labomba 'splains:

-Sorry if I misunderstood. I think it started when you started your reply
with Bilge -.I though you were using it as a replacement for calling BS. And
then when you went on talking about a large ship and swinging areas I lost the
tie in.-

Bilge---my shorthand nickname, (although many,many,many people will agree that
it also means BS!). No problemo, Captain.

Diego Garcia and Saipan are prime places to observe the imporatnce of staying
in the little circle on the charts. Once the tide was running into Diego
lagoon, and the American Cormorant was swinging, and we on the Gibson
weren't...interesting watching "Big Red" come at you at such a stately pace.

The unwritten backstory behind the Express' grounding is that they don't like
to anchor close in, because the charterer, Maersk Line, supposedly doesn't like
paying for launch service, and Capetown is one of the few ports in the
container trade where you actually ride the hook while awaiting a
berth...potential off time.

I was on SeaLand Voyager last year, did 112 days and had 4 hours off the ship
in Durban. And the corporate dummies wonder why no-one wants any past of their
crappy industry!

Personally, I think someone makes extra compensation for "cutting budget",
that Maersk would pay launch service fees...but that's another story.

In light of this, they try to anchor as far out as possible, and this being
South Africa right off the Southern Ocean, they anchored maybe a little further
out than was...prudent.

Word around the hall is they were dragging anchor and heading for the island
prison where Mandella was kept for all those years under Apartheid.

Much opportunity for "pucker factor".

Regards;


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Diego Garcia and Saipan are prime places to observe the imporatnce of staying
in the little circle on the charts.

of course. far and away the most important anchorages for cruisers in the
entire world.

btw, what does the US Navy say about anchoring around Diego Garcia?

jaxahby asks:

-of course. far and away the most important anchorages for cruisers in the
entire world.

btw, what does the US Navy say about anchoring around Diego Garcia?-


Bilge- Not that the US Navy has any say in the matter, (nudge-nudge,
wink-wink), since it's British Territory, and you know how the Limeys can
be...very clubby.

"By invitation ONLY, old chap".

In fact, they have had quite a fleet of seized fishing boats that they
occassionally tow out and "request" that the US forces "assist" them in
machine-gunning to the bottom...always an occasion for an island-wide
picnic...a big draw. Hey, everyone gets bored.

What in the heck would you want to go to "Dodge" for, anyway? Are you queer
for sea turtles and coconut crabs?

See Diego the civilized way...I pulled some strings for you...I have
"friends"...check the link:

http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/links.html#this

Trust me, this is much better, less AA meetings to attend.

Cheers;




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Diego Garcia, according to widespread reports, is leased to the US Navy. You
heard different? I understand the indigents removed to Mosambique (?) are
still ****ed even after several decades. Perhaps you can enlighten us?

nah, you are a dum squat.

From: (Bilgeman)
Date: 9/17/2004 1:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

jaxahby asks:

-of course. far and away the most important anchorages for cruisers in the
entire world.

btw, what does the US Navy say about anchoring around Diego Garcia?-


Bilge- Not that the US Navy has any say in the matter, (nudge-nudge,
wink-wink), since it's British Territory, and you know how the Limeys can
be...very clubby.

"By invitation ONLY, old chap".

In fact, they have had quite a fleet of seized fishing boats that they
occassionally tow out and "request" that the US forces "assist" them in
machine-gunning to the bottom...always an occasion for an island-wide
picnic...a big draw. Hey, everyone gets bored.

What in the heck would you want to go to "Dodge" for, anyway? Are you queer
for sea turtles and coconut crabs?

See Diego the civilized way...I pulled some strings for you...I have
"friends"...check the link:

http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/links.html#this

Trust me, this is much better, less AA meetings to attend.

Cheers;




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jaxashby :

-Diego Garcia, according to widespread reports, is leased to the US Navy.-

Bilge- Leased is the word, chap, leased. It's still under UK flag, British
Indian Ocean Territory. Their laws still apply. They decide who comes and who
doesn't. But what would I know?
I've only been there in 1989, 1996, and 2001&2002.


-I understand the indigents removed to Mosambique (?) are still ****ed even
after several decades. Perhaps you can enlighten us?-jaxashby

Bilge- They were dumped off in Mauritius, and yes, many are still upset.
There is litigation that has been moving through the courts of the UK and the
US for quite a few years on their behalf. If you'd looked around the website I
linked you, you'd see that it is covered at some length...


-nah, you are a dum squat.-jaxashby

Bilge- Okay....pal. Sail yer little cruiser out to Dodge for a visit...I'll
make sure to catch a job back out there and hoist a few brewskis when they
seize your "hazard to navigation" and turn it into a "fish habitat" ...assuming
you can even make it out that far.


GFY


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so, how come with all that knowledge, bilge rat, you didn't know of the US
Naval presence there?

From: (Bilgeman)
Date: 9/19/2004 12:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

jaxashby :

-Diego Garcia, according to widespread reports, is leased to the US
Navy.-

Bilge- Leased is the word, chap, leased. It's still under UK flag, British
Indian Ocean Territory. Their laws still apply. They decide who comes and who
doesn't. But what would I know?
I've only been there in 1989, 1996, and 2001&2002.


-I understand the indigents removed to Mosambique (?) are still ****ed even
after several decades. Perhaps you can enlighten us?-jaxashby

Bilge- They were dumped off in Mauritius, and yes, many are still upset.
There is litigation that has been moving through the courts of the UK and the
US for quite a few years on their behalf. If you'd looked around the website
I
linked you, you'd see that it is covered at some length...


-nah, you are a dum squat.-jaxashby

Bilge- Okay....pal. Sail yer little cruiser out to Dodge for a visit...I'll
make sure to catch a job back out there and hoist a few brewskis when they
seize your "hazard to navigation" and turn it into a "fish habitat"
...assuming
you can even make it out that far.


GFY


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Subject: Why need anchor chain?
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 09/19/2004 10:07 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

so, how come with all that knowledge, bilge rat, you didn't know of the US
Naval presence there?


LOL Sounds like another one of your faulty assumptions, based on scanty
information, Doodles.

Shen