"John Smith" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
If she is performing her duties as a therapist, and is not
performing her responsibility as a doctor, she doesn't need her
licenses on
the wall.

These are mutally exclusive to you, eh, dunderhead?

Nope, not to me, you are the one who stated she didn't want to be put on a
pedestal and did not want to be considered a doctor, she wanted to be
considered a therapist. I know many doctors who liked to be called by
their
first name, but I have never heard of a doctor who wants to be considered
a
therapist or anything less than he has study for. Anyone who would
believe
that fantasy needs the help of a real doctor.

Interesting. I always address my excelent internist as Dr. Kerper. He always
corrects me and says "It's Bob". His diploma from Yale is hanging right on
the wall behind him the whole time. What's going on here?

Can you imagine a spouse who would call their spouse who was a doctor a
paramedic?

Yes, in the past their was a major stigma for anyone to admit to have a
mental health problem, but that stigma covered all mental health providers.
Those who buy into the stigma do not feel any better having a mental health
problem or having to ask for help, if the provider is a doctor or a
therapist.

If you want to believe Harry's imaginary world, feel free.

Anyone who really wanted to verify if Harry's wife is a doctor would be able
to do a search of doctors in Maryland and see if their is a female doctor by
the name of Krause whose specialty is psychiatry. I would not bother
because I know it is a lie.




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"John Smith" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message

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John Smith wrote:
If she is performing her duties as a therapist, and is not
performing her responsibility as a doctor, she doesn't need her
licenses on
the wall.

These are mutally exclusive to you, eh, dunderhead?

Nope, not to me, you are the one who stated she didn't want to be put on
a
pedestal and did not want to be considered a doctor, she wanted to be
considered a therapist. I know many doctors who liked to be called by
their
first name, but I have never heard of a doctor who wants to be
considered
a
therapist or anything less than he has study for. Anyone who would
believe
that fantasy needs the help of a real doctor.

Interesting. I always address my excelent internist as Dr. Kerper. He
always
corrects me and says "It's Bob". His diploma from Yale is hanging right on
the wall behind him the whole time. What's going on here?

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Can you imagine a spouse who would call their spouse who was a doctor a
paramedic?

Yes, in the past their was a major stigma for anyone to admit to have a
mental health problem, but that stigma covered all mental health
providers.
Those who buy into the stigma do not feel any better having a mental
health
problem or having to ask for help, if the provider is a doctor or a
therapist.

If you want to believe Harry's imaginary world, feel free.

Anyone who really wanted to verify if Harry's wife is a doctor would be
able
to do a search of doctors in Maryland and see if their is a female doctor
by
the name of Krause whose specialty is psychiatry. I would not bother
because I know it is a lie.

You know it's a lie....how? Your research methods fascinate me.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Can you imagine a spouse who would call their spouse who was a doctor a
paramedic?

Yes, in the past their was a major stigma for anyone to admit to have a
mental health problem, but that stigma covered all mental health
providers.
Those who buy into the stigma do not feel any better having a mental
health
problem or having to ask for help, if the provider is a doctor or a
therapist.

If you want to believe Harry's imaginary world, feel free.

Anyone who really wanted to verify if Harry's wife is a doctor would be
able
to do a search of doctors in Maryland and see if their is a female
doctor
by
the name of Krause whose specialty is psychiatry. I would not bother
because I know it is a lie.

You know it's a lie....how? Your research methods fascinate me.



If his wife was a psychiatrist, he would call her that. Being a
psychotherapist does not require a Ph.D., and being a psychiatrist does
require an MD. So at the most she has a doctorate in psychology. And
reading all the other lies he states, I believe nada on the wife.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Can you imagine a spouse who would call their spouse who was a doctor
a
paramedic?

Yes, in the past their was a major stigma for anyone to admit to have
a
mental health problem, but that stigma covered all mental health
providers.
Those who buy into the stigma do not feel any better having a mental
health
problem or having to ask for help, if the provider is a doctor or a
therapist.

If you want to believe Harry's imaginary world, feel free.

Anyone who really wanted to verify if Harry's wife is a doctor would
be
able
to do a search of doctors in Maryland and see if their is a female
doctor
by
the name of Krause whose specialty is psychiatry. I would not bother
because I know it is a lie.

You know it's a lie....how? Your research methods fascinate me.



If his wife was a psychiatrist, he would call her that. Being a
psychotherapist does not require a Ph.D., and being a psychiatrist does
require an MD. So at the most she has a doctorate in psychology. And
reading all the other lies he states, I believe nada on the wife.


I guess my internist's not an internist, because 99% of the time, I refer to
him as a doctor, or just Bob. Incidentally, in the academic world,
psychiatrists are referred to as psychotherapists, therapists,
practitioners, and a host of other names. I guess it doesn't matter to
people who know what they're talking about.

Doug, you seem to know more than the people in the mental health profession:
Attacked are the differences between Psychologist and Psychiatrist. While
you often have Psychologist who use the prefix Dr. to acknowledge their PHD,
I don't believe you can find any Psychiatrist who would refer to themselves
as a Psychologist, just as your internist would never refer to himself as a
paramedic.

The internet is full of info about Psychologist and Psychiatrist, can you
show me one Psychiatrist who refers to themselves as a Psychologist? I
know it hard to see your king cut down in his prime, but it is time to
acknowledge that your king is not wearing any clothes.

"Psychologists and Psychological Associates study the behavior, emotions,
and thinking processes of humans to better understand their behavior. They
are trained to assess, diagnose and treat mental disorders by using
individual, child, family and group therapies. Psychologists may teach,
conduct research, or serve as consultants or therapists. Psychological
Associates generally work under the supervision of a Psychologist.



Psychologists may specialize in a particular area. For example, clinical
psychologists may work with physicians in counseling emotionally disturbed
individuals, medical and surgical patients, and chronically ill patients.
Counseling psychologists advise patients o*n how to cope with everyday
issues and help to resolve personal problems. Examples of other areas of
specialization include community psychology, developmental psychology and
social psychology.
Psychologists may also work with students in schools to evaluate academic
skills, learning aptitudes, social skills, self-help skills, personality and
emotional development. School psychologists determine eligibility for
special service programs and work directly with students or families to help
solve conflicts and problems related to learning and adjustment. They
provide counseling, social skills training, behavior management, and other
interventions to help families deal with difficult crises such as separation
or loss.

Psychologists also work in hospitals, correctional institutions, mental
health clinics, private practices, public schools and universities, and with
government agencies and tribal health organizations. "

A psychiatrist is a physician who specializes in the diagnosis, treatment
and prevention of mental illnesses and emotional problems. Because of
extensive medical training, the psychiatrist understands the body's
functions and the complex relationship between emotional illness and other
medical illnesses. The psychiatrist is thus the mental health professional
and physician best qualified to distinguish between physical and
psychological causes of both mental and physical distress.
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Can you imagine a spouse who would call their spouse who was a
doctor
a
paramedic?

Yes, in the past their was a major stigma for anyone to admit to
have
a
mental health problem, but that stigma covered all mental health
providers.
Those who buy into the stigma do not feel any better having a mental
health
problem or having to ask for help, if the provider is a doctor or a
therapist.

If you want to believe Harry's imaginary world, feel free.

Anyone who really wanted to verify if Harry's wife is a doctor would
be
able
to do a search of doctors in Maryland and see if their is a female
doctor
by
the name of Krause whose specialty is psychiatry. I would not
bother
because I know it is a lie.

You know it's a lie....how? Your research methods fascinate me.



If his wife was a psychiatrist, he would call her that. Being a
psychotherapist does not require a Ph.D., and being a psychiatrist does
require an MD. So at the most she has a doctorate in psychology. And
reading all the other lies he states, I believe nada on the wife.


I guess my internist's not an internist, because 99% of the time, I refer
to
him as a doctor, or just Bob. Incidentally, in the academic world,
psychiatrists are referred to as psychotherapists, therapists,
practitioners, and a host of other names. I guess it doesn't matter to
people who know what they're talking about.

That is a bad reference to use here... I once had a computer tech working
for me that claimed to be a Paramedic.... Turned out he was a paramedic.

"John Smith" wrote in message
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just as your internist would never refer to himself as a
paramedic.

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Doug, you seem to know more than the people in the mental health
profession:
Attacked are the differences between Psychologist and Psychiatrist. While
you often have Psychologist who use the prefix Dr. to acknowledge their
PHD,
I don't believe you can find any Psychiatrist who would refer to
themselves
as a Psychologist, just as your internist would never refer to himself as
a
paramedic.

I did not say a psychiatrist would refer to herself as a psychologist. I
said "psychotherapist". Sit closer to the monitor.

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Can you imagine a spouse who would call their spouse who was a doctor

a

paramedic?

Yes, in the past their was a major stigma for anyone to admit to have

a

mental health problem, but that stigma covered all mental health

providers.

Those who buy into the stigma do not feel any better having a mental

health

problem or having to ask for help, if the provider is a doctor or a
therapist.

If you want to believe Harry's imaginary world, feel free.

Anyone who really wanted to verify if Harry's wife is a doctor would

be

able

to do a search of doctors in Maryland and see if their is a female

doctor

by

the name of Krause whose specialty is psychiatry. I would not bother
because I know it is a lie.

You know it's a lie....how? Your research methods fascinate me.



If his wife was a psychiatrist, he would call her that. Being a
psychotherapist does not require a Ph.D., and being a psychiatrist does
require an MD. So at the most she has a doctorate in psychology. And
reading all the other lies he states, I believe nada on the wife.



I guess my internist's not an internist, because 99% of the time, I refer to
him as a doctor, or just Bob. Incidentally, in the academic world,
psychiatrists are referred to as psychotherapists, therapists,
practitioners, and a host of other names. I guess it doesn't matter to
people who know what they're talking about.



Just FYI, and to further the actual knowledge base a little, the number
of psychologists who actually have a therapy practice is diminishing.
More and more, those psychologists who are "practicing" are doing it as
designers and facilitators of psychological tests.

Patients who seek help in a progressive hospital setting usually are
treated by a treament team. In most cases, the psychiatrist-physician
conducts an initial exam, then prescribes meds, and then meets
occasionally with the patient but mostly with the treatment team. On
that team typically is an LCSW who leads the therapy, psych nurses who
also provide therapy, psych techs, who keep an eye on the patients and
get them from once place another, occupational therapists and other
consulting therapist who try to put Humpty Dumpty back together again,

A private therapy setting is different. Usually, the psychiatrist,
working with licensed folk, provides the therapy, and the latter usually
work with family members, and family issues. But there really are no
rules on how a practice should be run, other than the legal and ethical
issues.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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A private therapy setting is different. Usually, the psychiatrist,
working with licensed folk, provides the therapy, and the latter usually
work with family members, and family issues. But there really are no
rules on how a practice should be run, other than the legal and ethical
issues.

Each doctor may operate his practice differently, but I don't think you will
find one psychiatrist who calls himself a therapist so his patients will
feel better about talking to them. It is funny watching you squirm when you
are caught at your fabrications.