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I am in the market for a 2005 Suzuki DF140 with a 25" shaft. The boat
I have is a one off custom that is based on a Olympic Boat Company
Evolution 17 hull. The max horsepower for a production version of this
boat is 140hp and I want the maximum power possible. I'll have the boat
at Lake Tahoe now and then and I don't want it to be grossly
underpowered at 6200'.

I live in California, so a four-stroke is the only way to go as I plan
to use the boat for many years. California is becoming very restrictive
in what type of motor can be use on fresh water.

How good are the DF140s? I can't seem to find much negative feedback
about them.

I have been quoted US$9300.00 for a 25" DF140 for the motor only.
Rigging, controls, Tachometer, and Prop are not included in this price.

You can do better on the price, but the Suzuki four-strokes are perhaps the
best motors on the market right now.

My brother has a 140 with 200 hours, and I have a 250 with 210 hours.
Neither of us has had even a small problem with our motors.

Gene Kearns has a pair of them on his Grady. I'm pretty sure he hasn't had
any trouble with his either.

Thanks for the info on reliability.

The problem with Suzuki motors and pricing is that there is one dealer
in my area.

Many people advise paying a higher price to a local dealer so as to
establish a good working relationship for warranty issues, etc. Buying
from a remote dealer may get a better price. It can come back to bite
you if you need warranty service.

I live near San Luis Obispo. The nearest dealer is Port San Luis
Marine. They are 1/2 hour from my house. The next closest are in
Fresno, Clovis, Oxnard, and Santa Cruz. All of which are 2-3 1/2 hours
away.

This part of the world is vacationland, so everything costs more than
the urban areas. For a good laugh look up the cost of real estate in
San Luis Obispo county, then the major employers. We pay higher prices
pretty much everything except the local produce at the farmer's
markets. Outboard motors are no different, it seems.



You can do better on the price, but the Suzuki four-strokes are perhaps the
best motors on the market right now.

My brother has a 140 with 200 hours, and I have a 250 with 210 hours.
Neither of us has had even a small problem with our motors.

Gene Kearns has a pair of them on his Grady. I'm pretty sure he hasn't had
any trouble with his either.

On 20 Jun 2005 15:17:59 -0700, "
wrote:

Thanks for the info on reliability.

The problem with Suzuki motors and pricing is that there is one dealer
in my area.

Many people advise paying a higher price to a local dealer so as to
establish a good working relationship for warranty issues, etc. Buying
from a remote dealer may get a better price. It can come back to bite
you if you need warranty service.

I live near San Luis Obispo. The nearest dealer is Port San Luis
Marine. They are 1/2 hour from my house. The next closest are in
Fresno, Clovis, Oxnard, and Santa Cruz. All of which are 2-3 1/2 hours
away.

This part of the world is vacationland, so everything costs more than
the urban areas. For a good laugh look up the cost of real estate in
San Luis Obispo county, then the major employers. We pay higher prices
pretty much everything except the local produce at the farmer's
markets. Outboard motors are no different, it seems.

Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
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On 20 Jun 2005 15:17:59 -0700, "
wrote:

Thanks for the info on reliability.

The problem with Suzuki motors and pricing is that there is one dealer
in my area.

Many people advise paying a higher price to a local dealer so as to
establish a good working relationship for warranty issues, etc. Buying
from a remote dealer may get a better price. It can come back to bite
you if you need warranty service.

I live near San Luis Obispo. The nearest dealer is Port San Luis
Marine. They are 1/2 hour from my house. The next closest are in
Fresno, Clovis, Oxnard, and Santa Cruz. All of which are 2-3 1/2 hours
away.

This part of the world is vacationland, so everything costs more than
the urban areas. For a good laugh look up the cost of real estate in
San Luis Obispo county, then the major employers. We pay higher prices
pretty much everything except the local produce at the farmer's
markets. Outboard motors are no different, it seems.

Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Jolon, now that was bad.

"Del Cecchi" wrote in message
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On 20 Jun 2005 15:17:59 -0700, "
wrote:

Thanks for the info on reliability.

The problem with Suzuki motors and pricing is that there is one dealer
in my area.

Many people advise paying a higher price to a local dealer so as to
establish a good working relationship for warranty issues, etc. Buying
from a remote dealer may get a better price. It can come back to bite
you if you need warranty service.

I live near San Luis Obispo. The nearest dealer is Port San Luis
Marine. They are 1/2 hour from my house. The next closest are in
Fresno, Clovis, Oxnard, and Santa Cruz. All of which are 2-3 1/2 hours
away.

This part of the world is vacationland, so everything costs more than
the urban areas. For a good laugh look up the cost of real estate in
San Luis Obispo county, then the major employers. We pay higher prices
pretty much everything except the local produce at the farmer's
markets. Outboard motors are no different, it seems.

Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Jolon, now that was bad.


But the bar had good Mexican Pizza.

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On 20 Jun 2005 15:17:59 -0700, "
wrote:

Thanks for the info on reliability.

The problem with Suzuki motors and pricing is that there is one
dealer
in my area.

Many people advise paying a higher price to a local dealer so as to
establish a good working relationship for warranty issues, etc.
Buying
from a remote dealer may get a better price. It can come back to bite
you if you need warranty service.

I live near San Luis Obispo. The nearest dealer is Port San Luis
Marine. They are 1/2 hour from my house. The next closest are in
Fresno, Clovis, Oxnard, and Santa Cruz. All of which are 2-3 1/2
hours
away.

This part of the world is vacationland, so everything costs more than
the urban areas. For a good laugh look up the cost of real estate in
San Luis Obispo county, then the major employers. We pay higher
prices
pretty much everything except the local produce at the farmer's
markets. Outboard motors are no different, it seems.

Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Jolon, now that was bad.


But the bar had good Mexican Pizza.
Never saw a bar in Jolon when I was around there, in the 71-73 time
frame. Guys were volunteering for Nam to get out of Jolon. :-)

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On 20 Jun 2005 15:17:59 -0700, "
wrote:

Thanks for the info on reliability.

The problem with Suzuki motors and pricing is that there is one dealer
in my area.

Many people advise paying a higher price to a local dealer so as to
establish a good working relationship for warranty issues, etc. Buying
from a remote dealer may get a better price. It can come back to bite
you if you need warranty service.

I live near San Luis Obispo. The nearest dealer is Port San Luis
Marine. They are 1/2 hour from my house. The next closest are in
Fresno, Clovis, Oxnard, and Santa Cruz. All of which are 2-3 1/2 hours
away.

This part of the world is vacationland, so everything costs more than
the urban areas. For a good laugh look up the cost of real estate in
San Luis Obispo county, then the major employers. We pay higher prices
pretty much everything except the local produce at the farmer's
markets. Outboard motors are no different, it seems.

Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Jolon, now that was bad.


But the bar had good Mexican Pizza.
Never saw a bar in Jolon when I was around there, in the 71-73 time frame.
Guys were volunteering for Nam to get out of Jolon. :-)




Use to pig hunt at Hunter-Ligget during the 80's. Was a pizza parlor / bar
then just outside the gates. Last time I was there, was closed. My buddies
in the Army reserve use to do summer camp there in the 70's. They enjoyed
it, as they were engineers, and had a water treatment plant. They used the
dozer to make a swimming hole and a trench to hold the daily 500#'s of ice
and the beer.

When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On 20 Jun 2005 19:54:08 -0700, "
wrote:

When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I worked with engineer units as an advisor in the '76 to '78 time frame. Used to
spend a good part of the summer at Camp Roberts (or Hunter-Ligget). Actually, I
think Camp Roberts was across the road, but not sure of the relationship any
more. I would go with them on their summer camp and help with training planning
and conduct.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

You likely would not recognize much of the area with the development
that has taken place. Paso Robles still gets over 100 degrees in the
summer and into the low 30s in the winter. Some things haven't
changed...
The downtown are has been revitalized with a lot of tourist based
business, IE, upscale resturants and boutiques, etc. The earthquake in
2003 took out several of the old buildings, but rebuilding is
progressing nicely. They still haven't figured out how to plug the
smelly spring that started up in the parking lot of the city hall. They
have diverted the water down to the Salinas river, so the sulphur stink
has been removed from the downtown area, unless the wind is from the
east. If you drive through on 101 you would think that Paso Robles has
a bad sewer plant.

There are something like 70 wineries in the area now.

http://www.pasowine.com

has a bunch of info if you are interested.

Thanks again for the info on the DF140.



John H wrote:
On 20 Jun 2005 19:54:08 -0700, "
wrote:

When did you spend time in Paso Robles?

Paso has grown very quickly in the past ten years. The wine industry
has mostly taken over from ranching and dry farming. There has been
national press describing the Paso Robles area as the next Napa. (not
that that is a good thing) Paso is about to surpass SLO town as the
biggest city in the county.

I live in Mudhole, aka, Atascadero.

John H wrote:


Could be worse. You could live in Paso Robles. That would be bad!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I worked with engineer units as an advisor in the '76 to '78 time frame. Used to
spend a good part of the summer at Camp Roberts (or Hunter-Ligget). Actually, I
think Camp Roberts was across the road, but not sure of the relationship any
more. I would go with them on their summer camp and help with training planning
and conduct.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."