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NOYB April 29th 04 03:21 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue - and
we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a month
from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."






jps April 29th 04 04:24 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
In article et,
says...
To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue - and
we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a month
from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."


Wow, big news. You neocons love vagaries. How about let's talk about
10 more of our kids got killed today in Bush's quagmire?

Let's relive another quote.

Donny "Slick" Rumsfeld's assertion before the war that they "knew where
the WMDs were, around Tikrit" and elsewhere.

Bullpucky.

Doug Kanter April 29th 04 04:29 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
November 1st, 2004. Gaaaaaar-on-teed.

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue - and
we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a month
from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."








NOYB April 29th 04 04:39 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
How about we talk about the al Qaeda terrorist who was caught trying to
detonate a chemical bomb in Jordan recently?

ABC World News Now. April 27, 2004

In an interview broadcast by ABC's World News Now, the leader of the Al
Qaeda cell organizing the explosive and chemical attack on the Jordanian
security headquarters and the American Embassy in Jordan stated that he
received his training from Al-Zawahiri in Iraq, prior to the fall of
Afghanistan.

--------------------------------------------------

The War on Terrorism and the War in Iraq are one and the same.




NOYB April 29th 04 04:39 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
November 1st, 2004. Gaaaaaar-on-teed.


So you agree with the high-ranking official's assessment that "we may yet
find them"?



Doug Kanter April 29th 04 04:46 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
November 1st, 2004. Gaaaaaar-on-teed.


So you agree with the high-ranking official's assessment that "we may yet
find them"?



At 5:00 today, I'm going fishing. There's a creek running through my office
park. There's some sort of insect hatch going on right now. Therefore, it
appears I may have a hatch to match on a different creek, the one I'll be
fishing on.

The official said "it appears.....we may yet find them".

The content of my fishing prediction is pure fluff. The content of the
official's statement is pure fluff. You know that.



jps April 29th 04 04:51 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
In article et,
says...
How about we talk about the al Qaeda terrorist who was caught trying to
detonate a chemical bomb in Jordan recently?

ABC World News Now. April 27, 2004

In an interview broadcast by ABC's World News Now, the leader of the Al
Qaeda cell organizing the explosive and chemical attack on the Jordanian
security headquarters and the American Embassy in Jordan stated that he
received his training from Al-Zawahiri in Iraq, prior to the fall of
Afghanistan.


Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

Doug Kanter April 29th 04 04:56 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...
How about we talk about the al Qaeda terrorist who was caught trying to
detonate a chemical bomb in Jordan recently?

ABC World News Now. April 27, 2004

In an interview broadcast by ABC's World News Now, the leader of the Al
Qaeda cell organizing the explosive and chemical attack on the Jordanian
security headquarters and the American Embassy in Jordan stated that he
received his training from Al-Zawahiri in Iraq, prior to the fall of
Afghanistan.


Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps


We have yet to bomb that damned state.



NOYB April 29th 04 05:03 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...
How about we talk about the al Qaeda terrorist who was caught trying to
detonate a chemical bomb in Jordan recently?

ABC World News Now. April 27, 2004

In an interview broadcast by ABC's World News Now, the leader of the Al
Qaeda cell organizing the explosive and chemical attack on the Jordanian
security headquarters and the American Embassy in Jordan stated that he
received his training from Al-Zawahiri in Iraq, prior to the fall of
Afghanistan.


Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.



Way to skip over the important point: al Qaeda was using Iraq as a
safe-haven while plotting the attack...long before we even went into Iraq.

Currently, members of Saddam's "Special Operations and Antiterrorism Branch"
are working in conjuncton with al Zarqawi's al Qaeda unit to coordinate
attacks against U.S. forces.

I don't know what it will take to convince you that al Qaeda and Iraq had
been working together for years.





Joe April 29th 04 05:14 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"jps" wrote in message
...

Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps


They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



Doug Kanter April 29th 04 05:14 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...
How about we talk about the al Qaeda terrorist who was caught trying

to
detonate a chemical bomb in Jordan recently?

ABC World News Now. April 27, 2004

In an interview broadcast by ABC's World News Now, the leader of the

Al
Qaeda cell organizing the explosive and chemical attack on the

Jordanian
security headquarters and the American Embassy in Jordan stated that

he
received his training from Al-Zawahiri in Iraq, prior to the fall of
Afghanistan.


Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.



Way to skip over the important point: al Qaeda was using Iraq as a
safe-haven while plotting the attack...long before we even went into Iraq.

Currently, members of Saddam's "Special Operations and Antiterrorism

Branch"
are working in conjuncton with al Zarqawi's al Qaeda unit to coordinate
attacks against U.S. forces.

I don't know what it will take to convince you that al Qaeda and Iraq had
been working together for years.


Evidence, not just claims.



Doug Kanter April 29th 04 05:18 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
"Joe" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...

Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps


They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read the
message again, slowly this time.



Joe April 29th 04 05:48 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...

Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps


They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read the
message again, slowly this time.



I could care less whether or not he thinks the OC bomb was a WMD.
My beef is with his statement that the Jordan bomb was not a WMD.

He is trying to downplay the significance of the thwarted Jordan bomb by
comparing it to a simple fertilizer bomb as used in OC.
The sole purpose of the explosives in *this* bomb was to spread the
chemicals and nerve agents as far as possible, to kill as many as possible.
The Jordan bomb is a WMD.



NOYB April 29th 04 05:50 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...

Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps


They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read the
message again, slowly this time.


I said "chemical bombs"...not WMD. jps added the WMD as a red herring to
divert the argument away from its most important point...that Saddam's
people and al Qaeda had been and have been working together for quite some
time.



NOYB April 29th 04 05:52 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"Joe" wrote in message
.. .

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...

Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large

quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read

the
message again, slowly this time.



I could care less whether or not he thinks the OC bomb was a WMD.
My beef is with his statement that the Jordan bomb was not a WMD.

He is trying to downplay the significance of the thwarted Jordan bomb by
comparing it to a simple fertilizer bomb as used in OC.
The sole purpose of the explosives in *this* bomb was to spread the
chemicals and nerve agents as far as possible, to kill as many as

possible.
The Jordan bomb is a WMD.


Absolutely it was a WMD. However, the point of the Jordanian story was that
one of the terrorists admitted to have trained in Iraq *BEFORE THE US
INVASION*.

Nevertheless, I've read several reports that stated VX was one of the
components of the bombs.





Doug Kanter April 29th 04 06:29 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"Joe" wrote in message
.. .

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...

Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large

quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read

the
message again, slowly this time.



I could care less whether or not he thinks the OC bomb was a WMD.
My beef is with his statement that the Jordan bomb was not a WMD.

He is trying to downplay the significance of the thwarted Jordan bomb by
comparing it to a simple fertilizer bomb as used in OC.
The sole purpose of the explosives in *this* bomb was to spread the
chemicals and nerve agents as far as possible, to kill as many as

possible.
The Jordan bomb is a WMD.



I believe what he meant was that you can't point your finger at a commonly
available chemical and claim it's in the same category as chemical and
nuclear weapons. Of course, you could say that fertilizer-based bombs and
nuclear warheads both go "boom", but so do tanker trucks full of gasoline.



jps April 29th 04 07:00 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
In article .net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...
How about we talk about the al Qaeda terrorist who was caught trying to
detonate a chemical bomb in Jordan recently?

ABC World News Now. April 27, 2004

In an interview broadcast by ABC's World News Now, the leader of the Al
Qaeda cell organizing the explosive and chemical attack on the Jordanian
security headquarters and the American Embassy in Jordan stated that he
received his training from Al-Zawahiri in Iraq, prior to the fall of
Afghanistan.


Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.



Way to skip over the important point: al Qaeda was using Iraq as a
safe-haven while plotting the attack...long before we even went into Iraq.


Well Jeez, Saudi Arabia was a safe haven and provided funding for al
Qaeda long before we went to Iraq. Further, 15 or the 19 hijackers who
conspired to kill 3000 of our brethren were Saudi nationals. Why didn't
we invade their country?

There's plenty of evidence of terrorist activity in Saudi Arabia right
now!

Should we invade there next or should it be Iran? Would you like to
send your children?

jps April 29th 04 07:02 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
In article k.net,
says...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...

Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read the
message again, slowly this time.


I said "chemical bombs"...not WMD. jps added the WMD as a red herring to
divert the argument away from its most important point...that Saddam's
people and al Qaeda had been and have been working together for quite some
time.


In your little fantasy world, which you apparently share with President
Bush.

____m___~¿Ô___m____ April 29th 04 07:28 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
NOYB wrote:

To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue - and
we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a month
from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."


That must have been the "high ranking government offical" who's hiding them
at this very moment. Better not hide them too well. I think many have
stopped looking.
We may have to reinstall Saddam to control the home folks. His Generals are
on their way now to quiet things down until we leave. That "high ranking
government offical" better remember where he put them so we can remove all
traces before we leave. Wouldn't want to have to invade a country that we
had just reinstated their sovernity to look for the damn things again.
--
__________m___~¿Ô___m____________________________

NOYB April 29th 04 07:55 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article .net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article et,
says...
How about we talk about the al Qaeda terrorist who was caught trying

to
detonate a chemical bomb in Jordan recently?

ABC World News Now. April 27, 2004

In an interview broadcast by ABC's World News Now, the leader of the

Al
Qaeda cell organizing the explosive and chemical attack on the

Jordanian
security headquarters and the American Embassy in Jordan stated that

he
received his training from Al-Zawahiri in Iraq, prior to the fall of
Afghanistan.

Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.



Way to skip over the important point: al Qaeda was using Iraq as a
safe-haven while plotting the attack...long before we even went into

Iraq.

Well Jeez, Saudi Arabia was a safe haven and provided funding for al
Qaeda long before we went to Iraq. Further, 15 or the 19 hijackers who
conspired to kill 3000 of our brethren were Saudi nationals. Why didn't
we invade their country?


Because our economy couldn't handle the economic shock of the lost oil
supply. Of course, Iraq provides not only the staging area to strike
against the other countries in the region...but also enough oil to keep our
economy going should bin Laden successfully oust the Saudi royals.



There's plenty of evidence of terrorist activity in Saudi Arabia right
now!




Should we invade there next or should it be Iran?


Probably Iran, since they're closest to developing nukes. There may not be
a need to hit Saudi Arabia militarily if we're able to isolate them from the
rest of the Middle East.

Would you like to
send your children?


Of course I wouldn't like it. However, my kids are 4 1/2, 2 1/2 and 1 years
old. I'd prefer we deal with the radical Islamics now rather than in 13
years when my oldest is draft age...*AND* those same countries have nukes.



NOYB April 29th 04 07:56 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"____m___~¿Ô___m____" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue -

and
we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a

month
from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."


That must have been the "high ranking government offical" who's hiding

them
at this very moment.


Hehehe. It was John Kerry on Hardball with Chris Matthews Tuesday night.



Joe April 29th 04 07:57 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

Hehehe. It was John Kerry on Hardball with Chris Matthews Tuesday night.


He shoots, he scores!



Doug Kanter April 29th 04 08:14 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

Should we invade there next or should it be Iran?


Probably Iran, since they're closest to developing nukes. There may not

be
a need to hit Saudi Arabia militarily if we're able to isolate them from

the
rest of the Middle East.


Hit Saudi Arabia....pant...pant.....pant....I don't have words to describe
how HOT HOT HOT you sound when you talk macho like that, with those sexy
action verbs. Not unlike President "Bring 'Em On". I have to go get some
fresh air.....


Would you like to
send your children?


Of course I wouldn't like it. However, my kids are 4 1/2, 2 1/2 and 1

years
old. I'd prefer we deal with the radical Islamics now rather than in 13
years when my oldest is draft age...*AND* those same countries have nukes.



I have news for you, hot boy: If we keep dealing with the world in our
current fashion, we'll have the same problems when your kids are old enough
to be drafted.



Doug Kanter April 29th 04 08:18 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"____m___~¿Ô___m____" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue -

and
we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a

month
from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."


That must have been the "high ranking government offical" who's hiding

them
at this very moment.


Hehehe. It was John Kerry on Hardball with Chris Matthews Tuesday night.


Why should this surprise you? He has to use every method possible to steal
some of the knucklehead voters who'd otherwise vote for Nookular Boy. Every
candidate needs the knucklehead vote.



____m___~¿Ô___m____ April 29th 04 09:01 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
NOYB wrote:
(snip)
Way to skip over the important point: al Qaeda was using Iraq as a
safe-haven while plotting the attack...long before we even went into

Iraq.


When are the trials going to begin to prove this point?


Well Jeez, Saudi Arabia was a safe haven and provided funding for al
Qaeda long before we went to Iraq. Further, 15 or the 19 hijackers who
conspired to kill 3000 of our brethren were Saudi nationals. Why didn't
we invade their country?


Because our economy couldn't handle the economic shock of the lost oil
supply. Of course, Iraq provides not only the staging area to strike
against the other countries in the region...but also enough oil to keep
our economy going should bin Laden successfully oust the Saudi royals.


You admit this was all about oil now.

Maybe we should look to become more Hi-Tech in order to free us from a
limited supply of a resource and stop exporting technology abroad along
with jobs. Nobody needs the damn oil if they can't afford it.




There's plenty of evidence of terrorist activity in Saudi Arabia right
now!


Isn't that who we were looking for? Tell them to bring them to us in
handcuffs or else. NOW!!!!




Should we invade there next or should it be Iran?


Probably Iran, since they're closest to developing nukes. There may not
be a need to hit Saudi Arabia militarily if we're able to isolate them
from the rest of the Middle East.


Is this the way you see the "plan".


Would you like to
send your children?


Of course I wouldn't like it. However, my kids are 4 1/2, 2 1/2 and 1
years
old. I'd prefer we deal with the radical Islamics now rather than in 13
years when my oldest is draft age...*AND* those same countries have nukes.


There are countries with nukes now that were building rockets (fireworks)
before the Europeans knew what gun powder is.
They never have liked us very much either.
Will your kids want to defend us against them when we've been bankrupted
like Russia was.

I don't see your profession as being so secure, that enough "health care
professionals" couldn't be trained to take over many responsibilities, that
you are charged with now. That's what you hear from this administration.
Retrain the unemployed. Why not?

Then the attention may fall on the brotherhood of orginizations that you
belong to, and be seen as a group that inflates health care costs that
needs to be stopped. Can you say, Union Busters.

I have no idea what the "plan" is. I'm not sure there is one.
There is no need to reply, I just don't see, what you see.
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John Smith April 29th 04 09:03 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
As he slowly trolls, all the fish come into view, fighting each other to
grab his lure.


"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue - and
we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a month
from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."








thunder April 29th 04 09:10 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:39:36 +0000, NOYB wrote:

So you agree with the high-ranking official's assessment that "we may yet
find them"?


I would agree that finding WMD is rapidly becoming irrelevant. If this
administration was to be right about anything, I would have preferred it
to be right about the Iraqis welcoming us with flowers and dancing in the
streets.

____m___~¿Ô___m____ April 29th 04 09:19 PM

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NOYB wrote:


"____m___~¿Ô___m____" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue -

and
we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a

month
from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."


That must have been the "high ranking government offical" who's hiding

them
at this very moment.


Hehehe. It was John Kerry on Hardball with Chris Matthews Tuesday night.


Who is Chris Matthews?
What station?
I missed it.
I didn't intend to plagiarize a quote.
I would gladly give recognition where due.

Oh well..........I must not be the only one with this thought then.
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__________m___~¿Ô___m____________________________

____m___~¿Ô___m____ April 29th 04 09:31 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
John Smith wrote:

As he slowly trolls, all the fish come into view, fighting each other to
grab his lure.


"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue -
and we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a
month from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."





If everthing that of any value, that a "top poster" wrote was put to paper.
It could be folded up,,,, stuck up a fleas ass,,,, and it would roll around
like a BB in a boxcar.
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__________m___~¿Ô___m____________________________

____m___~¿Ô___m____ April 29th 04 09:36 PM

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____m___~¿Ô___m____ wrote:

John Smith wrote:

As he slowly trolls, all the fish come into view, fighting each other to
grab his lure.

( snipped to correct top posting troll)
If everthing that of any value, that a "top poster" wrote was put to
paper. It could be folded up,,,, stuck up a fleas ass,,,, and it would
roll around like a BB in a boxcar.


That's for you John. See how screwed up a "top poster" makes things.
--
__________m___~¿Ô___m____________________________

Harry Krause April 29th 04 10:26 PM

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Doug Kanter wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...


Should we invade there next or should it be Iran?


Probably Iran, since they're closest to developing nukes. There may not


be

a need to hit Saudi Arabia militarily if we're able to isolate them from


the

rest of the Middle East.



Hit Saudi Arabia....pant...pant.....pant....I don't have words to describe
how HOT HOT HOT you sound when you talk macho like that, with those sexy
action verbs. Not unlike President "Bring 'Em On". I have to go get some
fresh air.....



Would you like to

send your children?


Of course I wouldn't like it. However, my kids are 4 1/2, 2 1/2 and 1


years

old. I'd prefer we deal with the radical Islamics now rather than in 13
years when my oldest is draft age...*AND* those same countries have nukes.




I have news for you, hot boy: If we keep dealing with the world in our
current fashion, we'll have the same problems when your kids are old enough
to be drafted.



Perhaps the next target will be in SW Florida, where knobs-for-brains
lives.

NOYB April 29th 04 10:34 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"____m___~¿Ô___m____" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
(snip)
Way to skip over the important point: al Qaeda was using Iraq as a
safe-haven while plotting the attack...long before we even went into

Iraq.


When are the trials going to begin to prove this point?


Well Jeez, Saudi Arabia was a safe haven and provided funding for al
Qaeda long before we went to Iraq. Further, 15 or the 19 hijackers who
conspired to kill 3000 of our brethren were Saudi nationals. Why

didn't
we invade their country?


Because our economy couldn't handle the economic shock of the lost oil
supply. Of course, Iraq provides not only the staging area to strike
against the other countries in the region...but also enough oil to keep
our economy going should bin Laden successfully oust the Saudi royals.


You admit this was all about oil now.


I've admitted all along that oil has always been a key factor. bin Laden
wants us out of the Middle East so he can replace the Saudi and Jordanian
leadership with radical Islamics. Once that is accomplished, he will have
Israel surrounded, and he can control the oil in the region, thus destroying
us economically.

Why do you think so many al Qaeda terrorists are flooding into Iraq? Having
US troops in Iraq screws up his entire plan!


Maybe we should look to become more Hi-Tech in order to free us from a
limited supply of a resource and stop exporting technology abroad along
with jobs.


I agree...but it doesn't happen overnight.

Nobody needs the damn oil if they can't afford it.


Being able to afford it has nothing to do with whether or not you need it.

There's plenty of evidence of terrorist activity in Saudi Arabia right
now!


Isn't that who we were looking for? Tell them to bring them to us in
handcuffs or else. NOW!!!!







Should we invade there next or should it be Iran?


Probably Iran, since they're closest to developing nukes. There may not
be a need to hit Saudi Arabia militarily if we're able to isolate them
from the rest of the Middle East.


Is this the way you see the "plan".


It's the way I see it, yes. It also appears to be the way the plan is being
implemented by the White House.



Would you like to
send your children?


Of course I wouldn't like it. However, my kids are 4 1/2, 2 1/2 and 1
years
old. I'd prefer we deal with the radical Islamics now rather than in 13
years when my oldest is draft age...*AND* those same countries have

nukes.

There are countries with nukes now that were building rockets (fireworks)
before the Europeans knew what gun powder is.
They never have liked us very much either.


They're a known enemy who knows that an attack against the US with nukes
would mean Mutually Assured Destruction. The radical Islamic countries
think that they can give WMD's to terrorist groups who can sneak them into
Israel or the US without us tracing them back to the country of origin. Of
course, they got this stupid idea from watching how the Clinton
Administration handled terrorist cases (ie--as a law enforcement issue).


Will your kids want to defend us against them when we've been bankrupted
like Russia was.


We won't be bankrupted unless bin Laden controls the oil.


I don't see your profession as being so secure, that enough "health care
professionals" couldn't be trained to take over many responsibilities,

that
you are charged with now.


Dentistry requires 4 years of post-graduate training. The dental
specialities require an addition 2-4+ years. You really think people in
today's litigious society would allow a layman near their mouths with a high
speed bur running at 400,000 rpm? Or allow them to cut away bone from an
impacted wisdom tooth? Or do a root canal? You're dreaming.


That's what you hear from this administration.
Retrain the unemployed. Why not?


I just explained "why not".



Then the attention may fall on the brotherhood of orginizations that you
belong to, and be seen as a group that inflates health care costs that
needs to be stopped. Can you say, Union Busters.


Can you say "you'd need to overturn a State's constitutional amendment that
establishes a self-regulating Board of Dentistry"?


I have no idea what the "plan" is. I'm not sure there is one.
There is no need to reply, I just don't see, what you see.


Perhaps you're not trying hard enough.



NOYB April 29th 04 10:36 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"____m___~¿Ô___m____" wrote in message
.. .
NOYB wrote:


"____m___~¿Ô___m____" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction

issue -
and
we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if a

month
from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."

That must have been the "high ranking government offical" who's hiding

them
at this very moment.


Hehehe. It was John Kerry on Hardball with Chris Matthews Tuesday

night.

Who is Chris Matthews?
What station?


You're kidding, right? He worked for several Presidential administrations,
and is one of the top news talk show hosts in the country...on MSNBC.

I missed it.
I didn't intend to plagiarize a quote.
I would gladly give recognition where due.

Oh well..........I must not be the only one with this thought then.


Huh?



John Smith April 29th 04 10:38 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
great reply. Keep up the good work

"____m___~¿Ô___m____" wrote in message
. ..
John Smith wrote:

As he slowly trolls, all the fish come into view, fighting each other to
grab his lure.


"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
To quote a high-ranking government official quoted on 4/27/04:

"It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue -
and we may yet find them...Look, I want to make it clear. Who knows if

a
month from now, three months from now, you find some weapons? You may."





If everthing that of any value, that a "top poster" wrote was put to

paper.
It could be folded up,,,, stuck up a fleas ass,,,, and it would roll

around
like a BB in a boxcar.
--
__________m___~¿Ô___m____________________________




NOYB April 29th 04 10:41 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...


Should we invade there next or should it be Iran?

Probably Iran, since they're closest to developing nukes. There may not


be

a need to hit Saudi Arabia militarily if we're able to isolate them from


the

rest of the Middle East.



Hit Saudi Arabia....pant...pant.....pant....I don't have words to

describe
how HOT HOT HOT you sound when you talk macho like that, with those sexy
action verbs. Not unlike President "Bring 'Em On". I have to go get some
fresh air.....



Would you like to

send your children?

Of course I wouldn't like it. However, my kids are 4 1/2, 2 1/2 and 1


years

old. I'd prefer we deal with the radical Islamics now rather than in 13
years when my oldest is draft age...*AND* those same countries have

nukes.




I have news for you, hot boy: If we keep dealing with the world in our
current fashion, we'll have the same problems when your kids are old

enough
to be drafted.



Perhaps the next target will be in SW Florida, where knobs-for-brains
lives.


Harry,
You've been wishing a terrorist strike down here for awhile. As much as you
and I disagree, I'd never wish that on you nor any another American.




Son of Spam April 29th 04 10:45 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
"Joe" wrote in message ...
"jps" wrote in message
...

Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps


They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.


That is yet to be determined. The only positive identification of the
chemicals I have seen stated that a "large portion" of the mix was
just sulfuric acid, which seems to indicate that the attackers simply
wanted to contaminate the area with toxic chemicals.


An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.


That claim is ridiculous at face value. By comparison, the Bhopal
tragedy involved 40 tons of pure cyanide, an honest-to-god chemical
weapon, and only killed 20,000 people.

John Smith April 29th 04 11:11 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
NYOB,
That is because you are a compassionate individual. Harry on the other
hand, is an insecure old fart who is insecure and wishes ill will on all who
disagree with him.


"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...


Should we invade there next or should it be Iran?

Probably Iran, since they're closest to developing nukes. There may

not

be

a need to hit Saudi Arabia militarily if we're able to isolate them

from

the

rest of the Middle East.


Hit Saudi Arabia....pant...pant.....pant....I don't have words to

describe
how HOT HOT HOT you sound when you talk macho like that, with those

sexy
action verbs. Not unlike President "Bring 'Em On". I have to go get

some
fresh air.....



Would you like to

send your children?

Of course I wouldn't like it. However, my kids are 4 1/2, 2 1/2 and 1

years

old. I'd prefer we deal with the radical Islamics now rather than in

13
years when my oldest is draft age...*AND* those same countries have

nukes.




I have news for you, hot boy: If we keep dealing with the world in our
current fashion, we'll have the same problems when your kids are old

enough
to be drafted.



Perhaps the next target will be in SW Florida, where knobs-for-brains
lives.


Harry,
You've been wishing a terrorist strike down here for awhile. As much as

you
and I disagree, I'd never wish that on you nor any another American.






____m___~¿Ô___m____ April 29th 04 11:12 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
NOYB wrote:


You're kidding, right? He worked for several Presidential
administrations, and is one of the top news talk show hosts in the
country.


Well, he never made a great impression on me.

..on MSNBC.


That's why I will keep missing him.
Of course I don't watch the cartoon network either.
I just don't get the humor on either one.
--
_______m___õ¿~___m_________________________
"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take,
but by the moments that take our breath away".
--George Carlin--


Harry Krause April 29th 04 11:39 PM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Doug Kanter wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
thlink.net...



Should we invade there next or should it be Iran?

Probably Iran, since they're closest to developing nukes. There may not

be


a need to hit Saudi Arabia militarily if we're able to isolate them from

the


rest of the Middle East.


Hit Saudi Arabia....pant...pant.....pant....I don't have words to


describe

how HOT HOT HOT you sound when you talk macho like that, with those sexy
action verbs. Not unlike President "Bring 'Em On". I have to go get some
fresh air.....




Would you like to


send your children?

Of course I wouldn't like it. However, my kids are 4 1/2, 2 1/2 and 1

years


old. I'd prefer we deal with the radical Islamics now rather than in 13
years when my oldest is draft age...*AND* those same countries have


nukes.



I have news for you, hot boy: If we keep dealing with the world in our
current fashion, we'll have the same problems when your kids are old


enough

to be drafted.



Perhaps the next target will be in SW Florida, where knobs-for-brains
lives.



Harry,
You've been wishing a terrorist strike down here for awhile. As much as you
and I disagree, I'd never wish that on you nor any another American.




You need some instruction in language. I'm not wishing anything. I feel
in my gut we are going to be attacked again by terrorists, and *if* it
does, I think it should be in "Bush Country," rather than in the more
civilized parts of the nation. Let the Bush supporters feel the pain
next time, eh?

NOYB April 30th 04 01:02 AM

OT--WMD's may still be found
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Doug Kanter wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
thlink.net...



Should we invade there next or should it be Iran?

Probably Iran, since they're closest to developing nukes. There may

not

be


a need to hit Saudi Arabia militarily if we're able to isolate them

from

the


rest of the Middle East.


Hit Saudi Arabia....pant...pant.....pant....I don't have words to


describe

how HOT HOT HOT you sound when you talk macho like that, with those

sexy
action verbs. Not unlike President "Bring 'Em On". I have to go get

some
fresh air.....




Would you like to


send your children?

Of course I wouldn't like it. However, my kids are 4 1/2, 2 1/2 and 1

years


old. I'd prefer we deal with the radical Islamics now rather than in

13
years when my oldest is draft age...*AND* those same countries have


nukes.



I have news for you, hot boy: If we keep dealing with the world in our
current fashion, we'll have the same problems when your kids are old


enough

to be drafted.



Perhaps the next target will be in SW Florida, where knobs-for-brains
lives.



Harry,
You've been wishing a terrorist strike down here for awhile. As much as

you
and I disagree, I'd never wish that on you nor any another American.




You need some instruction in language. I'm not wishing anything. I feel
in my gut we are going to be attacked again by terrorists, and *if* it
does, I think it should be in "Bush Country," rather than in the more
civilized parts of the nation.


"More civilized parts"? LOL. You're a piece of work...




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