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I have never quoted from either of those sources in this newsgroup.

And I don't need to verify.. If you want it believed, then source it


http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...sar021231.html

This story appears to be from December 31, 2002 yet gives nothing definitive
in a Saddam - Al Al-Qaeda connection... Only speculation


http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0402/p01s03-wome.html

And this story clearly states "The Al Qaeda-Kurdish ties appear to have
grown closer by the summer of 2000"

If I remember correctly, Saddam was out to kill the Kurds.....


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101635,00.html

That information is the first solid evidence of links between remnants of
Saddam's regime and the non-Iraqi fighters responsible for at least some of
the attacks on US forces and their Iraqi allies, the official said.

Funny thing with this story is they are talking of remenants of the former
regime... Not talking about any connection prior to Saddam being removed.

And the big one:
The group operated in a small section of northern Iraq surrounded by
Kurdish-controlled areas which were outside Saddam's control.

Kurdish officials have long alleged that Saddam's government helped Ansar,
but US officials have said they haven't yet found definitive proof of that.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5571

Bush administration and PUK officials have also speculated that Ansar may be
working with Saddam through a man named Abu Wa'il, reportedly an al-Qaeda
operative on Saddam's payroll.

Speculation is a bad thing.... Facts, now those are good things.




http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/768rwsbj.asp
This article removes the validation of any prior to it. One man that was
suposed to be active with Ansar al Islam in Northern Iraq was actually
killed in January 2000 in a battle with Lebanese forces.... Sorry but a dead
man can't be active 1 year 9 months after his death... Ansar al Islam was
started September 1, 2001 according to all other accounts.



http://www.themercury.news.com.au/co...55E401,00.html
That information is the first solid evidence of links between remnants of
Saddam's regime and the non-Iraqi fighters responsible for at least some of
the attacks on US forces and their Iraqi allies, the official said.

Funny thing with this story is they are talking of remenants of the former
regime... Not talking about any connection prior to Saddam being removed.

And the big one:
The group operated in a small section of northern Iraq surrounded by
Kurdish-controlled areas which were outside Saddam's control.

Kurdish officials have long alleged that Saddam's government helped Ansar,
but US officials have said they haven't yet found definitive proof of that.

By the way... It is the same article from the Fox News site


http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...-attacks_x.htm

I won't repeat it a 3rd time... This is the same story as the Fox News Site
again

Sorry but I don't get swayed by repetitive articles... My mind works better
than that.





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"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

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I have never quoted from either of those sources in this newsgroup.

And I don't need to verify.. If you want it believed, then source it


http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...sar021231.html

This story appears to be from December 31, 2002 yet gives nothing

definitive
in a Saddam - Al Al-Qaeda connection... Only speculation


It was speculation in 2002. By now, it's pretty much confirmed considering
the recent actions of al Zarqawi.




http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0402/p01s03-wome.html

And this story clearly states "The Al Qaeda-Kurdish ties appear to have
grown closer by the summer of 2000"

If I remember correctly, Saddam was out to kill the Kurds.....


Yes. So was the al Qaeda faction, Ansar-al-Islam. That gives them a common
motive, no?



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101635,00.html

That information is the first solid evidence of links between remnants of
Saddam's regime and the non-Iraqi fighters responsible for at least some

of
the attacks on US forces and their Iraqi allies, the official said.

Funny thing with this story is they are talking of remenants of the former
regime... Not talking about any connection prior to Saddam being removed.


Miraculously, while we are looking for "remnants of the former regime", the
al Qaeda terrorists manage to find them first and combine forces. I think
it's more realistic that they simply reunited through already-established
ties.



And the big one:
The group operated in a small section of northern Iraq surrounded by
Kurdish-controlled areas which were outside Saddam's control.

Kurdish officials have long alleged that Saddam's government helped Ansar,
but US officials have said they haven't yet found definitive proof of

that.

"...haven't *YET* found definitive proof..."



http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5571

Bush administration and PUK officials have also speculated that Ansar may

be
working with Saddam through a man named Abu Wa'il, reportedly an al-Qaeda
operative on Saddam's payroll.

Speculation is a bad thing.... Facts, now those are good things.


Facts are found when you pursue speculative leads. Remember, most of these
articles are anywhere from 6 months to almost 2 years old. The facts will
be presented in due time. There's still a lot of time before the November
election.







http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/768rwsbj.asp
This article removes the validation of any prior to it. One man that was
suposed to be active with Ansar al Islam in Northern Iraq was actually
killed in January 2000 in a battle with Lebanese forces.... Sorry but a

dead
man can't be active 1 year 9 months after his death... Ansar al Islam was
started September 1, 2001 according to all other accounts.


No. The date you mention is when bin Laden sent additional al Qaeda
terrorists from Afghanistan to northeastern Iraq...speculating that the
fallout just 10 days later would make Afghanistan unsuitable for further al
qaeda operations. The new terrorists simply linked up with groups that were
already there.






http://www.themercury.news.com.au/co...55E401,00.html
That information is the first solid evidence of links between remnants of
Saddam's regime and the non-Iraqi fighters responsible for at least some

of
the attacks on US forces and their Iraqi allies, the official said.

Funny thing with this story is they are talking of remenants of the former
regime... Not talking about any connection prior to Saddam being removed.

And the big one:
The group operated in a small section of northern Iraq surrounded by
Kurdish-controlled areas which were outside Saddam's control.

Kurdish officials have long alleged that Saddam's government helped Ansar,
but US officials have said they haven't yet found definitive proof of

that.

By the way... It is the same article from the Fox News site


http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...-attacks_x.htm

I won't repeat it a 3rd time... This is the same story as the Fox News

Site
again

Sorry but I don't get swayed by repetitive articles... My mind works

better
than that.



The point of listing the same article from three independent sites is to
show you that various mainstream media outlets have carried this story...yet
I couldn't find a single mention of them in the NY Times, Washington Post,
LA Times, CNN, BBC, or al Jazeera. If you're getting your info solely from
those sources, you're being spoon-fed liberal bull**** and spin.


The al Qaeda-Saddam link will slowly grow into the most dominant news story
flooding the airwaves this Summer and Fall. You're starting to see bits and
pieces already...which is why I say that today's discovery of the sarin gas
shell (and the discovery two weeks ago of the mustard gas shell) is just the
tip of the iceberg.

Just watch. Bush and Co. will continue to build the case that al qaeda and
Saddam were working together prior to and after 9/11.



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