I tried trimming up my Johnson yesterday with fresh batteries. It made
a brief Buzz and then stopped. Nothing! I used the screw at the bottom
to let pressure off and manually pulled the motor up.

I tested the voltage to the pump with a multimeter getting full volts
when switched. I fear it might be toast. I priced some online for
around 319.00 YIKES! Anywhere I can have it rebuilt? anything left
here to test.

I might have to rename this barge Money Pit heh

wrote:

I tried trimming up my Johnson yesterday with fresh batteries. It made
a brief Buzz and then stopped. Nothing! I used the screw at the bottom
to let pressure off and manually pulled the motor up.


The nice thing is that you probably have the "external" T&T for that
motor... so you can remove the entire unit w/o having to give up boating
while fixing it.

I tested the voltage to the pump with a multimeter getting full volts
when switched. I fear it might be toast. I priced some online for
around 319.00 YIKES!


Sierra 18-6762

http://www.boatfix.com/bymfg.ASP?mak....&whichpage=31


Anywhere I can have it rebuilt?

Auto-farm-electric shop locally...

OR my electric motor guru by UPS:

http://tinyurl.com/2s3nt

Ask for Gary.


anything left
here to test.

I might have to rename this barge Money Pit heh


I'm ready to buy as soon as you're ready to sell...

Rob

Rob,

You the man. I cant tell you how much I appreciate the help!
I will give them a try.

and your right. although we need to do careful boating we can still
boat ;-)On Wed, 05 May 2004 21:19:16 -0400, trainfan1
wrote:

wrote:

I tried trimming up my Johnson yesterday with fresh batteries. It made
a brief Buzz and then stopped. Nothing! I used the screw at the bottom
to let pressure off and manually pulled the motor up.


The nice thing is that you probably have the "external" T&T for that
motor... so you can remove the entire unit w/o having to give up boating
while fixing it.

I tested the voltage to the pump with a multimeter getting full volts
when switched. I fear it might be toast. I priced some online for
around 319.00 YIKES!


Sierra 18-6762

http://www.boatfix.com/bymfg.ASP?mak....&whichpage=31


Anywhere I can have it rebuilt?

Auto-farm-electric shop locally...

OR my electric motor guru by UPS:

http://tinyurl.com/2s3nt

Ask for Gary.


anything left
here to test.

I might have to rename this barge Money Pit heh


I'm ready to buy as soon as you're ready to sell...

Rob

Those 30 year old 2 strokes are gas hogs but they can make a great mooring
weight.

I gave may last old 2 stroke away.

I would consider the new high pressure 2 strokes but no more old multiple
carbureted hogs for me.

For boats/motors, RVs, trucks and cars, try to find something around 10
years old or less.

I cost way to much for repairs now and parts are harder to find than ever.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


wrote in message
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I tried trimming up my Johnson yesterday with fresh batteries. It made
a brief Buzz and then stopped. Nothing! I used the screw at the bottom
to let pressure off and manually pulled the motor up.

I tested the voltage to the pump with a multimeter getting full volts
when switched. I fear it might be toast. I priced some online for
around 319.00 YIKES! Anywhere I can have it rebuilt? anything left
here to test.

I might have to rename this barge Money Pit heh

No kidding about the gas usage. We can eat through a 6 gallon remote
on this old thing in about 45 minutes of 3/4 throttle cruising.
Unbelieveable. I bought a 13 gallon tank from Overtons I am going to
try. 45 minutes of running on todays gas prices + oil = about 24.00
per 6 gallons burned. A typical day trip we will go through about 4-5
tanks. So a day long trip just in fuel is about 60 bux. Thats a lot of
bread just boat fuel alone. This isnt a Yacht either just a 27ft
pontoon. Crazy! But a new replacement 115 outboard is around $7-8,000
bux. This one is paid for ;-)




On Thu, 06 May 2004 05:09:20 GMT, "Bill Kiene"
wrote:

Those 30 year old 2 strokes are gas hogs but they can make a great mooring
weight.

I gave may last old 2 stroke away.

I would consider the new high pressure 2 strokes but no more old multiple
carbureted hogs for me.

For boats/motors, RVs, trucks and cars, try to find something around 10
years old or less.

I cost way to much for repairs now and parts are harder to find than ever.

wrote in message . ..
I tried trimming up my Johnson yesterday with fresh batteries. It made
a brief Buzz and then stopped. Nothing! I used the screw at the bottom
to let pressure off and manually pulled the motor up.

I tested the voltage to the pump with a multimeter getting full volts
when switched. I fear it might be toast. I priced some online for
around 319.00 YIKES! Anywhere I can have it rebuilt? anything left
here to test.

I might have to rename this barge Money Pit heh

If you are handy with this sort of thing, you may be able to fix it.
Here is what happened to mine, a 74 Evinrude, so probably the same.
There were, however, two types of pump/motor combos used for my motor,
but quite similar. One pump is triangular shaped, the other is round.
Mine was round. What was happening was this: There is a thermo cut off
inside the the motor, a set of points. These points opened up WAY too
soon for some reason, way before the motor was even warm. I took the
points out of the equation, and hooked to wires together. The pain is
getting the brush assembly back into place on the armature. I tied
them back with sewing thread, put the unit in place, except for enough
to get a knife in, cut the threads, and pull them out. It worked like
a champ.

Well if I try it agian and get nothing. I have nothing to lose popping
it open and trying the same thing. I will perhaps try that and if it
doesnt work send it off to be reworked. This one is the round pump so
yeah very similar and more than likely the same pump.

On 6 May 2004 04:03:15 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

wrote in message . ..
I tried trimming up my Johnson yesterday with fresh batteries. It made
a brief Buzz and then stopped. Nothing! I used the screw at the bottom
to let pressure off and manually pulled the motor up.

I tested the voltage to the pump with a multimeter getting full volts
when switched. I fear it might be toast. I priced some online for
around 319.00 YIKES! Anywhere I can have it rebuilt? anything left
here to test.

I might have to rename this barge Money Pit heh

If you are handy with this sort of thing, you may be able to fix it.
Here is what happened to mine, a 74 Evinrude, so probably the same.
There were, however, two types of pump/motor combos used for my motor,
but quite similar. One pump is triangular shaped, the other is round.
Mine was round. What was happening was this: There is a thermo cut off
inside the the motor, a set of points. These points opened up WAY too
soon for some reason, way before the motor was even warm. I took the
points out of the equation, and hooked to wires together. The pain is
getting the brush assembly back into place on the armature. I tied
them back with sewing thread, put the unit in place, except for enough
to get a knife in, cut the threads, and pull them out. It worked like
a champ.

wrote in message . ..
Well if I try it agian and get nothing. I have nothing to lose popping
it open and trying the same thing. I will perhaps try that and if it
doesnt work send it off to be reworked. This one is the round pump so
yeah very similar and more than likely the same pump.

Yes, there are two distinct styles, one is called a Calco, I think,
and the other is Prestolite.

wrote in message . ..
Well if I try it agian and get nothing. I have nothing to lose popping
it open and trying the same thing. I will perhaps try that and if it
doesnt work send it off to be reworked. This one is the round pump so
yeah very similar and more than likely the same pump.

Oh, yes, and while you are in there, clean the shafts, etc nice and
shiny, use a little 3m oil.