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![]() "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... wrote in message news ![]() I have never quoted from either of those sources in this newsgroup. And I don't need to verify.. If you want it believed, then source it http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...sar021231.html This story appears to be from December 31, 2002 yet gives nothing definitive in a Saddam - Al Al-Qaeda connection... Only speculation http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0402/p01s03-wome.html And this story clearly states "The Al Qaeda-Kurdish ties appear to have grown closer by the summer of 2000" If I remember correctly, Saddam was out to kill the Kurds..... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101635,00.html That information is the first solid evidence of links between remnants of Saddam's regime and the non-Iraqi fighters responsible for at least some of the attacks on US forces and their Iraqi allies, the official said. Funny thing with this story is they are talking of remenants of the former regime... Not talking about any connection prior to Saddam being removed. And the big one: The group operated in a small section of northern Iraq surrounded by Kurdish-controlled areas which were outside Saddam's control. Kurdish officials have long alleged that Saddam's government helped Ansar, but US officials have said they haven't yet found definitive proof of that. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5571 Bush administration and PUK officials have also speculated that Ansar may be working with Saddam through a man named Abu Wa'il, reportedly an al-Qaeda operative on Saddam's payroll. Speculation is a bad thing.... Facts, now those are good things. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/768rwsbj.asp This article removes the validation of any prior to it. One man that was suposed to be active with Ansar al Islam in Northern Iraq was actually killed in January 2000 in a battle with Lebanese forces.... Sorry but a dead man can't be active 1 year 9 months after his death... Ansar al Islam was started September 1, 2001 according to all other accounts. http://www.themercury.news.com.au/co...55E401,00.html That information is the first solid evidence of links between remnants of Saddam's regime and the non-Iraqi fighters responsible for at least some of the attacks on US forces and their Iraqi allies, the official said. Funny thing with this story is they are talking of remenants of the former regime... Not talking about any connection prior to Saddam being removed. And the big one: The group operated in a small section of northern Iraq surrounded by Kurdish-controlled areas which were outside Saddam's control. Kurdish officials have long alleged that Saddam's government helped Ansar, but US officials have said they haven't yet found definitive proof of that. By the way... It is the same article from the Fox News site http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...-attacks_x.htm I won't repeat it a 3rd time... This is the same story as the Fox News Site again Sorry but I don't get swayed by repetitive articles... My mind works better than that. |
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![]() wrote in message news ![]() "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... wrote in message news ![]() I have never quoted from either of those sources in this newsgroup. And I don't need to verify.. If you want it believed, then source it http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...sar021231.html This story appears to be from December 31, 2002 yet gives nothing definitive in a Saddam - Al Al-Qaeda connection... Only speculation It was speculation in 2002. By now, it's pretty much confirmed considering the recent actions of al Zarqawi. http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0402/p01s03-wome.html And this story clearly states "The Al Qaeda-Kurdish ties appear to have grown closer by the summer of 2000" If I remember correctly, Saddam was out to kill the Kurds..... Yes. So was the al Qaeda faction, Ansar-al-Islam. That gives them a common motive, no? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101635,00.html That information is the first solid evidence of links between remnants of Saddam's regime and the non-Iraqi fighters responsible for at least some of the attacks on US forces and their Iraqi allies, the official said. Funny thing with this story is they are talking of remenants of the former regime... Not talking about any connection prior to Saddam being removed. Miraculously, while we are looking for "remnants of the former regime", the al Qaeda terrorists manage to find them first and combine forces. I think it's more realistic that they simply reunited through already-established ties. And the big one: The group operated in a small section of northern Iraq surrounded by Kurdish-controlled areas which were outside Saddam's control. Kurdish officials have long alleged that Saddam's government helped Ansar, but US officials have said they haven't yet found definitive proof of that. "...haven't *YET* found definitive proof..." http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5571 Bush administration and PUK officials have also speculated that Ansar may be working with Saddam through a man named Abu Wa'il, reportedly an al-Qaeda operative on Saddam's payroll. Speculation is a bad thing.... Facts, now those are good things. Facts are found when you pursue speculative leads. Remember, most of these articles are anywhere from 6 months to almost 2 years old. The facts will be presented in due time. There's still a lot of time before the November election. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/768rwsbj.asp This article removes the validation of any prior to it. One man that was suposed to be active with Ansar al Islam in Northern Iraq was actually killed in January 2000 in a battle with Lebanese forces.... Sorry but a dead man can't be active 1 year 9 months after his death... Ansar al Islam was started September 1, 2001 according to all other accounts. No. The date you mention is when bin Laden sent additional al Qaeda terrorists from Afghanistan to northeastern Iraq...speculating that the fallout just 10 days later would make Afghanistan unsuitable for further al qaeda operations. The new terrorists simply linked up with groups that were already there. http://www.themercury.news.com.au/co...55E401,00.html That information is the first solid evidence of links between remnants of Saddam's regime and the non-Iraqi fighters responsible for at least some of the attacks on US forces and their Iraqi allies, the official said. Funny thing with this story is they are talking of remenants of the former regime... Not talking about any connection prior to Saddam being removed. And the big one: The group operated in a small section of northern Iraq surrounded by Kurdish-controlled areas which were outside Saddam's control. Kurdish officials have long alleged that Saddam's government helped Ansar, but US officials have said they haven't yet found definitive proof of that. By the way... It is the same article from the Fox News site http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...-attacks_x.htm I won't repeat it a 3rd time... This is the same story as the Fox News Site again Sorry but I don't get swayed by repetitive articles... My mind works better than that. The point of listing the same article from three independent sites is to show you that various mainstream media outlets have carried this story...yet I couldn't find a single mention of them in the NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, CNN, BBC, or al Jazeera. If you're getting your info solely from those sources, you're being spoon-fed liberal bull**** and spin. The al Qaeda-Saddam link will slowly grow into the most dominant news story flooding the airwaves this Summer and Fall. You're starting to see bits and pieces already...which is why I say that today's discovery of the sarin gas shell (and the discovery two weeks ago of the mustard gas shell) is just the tip of the iceberg. Just watch. Bush and Co. will continue to build the case that al qaeda and Saddam were working together prior to and after 9/11. |
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