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Help: 1976 OMC Outdrive
Does anyone know how to repair the electric shift solenoid system on a 1976
OMC outdrive? I have the Clymer manual, but I am very unclear how this is done. Thanks Jim Rojas |
1976 OMC Outdrive
Since you have a manual, I assume you already know you have 2 shifting coils
in the lower unit. Find the dark blue and dark green wires that come out of the shifter. Follow them back and you should find quick disconnects behind the motor and just before they go into the lower unit. Disconnect them and with ignition on be sure you have 12V coming to them from the shifter . Blue is reverse and green is fwd. Be sure the lower unit is grounded good. If voltage is good, check each coil for continuity. I can't remember for sure, but I think they should read around 6 ohms. -- Bill Chesapeake, Va "Jim Rojas" wrote in message ... Does anyone know how to repair the electric shift solenoid system on a 1976 OMC outdrive? I have the Clymer manual, but I am very unclear how this is done. Thanks Jim Rojas |
1976 OMC Outdrive
Yes, I applied power to each leg and got no action or engaging sounds. I
guess my question is how difficult is this to replace? The trim motor was also not working...once I removed the lower unit, I took apart the trim motor. The trim motor was shot...I ordered an aftermarket unit from an ebay vendor for $135, which included shipping. My local boat shop wanted $329 for a rebuilt motor. I only paid $200 for the boat...so any time I spend repairing it is kinda fun. The motor did not run as well. I pulled the carburetor and installed a rebuild kit. Motor turned over the first try, and runs strong. The exhaust manifold needs to be replaced, but other than the other minor problems, I should be able to get it in the water in a few weeks. Thanks for replying. Jim Rojas "WRH" wrote in message news:hgykc.25035$f_5.19750@lakeread01... Since you have a manual, I assume you already know you have 2 shifting coils in the lower unit. Find the dark blue and dark green wires that come out of the shifter. Follow them back and you should find quick disconnects behind the motor and just before they go into the lower unit. Disconnect them and with ignition on be sure you have 12V coming to them from the shifter . Blue is reverse and green is fwd. Be sure the lower unit is grounded good. If voltage is good, check each coil for continuity. I can't remember for sure, but I think they should read around 6 ohms. -- Bill Chesapeake, Va "Jim Rojas" wrote in message ... Does anyone know how to repair the electric shift solenoid system on a 1976 OMC outdrive? I have the Clymer manual, but I am very unclear how this is done. Thanks Jim Rojas |
1976 OMC Outdrive
Did you check continuity through the coils?
-- Bill Chesapeake, Va "Jim Rojas" wrote in message ... Yes, I applied power to each leg and got no action or engaging sounds. I guess my question is how difficult is this to replace? The trim motor was also not working...once I removed the lower unit, I took apart the trim motor. The trim motor was shot...I ordered an aftermarket unit from an ebay vendor for $135, which included shipping. My local boat shop wanted $329 for a rebuilt motor. I only paid $200 for the boat...so any time I spend repairing it is kinda fun. The motor did not run as well. I pulled the carburetor and installed a rebuild kit. Motor turned over the first try, and runs strong. The exhaust manifold needs to be replaced, but other than the other minor problems, I should be able to get it in the water in a few weeks. Thanks for replying. Jim Rojas "WRH" wrote in message news:hgykc.25035$f_5.19750@lakeread01... Since you have a manual, I assume you already know you have 2 shifting coils in the lower unit. Find the dark blue and dark green wires that come out of the shifter. Follow them back and you should find quick disconnects behind the motor and just before they go into the lower unit. Disconnect them and with ignition on be sure you have 12V coming to them from the shifter . Blue is reverse and green is fwd. Be sure the lower unit is grounded good. If voltage is good, check each coil for continuity. I can't remember for sure, but I think they should read around 6 ohms. -- Bill Chesapeake, Va "Jim Rojas" wrote in message ... Does anyone know how to repair the electric shift solenoid system on a 1976 OMC outdrive? I have the Clymer manual, but I am very unclear how this is done. Thanks Jim Rojas |
1976 OMC Outdrive
As soon as I figure out where the coils are located, I'll let you know.
There was a splice on the outside of the drive. Someone used an orange extension cord to complete the connection into the transom. I took that apart and applied voltage on each wire, using the chassis as common ground. I got nothing so far. I will read the book a little more. Maybe it will show me exactly where the coils are located. Thanks Jim Rojas "WRH" wrote in message news:xKAkc.31620$f_5.11426@lakeread01... Did you check continuity through the coils? -- Bill Chesapeake, Va "Jim Rojas" wrote in message ... Yes, I applied power to each leg and got no action or engaging sounds. I guess my question is how difficult is this to replace? The trim motor was also not working...once I removed the lower unit, I took apart the trim motor. The trim motor was shot...I ordered an aftermarket unit from an ebay vendor for $135, which included shipping. My local boat shop wanted $329 for a rebuilt motor. I only paid $200 for the boat...so any time I spend repairing it is kinda fun. The motor did not run as well. I pulled the carburetor and installed a rebuild kit. Motor turned over the first try, and runs strong. The exhaust manifold needs to be replaced, but other than the other minor problems, I should be able to get it in the water in a few weeks. Thanks for replying. Jim Rojas "WRH" wrote in message news:hgykc.25035$f_5.19750@lakeread01... Since you have a manual, I assume you already know you have 2 shifting coils in the lower unit. Find the dark blue and dark green wires that come out of the shifter. Follow them back and you should find quick disconnects behind the motor and just before they go into the lower unit. Disconnect them and with ignition on be sure you have 12V coming to them from the shifter .. Blue is reverse and green is fwd. Be sure the lower unit is grounded good. If voltage is good, check each coil for continuity. I can't remember for sure, but I think they should read around 6 ohms. -- Bill Chesapeake, Va "Jim Rojas" wrote in message ... Does anyone know how to repair the electric shift solenoid system on a 1976 OMC outdrive? I have the Clymer manual, but I am very unclear how this is done. Thanks Jim Rojas |
1976 OMC Outdrive
Jim Rojas wrote:
As soon as I figure out where the coils are located, I'll let you know. There was a splice on the outside of the drive. Someone used an orange extension cord to complete the connection into the transom. I took that apart and applied voltage on each wire, using the chassis as common ground. I got nothing so far. I will read the book a little more. Maybe it will show me exactly where the coils are located. Thanks Jim Rojas The coils are concentric on the propshaft. You need to check the resistance of the coils - at the leads - to ground before you go tearing apart. Just applying 12v is not a good enough test. You need 8 ohms of resistance from each coil, and a slight clockwise turning on the vertical shaft will help engage/wind the spring onto the gear hub. You may not hear anything inside that hunk of metal just applying voltage. If the coils pass the electrical test, and still do not engage, the clutch springs are likely broken. Rob |
1976 OMC Outdrive
-- Bill Chesapeake, Va "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Jim Rojas wrote: As soon as I figure out where the coils are located, I'll let you know. There was a splice on the outside of the drive. Someone used an orange extension cord to complete the connection into the transom. I took that apart and applied voltage on each wire, using the chassis as common ground. I got nothing so far. I will read the book a little more. Maybe it will show me exactly where the coils are located. Thanks Jim Rojas The coils are concentric on the propshaft. You need to check the resistance of the coils - at the leads - to ground before you go tearing apart. Just applying 12v is not a good enough test. You need 8 ohms of resistance from each coil, and a slight clockwise turning on the vertical shaft will help engage/wind the spring onto the gear hub. You may not hear anything inside that hunk of metal just applying voltage. If the coils pass the electrical test, and still do not engage, the clutch springs are likely broken. Rob Or he could have a broken vertical shaft like happened to me. |
1976 OMC Outdrive
I placed my meter across both leads. I am reading 11.4 ohms.
If I spin the shaft, the reading swings between 8 to 13 ohms. Jim Rojas "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Jim Rojas wrote: As soon as I figure out where the coils are located, I'll let you know. There was a splice on the outside of the drive. Someone used an orange extension cord to complete the connection into the transom. I took that apart and applied voltage on each wire, using the chassis as common ground. I got nothing so far. I will read the book a little more. Maybe it will show me exactly where the coils are located. Thanks Jim Rojas The coils are concentric on the propshaft. You need to check the resistance of the coils - at the leads - to ground before you go tearing apart. Just applying 12v is not a good enough test. You need 8 ohms of resistance from each coil, and a slight clockwise turning on the vertical shaft will help engage/wind the spring onto the gear hub. You may not hear anything inside that hunk of metal just applying voltage. If the coils pass the electrical test, and still do not engage, the clutch springs are likely broken. Rob |
1976 OMC Outdrive
Jim Rojas wrote:
I placed my meter across both leads. I am reading 11.4 ohms. If I spin the shaft, the reading swings between 8 to 13 ohms. Jim Rojas Across both leads, divide by 2. Try each lead to ground, the total of the two should equal your reading across both leads, which sounds like they are within tolerance and the coils are both grounded OK... no open circuit(good) and no short circuit(also good) and then you can check for a 1.5 - 2 amp draw under load with a 12v source. If you do not have a good multimeter for this part, a low current battery charger with a half-way decent ammeter should allow you to get a good ball-park figure. If the vertical shaft is intact (as per WRH post) you should be able to get the springs to load up on the gears (1 at a time - forward & reverse) with a clockwise rotation(as viewed from the top) while each coil is energized. If the springs are in good shape(they do wear) you will get maximum life by using OMC Type C lower unit oil (used to contain whale oil - no longer does). I have not sourced the clutch springs in years, so you may have to do some web searching... they are certainly a weak point of this type of drive. Rob |
1976 OMC Outdrive
I tried each lead to ground...zero resistance on each one.
Jim Rojas "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Jim Rojas wrote: I placed my meter across both leads. I am reading 11.4 ohms. If I spin the shaft, the reading swings between 8 to 13 ohms. Jim Rojas Across both leads, divide by 2. Try each lead to ground, the total of the two should equal your reading across both leads, which sounds like they are within tolerance and the coils are both grounded OK... no open circuit(good) and no short circuit(also good) and then you can check for a 1.5 - 2 amp draw under load with a 12v source. If you do not have a good multimeter for this part, a low current battery charger with a half-way decent ammeter should allow you to get a good ball-park figure. If the vertical shaft is intact (as per WRH post) you should be able to get the springs to load up on the gears (1 at a time - forward & reverse) with a clockwise rotation(as viewed from the top) while each coil is energized. If the springs are in good shape(they do wear) you will get maximum life by using OMC Type C lower unit oil (used to contain whale oil - no longer does). I have not sourced the clutch springs in years, so you may have to do some web searching... they are certainly a weak point of this type of drive. Rob |
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