a ride on the 36' Lobsta boat. Then Harry could check Kevin's birth certificate, driver's license, college diplomas (all of them), and any mug shots that may exist. Then Kevin could voutch for Harry's boat, and Harry could voutch for Kevin's lack of authenticity. We had a great day boating today, Herring, but we didn't see you out on the water. We even popped into Deale for lunch. Beautiful weather, too. Will probably be out again Sunday. It's great to have reliable boats. Harry, Harry, Harry... If you've been following along, you'll know I spent the day on the water yesterday! I very seldom go out two days in a row - too many other commitments. We did catch a mess of perch yesterday, but not nearly as nice as the fish you caught today! Gosh, all the way from Solomons to Deale for lunch. Wow! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"P. Fritz" wrote in message
... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? |
Jun 24, 7:57 am show options
Newsgroups: rec.boats From: - Find messages by this author Date: 24 Jun 2005 04:57:44 -0700 Local: Fri,Jun 24 2005 7:57 am Subject: Oil reaches record $60 a barrel Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... That's: Bad for Bush Bad for the US Bad for boating. :-( I agree. And what exactly did Bush have to do with this? Here you go Jim: Don't Blame OPEC; Higher Gas Prices Are Almost Entirely Bush's Fault Dave Lindorff, ILCA Associate Member What is making oil so expensive is not energy policy or even SUV's, dangerous as those are for the environment. It's Bush's massive deficits and his willful destruction of the US dollar that has gas selling at $2.30 a gallon and rising. There's been a lot of hand-wringing going on among economists and politicians, and a lot of fuming at the gas pump by consumers over the soaring price of oil over the last two years. Increasingly, concern is being expressed by treasury officials and economists about the negative impact soaring oil prices and related gas prices could have on the overall economy. Politicians--especially Republicans--are also fretting, since the thousands of extra dollars consumers are now spending on electricity, home heating and gasoline have, for all but the wealthiest taxpayers, more than cancelled out any minimal benefits they saw from the president's tax cuts. What's wrong with this picture? The focus of all this anger and angst is oil prices. As a result, everyone is looking at culprits in the wrong place, blaming wasteful energy use, OPEC production quotas, monopolistic oil companies and/or conniving oil traders. In fact the real culprit behind these higher oil prices is the Bush Administration, which, thanks to its massive deficits and tax give-aways to the rich and corporations, to its war spending, and to its failure to combat unprecedented and ever-larger trade deficits, has been causing the dollar to plunge in value. Oil is a commodity and it is priced in dollars. If dollars decline in value, then the price of oil will rise in inverse proportion. Man, this gets old. did you ever consider supply and demand? or would that get in your way. Like T. Boone Pickens (oil tycoon) said: : When you need 36 mil. Barrel of crude to run a country, and can only get 34 Mil barrel, what does that do to pricing? I know, I know. That doesn't fit any kind of political logic. because it is one of a few circumstances of reasoning. I know, know...it's so much easier (and to some its much more fun) to bash Bush........ that little meanie.....LOL |
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:01:14 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? There is not one example in the history of rec.boats that would demonstrate that Fritz is sentient. Before I dumped him into the bin, I noted that 99.9% of his posts consisted of him calling Basskisser names. I doubt the percentages have changed since. Who is Basskisser? Thought his name was Kevin or atl_man2(sp?). Your *bin*? Hee, hee! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Tim" wrote in message ups.com... Jun 24, 7:57 am show options Newsgroups: rec.boats From: - Find messages by this author Date: 24 Jun 2005 04:57:44 -0700 Local: Fri,Jun 24 2005 7:57 am Subject: Oil reaches record $60 a barrel Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... That's: Bad for Bush Bad for the US Bad for boating. :-( I agree. And what exactly did Bush have to do with this? Here you go Jim: Don't Blame OPEC; Higher Gas Prices Are Almost Entirely Bush's Fault Dave Lindorff, ILCA Associate Member What is making oil so expensive is not energy policy or even SUV's, dangerous as those are for the environment. It's Bush's massive deficits and his willful destruction of the US dollar that has gas selling at $2.30 a gallon and rising. There's been a lot of hand-wringing going on among economists and politicians, and a lot of fuming at the gas pump by consumers over the soaring price of oil over the last two years. Increasingly, concern is being expressed by treasury officials and economists about the negative impact soaring oil prices and related gas prices could have on the overall economy. Politicians--especially Republicans--are also fretting, since the thousands of extra dollars consumers are now spending on electricity, home heating and gasoline have, for all but the wealthiest taxpayers, more than cancelled out any minimal benefits they saw from the president's tax cuts. What's wrong with this picture? The focus of all this anger and angst is oil prices. As a result, everyone is looking at culprits in the wrong place, blaming wasteful energy use, OPEC production quotas, monopolistic oil companies and/or conniving oil traders. In fact the real culprit behind these higher oil prices is the Bush Administration, which, thanks to its massive deficits and tax give-aways to the rich and corporations, to its war spending, and to its failure to combat unprecedented and ever-larger trade deficits, has been causing the dollar to plunge in value. Oil is a commodity and it is priced in dollars. If dollars decline in value, then the price of oil will rise in inverse proportion. Man, this gets old. did you ever consider supply and demand? or would that get in your way. Like T. Boone Pickens (oil tycoon) said: : When you need 36 mil. Barrel of crude to run a country, and can only get 34 Mil barrel, what does that do to pricing? I know, I know. That doesn't fit any kind of political logic. because it is one of a few circumstances of reasoning. I know, know...it's so much easier (and to some its much more fun) to bash Bush........ that little meanie.....LOL And if it is the declining value of the dollar.....why have gas prices risen when the dollar has gained in the last view weeks.........damn facts always get in the way of the liebrals. |
"P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ups.com... Jun 24, 7:57 am show options Newsgroups: rec.boats From: - Find messages by this author Date: 24 Jun 2005 04:57:44 -0700 Local: Fri,Jun 24 2005 7:57 am Subject: Oil reaches record $60 a barrel Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... That's: Bad for Bush Bad for the US Bad for boating. :-( I agree. And what exactly did Bush have to do with this? Here you go Jim: Don't Blame OPEC; Higher Gas Prices Are Almost Entirely Bush's Fault Dave Lindorff, ILCA Associate Member What is making oil so expensive is not energy policy or even SUV's, dangerous as those are for the environment. It's Bush's massive deficits and his willful destruction of the US dollar that has gas selling at $2.30 a gallon and rising. There's been a lot of hand-wringing going on among economists and politicians, and a lot of fuming at the gas pump by consumers over the soaring price of oil over the last two years. Increasingly, concern is being expressed by treasury officials and economists about the negative impact soaring oil prices and related gas prices could have on the overall economy. Politicians--especially Republicans--are also fretting, since the thousands of extra dollars consumers are now spending on electricity, home heating and gasoline have, for all but the wealthiest taxpayers, more than cancelled out any minimal benefits they saw from the president's tax cuts. What's wrong with this picture? The focus of all this anger and angst is oil prices. As a result, everyone is looking at culprits in the wrong place, blaming wasteful energy use, OPEC production quotas, monopolistic oil companies and/or conniving oil traders. In fact the real culprit behind these higher oil prices is the Bush Administration, which, thanks to its massive deficits and tax give-aways to the rich and corporations, to its war spending, and to its failure to combat unprecedented and ever-larger trade deficits, has been causing the dollar to plunge in value. Oil is a commodity and it is priced in dollars. If dollars decline in value, then the price of oil will rise in inverse proportion. Man, this gets old. did you ever consider supply and demand? or would that get in your way. Like T. Boone Pickens (oil tycoon) said: : When you need 36 mil. Barrel of crude to run a country, and can only get 34 Mil barrel, what does that do to pricing? I know, I know. That doesn't fit any kind of political logic. because it is one of a few circumstances of reasoning. I know, know...it's so much easier (and to some its much more fun) to bash Bush........ that little meanie.....LOL And if it is the declining value of the dollar.....why have gas prices risen when the dollar has gained in the last view weeks.........damn facts always get in the way of the liebrals. Sheesh. I haven't been following this thread, but is someone stupid enough to suggest that a weak dollar is responsible for high oil prices...rather than increased demand (from countries like China), and instability in the oil producing countries? |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:01:14 -0400, HarryKrause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? There is not one example in the history of rec.boats that would demonstrate that Fritz is sentient. Before I dumped him into the bin, I noted that 99.9% of his posts consisted of him calling Basskisser names. I doubt the percentages have changed since. Who is Basskisser? Thought his name was Kevin or atl_man2(sp?). Your *bin*? Hee, hee! Poor harry, I refuse to play his game, and point out his lies.......he's deluded himself into thinking that being put in his mythical 'bin' somehow hurts LMAO -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"NOYB" wrote in message ... "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ups.com... Jun 24, 7:57 am show options Newsgroups: rec.boats From: - Find messages by this author Date: 24 Jun 2005 04:57:44 -0700 Local: Fri,Jun 24 2005 7:57 am Subject: Oil reaches record $60 a barrel Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... That's: Bad for Bush Bad for the US Bad for boating. :-( I agree. And what exactly did Bush have to do with this? Here you go Jim: Don't Blame OPEC; Higher Gas Prices Are Almost Entirely Bush's Fault Dave Lindorff, ILCA Associate Member What is making oil so expensive is not energy policy or even SUV's, dangerous as those are for the environment. It's Bush's massive deficits and his willful destruction of the US dollar that has gas selling at $2.30 a gallon and rising. There's been a lot of hand-wringing going on among economists and politicians, and a lot of fuming at the gas pump by consumers over the soaring price of oil over the last two years. Increasingly, concern is being expressed by treasury officials and economists about the negative impact soaring oil prices and related gas prices could have on the overall economy. Politicians--especially Republicans--are also fretting, since the thousands of extra dollars consumers are now spending on electricity, home heating and gasoline have, for all but the wealthiest taxpayers, more than cancelled out any minimal benefits they saw from the president's tax cuts. What's wrong with this picture? The focus of all this anger and angst is oil prices. As a result, everyone is looking at culprits in the wrong place, blaming wasteful energy use, OPEC production quotas, monopolistic oil companies and/or conniving oil traders. In fact the real culprit behind these higher oil prices is the Bush Administration, which, thanks to its massive deficits and tax give-aways to the rich and corporations, to its war spending, and to its failure to combat unprecedented and ever-larger trade deficits, has been causing the dollar to plunge in value. Oil is a commodity and it is priced in dollars. If dollars decline in value, then the price of oil will rise in inverse proportion. Man, this gets old. did you ever consider supply and demand? or would that get in your way. Like T. Boone Pickens (oil tycoon) said: : When you need 36 mil. Barrel of crude to run a country, and can only get 34 Mil barrel, what does that do to pricing? I know, I know. That doesn't fit any kind of political logic. because it is one of a few circumstances of reasoning. I know, know...it's so much easier (and to some its much more fun) to bash Bush........ that little meanie.....LOL And if it is the declining value of the dollar.....why have gas prices risen when the dollar has gained in the last view weeks.........damn facts always get in the way of the liebrals. Sheesh. I haven't been following this thread, but is someone stupid enough to suggest that a weak dollar is responsible for high oil prices...rather than increased demand (from countries like China), and instability in the oil producing countries? Yep.......kevin places the blame on the "massive" bush tax cuts. LMAO The fact of the matter is that while supply has remained relatively even, while the demand has increased rapidly. On top of that, there have been no additional refineries built in the US, which further strains supply on the consumer end......especially when the EPA demands countless formulas across the country, further reducing the economies of scale in refining. |
"*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... Tim wrote: His huge deficit, while still spending like a drunken sailor has devalued the dollar. You mean, like the democrat hero FDR did during the great depression? No, the ignorant will goose step to the party no matter what happens. The educated know better. Man. are you hardcore, or what? "Goos stepping??? LOFL!! That would be GOOSE stepping!!! LOFL!!! Making fun of a spelling error Kevin? Is this the standard we should hold you to? I have read your 20 or so contributions you posted here this morning and most involved putting people down, name calling and generally fighting with folks. You also started an OT thread and used the words "republican pigs" in the title. Why the inflammatory words and what did that post have to do with boating (claims you made against others this week)? Live by the standards *you* set Kevin and perhaps folks here will start to respect you. It is pretty funny seeing our "King of the NG idiots" toss a spell flame when he has yet to master the difference between 'your' and 'you're' ..........even when posting through his sock puppet "walter" And then there was 'slander' and 'libel' that he took the bitch slapping over.............. LMAO |
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 09:50:19 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:
"P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ups.com... Jun 24, 7:57 am show options Newsgroups: rec.boats From: - Find messages by this author Date: 24 Jun 2005 04:57:44 -0700 Local: Fri,Jun 24 2005 7:57 am Subject: Oil reaches record $60 a barrel Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... That's: Bad for Bush Bad for the US Bad for boating. :-( I agree. And what exactly did Bush have to do with this? Here you go Jim: Don't Blame OPEC; Higher Gas Prices Are Almost Entirely Bush's Fault Dave Lindorff, ILCA Associate Member What is making oil so expensive is not energy policy or even SUV's, dangerous as those are for the environment. It's Bush's massive deficits and his willful destruction of the US dollar that has gas selling at $2.30 a gallon and rising. There's been a lot of hand-wringing going on among economists and politicians, and a lot of fuming at the gas pump by consumers over the soaring price of oil over the last two years. Increasingly, concern is being expressed by treasury officials and economists about the negative impact soaring oil prices and related gas prices could have on the overall economy. Politicians--especially Republicans--are also fretting, since the thousands of extra dollars consumers are now spending on electricity, home heating and gasoline have, for all but the wealthiest taxpayers, more than cancelled out any minimal benefits they saw from the president's tax cuts. What's wrong with this picture? The focus of all this anger and angst is oil prices. As a result, everyone is looking at culprits in the wrong place, blaming wasteful energy use, OPEC production quotas, monopolistic oil companies and/or conniving oil traders. In fact the real culprit behind these higher oil prices is the Bush Administration, which, thanks to its massive deficits and tax give-aways to the rich and corporations, to its war spending, and to its failure to combat unprecedented and ever-larger trade deficits, has been causing the dollar to plunge in value. Oil is a commodity and it is priced in dollars. If dollars decline in value, then the price of oil will rise in inverse proportion. Man, this gets old. did you ever consider supply and demand? or would that get in your way. Like T. Boone Pickens (oil tycoon) said: : When you need 36 mil. Barrel of crude to run a country, and can only get 34 Mil barrel, what does that do to pricing? I know, I know. That doesn't fit any kind of political logic. because it is one of a few circumstances of reasoning. I know, know...it's so much easier (and to some its much more fun) to bash Bush........ that little meanie.....LOL And if it is the declining value of the dollar.....why have gas prices risen when the dollar has gained in the last view weeks.........damn facts always get in the way of the liebrals. Sheesh. I haven't been following this thread, but is someone stupid enough to suggest that a weak dollar is responsible for high oil prices...rather than increased demand (from countries like China), and instability in the oil producing countries? Harry found a cut'n'paste in which he firmly believes (else he wouldn't post it, right?). Forget demand, forget supply, it's all due to the Bush budget deficit. Hee, hee! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:04:32 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:
NOYB wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message groups.com... Jun 24, 7:57 am show options Newsgroups: rec.boats From: - Find messages by this author Date: 24 Jun 2005 04:57:44 -0700 Local: Fri,Jun 24 2005 7:57 am Subject: Oil reaches record $60 a barrel Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... That's: Bad for Bush Bad for the US Bad for boating. :-( I agree. And what exactly did Bush have to do with this? Here you go Jim: Don't Blame OPEC; Higher Gas Prices Are Almost Entirely Bush's Fault Dave Lindorff, ILCA Associate Member What is making oil so expensive is not energy policy or even SUV's, dangerous as those are for the environment. It's Bush's massive deficits and his willful destruction of the US dollar that has gas selling at $2.30 a gallon and rising. There's been a lot of hand-wringing going on among economists and politicians, and a lot of fuming at the gas pump by consumers over the soaring price of oil over the last two years. Increasingly, concern is being expressed by treasury officials and economists about the negative impact soaring oil prices and related gas prices could have on the overall economy. Politicians--especially Republicans--are also fretting, since the thousands of extra dollars consumers are now spending on electricity, home heating and gasoline have, for all but the wealthiest taxpayers, more than cancelled out any minimal benefits they saw from the president's tax cuts. What's wrong with this picture? The focus of all this anger and angst is oil prices. As a result, everyone is looking at culprits in the wrong place, blaming wasteful energy use, OPEC production quotas, monopolistic oil companies and/or conniving oil traders. In fact the real culprit behind these higher oil prices is the Bush Administration, which, thanks to its massive deficits and tax give-aways to the rich and corporations, to its war spending, and to its failure to combat unprecedented and ever-larger trade deficits, has been causing the dollar to plunge in value. Oil is a commodity and it is priced in dollars. If dollars decline in value, then the price of oil will rise in inverse proportion. Man, this gets old. did you ever consider supply and demand? or would that get in your way. Like T. Boone Pickens (oil tycoon) said: : When you need 36 mil. Barrel of crude to run a country, and can only get 34 Mil barrel, what does that do to pricing? I know, I know. That doesn't fit any kind of political logic. because it is one of a few circumstances of reasoning. I know, know...it's so much easier (and to some its much more fun) to bash Bush........ that little meanie.....LOL And if it is the declining value of the dollar.....why have gas prices risen when the dollar has gained in the last view weeks.........damn facts always get in the way of the liebrals. Sheesh. I haven't been following this thread, but is someone stupid enough to suggest that a weak dollar is responsible for high oil prices...rather than increased demand (from countries like China), and instability in the oil producing countries? In the Middle East and in South America, a lot of that "unrest" can be traced directly to President Idiot, er, Bush. His budget, right? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:07:20 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:
John H wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:05:02 -0400, HarryKrause wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:05:31 -0400, "Newsgroup Reader" wrote: JohnH, It is funny that Kevin thinks someone showing Clams an ID showing that the person with the ID is not Kevin Noble is proof that Basskisser is not Kevin Noble. Basskisser has been sending me email asking me to meet up with Clams and show him my ID. ; ) "John H" wrote in message om... On 24 Jun 2005 12:08:06 -0700, wrote: A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember this day. I'm not Kevin, and if I'm an idiot, it certainly makes you much, much worse. Now, you've chastised me here for insulting people. But, I never, ever said that I would refrain from such. YOU DID. I guess it was just another of your hundreds of lies here, huh? Now, as long as you keep calling me Kevin, I'll ask: will you be man enough to apologize when I prove I'm not Kevin? Now, before you show your stupidity, I've been emailing Clams. We're going to try to meet up in a couple of weeks. Well, are you at least man enough to answer? Nah....I doubt it. How many emails will it take to get Clams to say you're not Kevin? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." The solution is simple: Kevin should ask Harry to take him for a ride on the 36' Lobsta boat. Then Harry could check Kevin's birth certificate, driver's license, college diplomas (all of them), and any mug shots that may exist. Then Kevin could voutch for Harry's boat, and Harry could voutch for Kevin's lack of authenticity. We had a great day boating today, Herring, but we didn't see you out on the water. We even popped into Deale for lunch. Beautiful weather, too. Will probably be out again Sunday. It's great to have reliable boats. Harry, Harry, Harry... If you've been following along, you'll know I spent the day on the water yesterday! I very seldom go out two days in a row - too many other commitments. We did catch a mess of perch yesterday, but not nearly as nice as the fish you caught today! Gosh, all the way from Solomons to Deale for lunch. Wow! You need to work on your habit of jumping to conclusions. Never said a word about fishing or about a starting off point. Is it true that leaving a boat on a trailer will improve it's reliability? I've also heard that a mythical boat has 100% reliability. Is that true? Was the Deale water taxi in operation Saturday? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly increased, but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most likely the goods would be more expensive. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly increased, but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most likely the goods would be more expensive. And it still doesn't have anything to do with the "evil' bush tax cuts. Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and demand..... I still believe that liebrals cannot grasp the simple supply/demand economics because of their static thinking. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"P. Fritz" wrote in message
... And if it is the declining value of the dollar.....why have gas prices risen when the dollar has gained in the last view weeks.........damn facts always get in the way of the liebrals. This was already explained in an earlier message. When you create an unstable environment relative to ANY investment, the price increases. Respond to this idea, or stop asking. |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? There is not one example in the history of rec.boats that would demonstrate that Fritz is sentient. Before I dumped him into the bin, I noted that 99.9% of his posts consisted of him calling Basskisser names. I doubt the percentages have changed since. Harry, do me a favor. Stop helping me. |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly increased, but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most likely the goods would be more expensive. -- John H Let's assume that it's something people normally want ALL the time, John. Coffee, shoes, whatever. Don't hand me junior high school economic theories. |
"P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly increased, but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most likely the goods would be more expensive. And it still doesn't have anything to do with the "evil' bush tax cuts. Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and demand..... I still believe that liebrals cannot grasp the simple supply/demand economics because of their static thinking. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." "It is all Bush's fault. Bush is evil. Cheney is evil. Bush's cabinet members are evil. The conservative Supreme Court Justices are evil. Republican members of congress are evil." That sort of sums up their position on anything. ;-) |
"*JimH*" wrote in message ... "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly increased, but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most likely the goods would be more expensive. And it still doesn't have anything to do with the "evil' bush tax cuts. Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and demand..... I still believe that liebrals cannot grasp the simple supply/demand economics because of their static thinking. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." "It is all Bush's fault. Bush is evil. Cheney is evil. Bush's cabinet members are evil. The conservative Supreme Court Justices are evil. Republican members of congress are evil." That sort of sums up their position on anything. ;-) Yeah,,,,,well I will be doing my share of increasing demand.......will be heading down your way for the Fourth......leaving Thursday for PIB..........about 130-140 gallons for the RT....... |
"P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "*JimH*" wrote in message ... "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly increased, but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most likely the goods would be more expensive. And it still doesn't have anything to do with the "evil' bush tax cuts. Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and demand..... I still believe that liebrals cannot grasp the simple supply/demand economics because of their static thinking. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." "It is all Bush's fault. Bush is evil. Cheney is evil. Bush's cabinet members are evil. The conservative Supreme Court Justices are evil. Republican members of congress are evil." That sort of sums up their position on anything. ;-) Yeah,,,,,well I will be doing my share of increasing demand.......will be heading down your way for the Fourth......leaving Thursday for PIB..........about 130-140 gallons for the RT....... That is one of the busiest times there. What marina did you get reservations at or are you going to try to grab a mooring buoy? I will keep my fingers crossed for you that you have good weather and calm seas. |
"P. Fritz" wrote in message
... Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and demand..... A black market is just one example of an adjustment made in response to an unstable environment. War is another example of an unstable environment, and both have an effect on prices. Ask anyone who was an adult during the 2nd world war. |
"*JimH*" wrote in message ... "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "*JimH*" wrote in message ... "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly increased, but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most likely the goods would be more expensive. And it still doesn't have anything to do with the "evil' bush tax cuts. Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and demand..... I still believe that liebrals cannot grasp the simple supply/demand economics because of their static thinking. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." "It is all Bush's fault. Bush is evil. Cheney is evil. Bush's cabinet members are evil. The conservative Supreme Court Justices are evil. Republican members of congress are evil." That sort of sums up their position on anything. ;-) Yeah,,,,,well I will be doing my share of increasing demand.......will be heading down your way for the Fourth......leaving Thursday for PIB..........about 130-140 gallons for the RT....... That is one of the busiest times there. What marina did you get reservations at or are you going to try to grab a mooring buoy? I will keep my fingers crossed for you that you have good weather and calm seas. I go to the public docks......getting there on Thursday evening, I've never had a problem. I just hope for no wind from the east when I hit Erie............THAT makes for a real nasty ride. |
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:14:17 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:
John H wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:07:20 -0400, HarryKrause wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:05:02 -0400, HarryKrause wrote: John H wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:05:31 -0400, "Newsgroup Reader" wrote: JohnH, It is funny that Kevin thinks someone showing Clams an ID showing that the person with the ID is not Kevin Noble is proof that Basskisser is not Kevin Noble. Basskisser has been sending me email asking me to meet up with Clams and show him my ID. ; ) "John H" wrote in message news:mepob1lbd7cfalrnhhd4k0ki3gqda1bsi4@4ax .com... On 24 Jun 2005 12:08:06 -0700, wrote: A tongue lashing from Kevin the village idiot. I will always remember this day. I'm not Kevin, and if I'm an idiot, it certainly makes you much, much worse. Now, you've chastised me here for insulting people. But, I never, ever said that I would refrain from such. YOU DID. I guess it was just another of your hundreds of lies here, huh? Now, as long as you keep calling me Kevin, I'll ask: will you be man enough to apologize when I prove I'm not Kevin? Now, before you show your stupidity, I've been emailing Clams. We're going to try to meet up in a couple of weeks. Well, are you at least man enough to answer? Nah....I doubt it. How many emails will it take to get Clams to say you're not Kevin? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." The solution is simple: Kevin should ask Harry to take him for a ride on the 36' Lobsta boat. Then Harry could check Kevin's birth certificate, driver's license, college diplomas (all of them), and any mug shots that may exist. Then Kevin could voutch for Harry's boat, and Harry could voutch for Kevin's lack of authenticity. We had a great day boating today, Herring, but we didn't see you out on the water. We even popped into Deale for lunch. Beautiful weather, too. Will probably be out again Sunday. It's great to have reliable boats. Harry, Harry, Harry... If you've been following along, you'll know I spent the day on the water yesterday! I very seldom go out two days in a row - too many other commitments. We did catch a mess of perch yesterday, but not nearly as nice as the fish you caught today! Gosh, all the way from Solomons to Deale for lunch. Wow! You need to work on your habit of jumping to conclusions. Never said a word about fishing or about a starting off point. Is it true that leaving a boat on a trailer will improve it's reliability? I've also heard that a mythical boat has 100% reliability. Is that true? A properly trailered and stored boat will suffer fewer breakdowns and less wear and tear than an identical boat kept at a marina. Was the Deale water taxi in operation Saturday? I didn't notice. Especially if it's left on the trailer! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:58:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and demand..... A black market is just one example of an adjustment made in response to an unstable environment. War is another example of an unstable environment, and both have an effect on prices. Ask anyone who was an adult during the 2nd world war. In what way did they affect prices? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:19:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly increased, but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most likely the goods would be more expensive. -- John H Let's assume that it's something people normally want ALL the time, John. Coffee, shoes, whatever. Don't hand me junior high school economic theories. Well, if we assume the demand hasn't changed, and the supply has diminished, then prices will go up. In the case of oil, the demand has greatly increased over the past several years (almost as bad as outsourcing!). The junior high economic theories are, at least, rational. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:58:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and demand..... A black market is just one example of an adjustment made in response to an unstable environment. War is another example of an unstable environment, and both have an effect on prices. Ask anyone who was an adult during the 2nd world war. In what way did they affect prices? Once again........he fails to get it.....it has nothing to do with "unstability" it has everything to do with supply and demand. A black market is basic economic reaction to a guvmint restricting supply.........the price on the "black market" is simply a reflection of the ability of suppliers to meet the demand.......based on the risk involved. War creates a higher demand, and often has a reduced supply because of damage to production facilities. The current Iraq conflict is not the reason demand has escalated, nor has there been a major disruption in supply. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:19:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:08:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Yeah......the evil bush tax cuts caused oil prices to rise.....LMAO If this country became a war zone like Iraq, and a black market developed for certain goods, do you think those things would be MORE expensive, or LESS expensive than before the war? That would depend on the demand and the supply. If the demand greatly increased, but the supply remained decreased or remained constant, then most likely the goods would be more expensive. -- John H Let's assume that it's something people normally want ALL the time, John. Coffee, shoes, whatever. Don't hand me junior high school economic theories. Well, if we assume the demand hasn't changed, and the supply has diminished, then prices will go up. In the case of oil, the demand has greatly increased over the past several years (almost as bad as outsourcing!). The junior high economic theories are, at least, rational. -- Unlike static liebral thinking John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:58:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... Black markets tend to develop when guvmints interfer with supply and demand..... A black market is just one example of an adjustment made in response to an unstable environment. War is another example of an unstable environment, and both have an effect on prices. Ask anyone who was an adult during the 2nd world war. In what way did they affect prices? Simple version: In response to shortages, the prices of such things as raw metal products and coffee increased. Now, the price of oil is increasing due to PERCEIVED stressors on the market. I say "perceived" because there is NO supply shortage, and the mythical demand you like to talk about is not enough to explain the drastic price increases over the past couple of years. |
"P. Fritz" wrote in message
... Once again........he fails to get it.....it has nothing to do with "unstability" it has everything to do with supply and demand. A black market is basic economic reaction to a guvmint restricting supply.........the price on the "black market" is simply a reflection of the ability of suppliers to meet the demand.......based on the risk involved. The government is not restricting the oil supply at the moment, and neither are the Saudis. There is no black market for oil in THIS country. War creates a higher demand, and often has a reduced supply because of damage to production facilities. "Demand" means the desire of consumers to use more of a product. Other than the presence of lots of fuel guzzling military vehicles, please explain WHERE you believe the excess demand is coming from, and why. The current Iraq conflict is not the reason demand has escalated, nor has there been a major disruption in supply. Again, specifically WHERE do you see increased demand? Name countries and finished oil products in your explanation. |
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