"jps" wrote in message
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Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?

"Joe" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read the
message again, slowly this time.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read the
message again, slowly this time.



I could care less whether or not he thinks the OC bomb was a WMD.
My beef is with his statement that the Jordan bomb was not a WMD.

He is trying to downplay the significance of the thwarted Jordan bomb by
comparing it to a simple fertilizer bomb as used in OC.
The sole purpose of the explosives in *this* bomb was to spread the
chemicals and nerve agents as far as possible, to kill as many as possible.
The Jordan bomb is a WMD.

"Joe" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large
quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read
the
message again, slowly this time.



I could care less whether or not he thinks the OC bomb was a WMD.
My beef is with his statement that the Jordan bomb was not a WMD.

He is trying to downplay the significance of the thwarted Jordan bomb by
comparing it to a simple fertilizer bomb as used in OC.
The sole purpose of the explosives in *this* bomb was to spread the
chemicals and nerve agents as far as possible, to kill as many as
possible.
The Jordan bomb is a WMD.

Absolutely it was a WMD. However, the point of the Jordanian story was that
one of the terrorists admitted to have trained in Iraq *BEFORE THE US
INVASION*.

Nevertheless, I've read several reports that stated VX was one of the
components of the bombs.

"Joe" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large
quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read
the
message again, slowly this time.



I could care less whether or not he thinks the OC bomb was a WMD.
My beef is with his statement that the Jordan bomb was not a WMD.

He is trying to downplay the significance of the thwarted Jordan bomb by
comparing it to a simple fertilizer bomb as used in OC.
The sole purpose of the explosives in *this* bomb was to spread the
chemicals and nerve agents as far as possible, to kill as many as
possible.
The Jordan bomb is a WMD.



I believe what he meant was that you can't point your finger at a commonly
available chemical and claim it's in the same category as chemical and
nuclear weapons. Of course, you could say that fertilizer-based bombs and
nuclear warheads both go "boom", but so do tanker trucks full of gasoline.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read the
message again, slowly this time.

I said "chemical bombs"...not WMD. jps added the WMD as a red herring to
divert the argument away from its most important point...that Saddam's
people and al Qaeda had been and have been working together for quite some
time.

In article k.net,
says...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.
80,000 dead not enough for you to considerer this bomb a WMD?



He didn't claim that the OKC bomb wasn't a "WMD". Sit closer and read the
message again, slowly this time.

I said "chemical bombs"...not WMD. jps added the WMD as a red herring to
divert the argument away from its most important point...that Saddam's
people and al Qaeda had been and have been working together for quite some
time.

In your little fantasy world, which you apparently share with President
Bush.

"Joe" wrote in message ...
"jps" wrote in message
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Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

That is yet to be determined. The only positive identification of the
chemicals I have seen stated that a "large portion" of the mix was
just sulfuric acid, which seems to indicate that the attackers simply
wanted to contaminate the area with toxic chemicals.


An est. 80,000 people would have died, the vast majority from chemical
exposure.

That claim is ridiculous at face value. By comparison, the Bhopal
tragedy involved 40 tons of pure cyanide, an honest-to-god chemical
weapon, and only killed 20,000 people.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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Not WMDs, fertilizer bombs. Ingredients available in large quantities
worldwide. The same variety that took 160 innocent men, women and
children's lives in Oklahoma City by one of our own.

jps

They were not "fertilizer bombs" as used in Oklahoma City.
There was nerve gas in the mix.

That is yet to be determined. The only positive identification of the
chemicals I have seen stated that a "large portion" of the mix was
just sulfuric acid, which seems to indicate that the attackers simply
wanted to contaminate the area with toxic chemicals.

My ex-neighbor is a fireman. He was trained to deal with chemicals like
that. This guy's an idiot and HE could handle it. I'd be real surprised if
sulfuric acid could create the kind of Armageddon our government makes it
out to be.