"DSK" wrote in message news:VRygc.27838

I hope that none of the people here were in that fishing boat. I also
hope that this will be a lesson to some of those who don't already know
not to anchor in a channel.

No amount of diplomatic talk will alleviate stupidity and selfishness in
adults. People like that need their asses kicked, plain and simple.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message news:VRygc.27838

I hope that none of the people here were in that fishing boat. I also
hope that this will be a lesson to some of those who don't already know
not to anchor in a channel.

No amount of diplomatic talk will alleviate stupidity and selfishness in
adults. People like that need their asses kicked, plain and simple.



Actually, the best is when they lose their house and other assets to pay for
the time lost and damages and then the word is publicized. Maybe then the
work will get out.
Bill

Doug King wrote:
I hope that none of the people here were in that fishing boat. I also
hope that this will be a lesson to some of those who don't already know
not to anchor in a channel.


"John Gaquin" wrote
No amount of diplomatic talk will alleviate stupidity and selfishness in
adults. People like that need their asses kicked, plain and simple.



Calif Bill wrote:
Actually, the best is when they lose their house and other assets to pay for
the time lost and damages and then the word is publicized. Maybe then the
work will get out.

Maybe both. But it wouldn't have been an ass kicking, these guys out
fishing could have died, right there right then, less than 100 yards
from shore on a calm day. And while it would probably have served them
right, I tried to warn them and that barge skipper probably sacrificed
his job for them.

Unfortunately, I know of many incidents wherein the need to avoid
recreational boaters has caused delay and damage to commercial shipping.
We all pay for this in increased prices and increased insurance, but I
don't know of a single incident where the recreational boater at fault
was made to pay. In one episode I know of (at the Chesapeake Bay Bridge
a couple years ago) the idiot boaters at fault were photographed, proud
and smiling, for several news publications. They clearly had no clue
what they had done.

Regards
Doug King

"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"DSK" wrote in message news:VRygc.27838

I hope that none of the people here were in that fishing boat. I also
hope that this will be a lesson to some of those who don't already know
not to anchor in a channel.

No amount of diplomatic talk will alleviate stupidity and selfishness in
adults. People like that need their asses kicked, plain and simple.

Yes, that would be an intelligent way of dealing with people.

Is there a VTS in that channel in North Carolina?

Or the 30-foot channel with the idiot sailor?
(Who sounds like he needs to stay in little ditches, lacking the common sense
required to get any farther from shore than he could easily swim)



Not that rules prevent stupidity, and there is a difference between being right
and being dead right, but.....

(from memory-----gist is correct) No vessel under 20m and no vessel under sail
shall impede a power driven vessel operating in
a traffic control scheme.

Fishermen often use the same incorrect argument in these cases that sailors
often
use; the rules do give fishing priority status.....but "fishing" is furhter
diefined in a manner that clearly limits the rule to boats fishing with nets or
other cumbersome equipment, (not rod and reel sportsmen).

Same thing with the classic stereotype of
a brainless sailor in the traffic lanes, sailing his 24-footer under the bow of
a container ship and hollering about his "right of way". A little, incomplete
knowledge is a dangerous thing.

If there is an established VTS, both the sailor and the fishermen were
absolutely wrong without the least defense available to them through the Rules.

If there's barge traffic in the one location, there may be a VTS. The 30-foot
channel?
Less likely.

There are rules against sailing in most marinas, where fairways are typically
at least twice as wide as the 30-foot channel reported here. The rule of common
sense should have inspired the sailor to do otherwise.

The Rules were never intended as a license for sailors to deliberately annoy
or endanger powerboaters.

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:18:24 +0000, Gould 0738 wrote:


Same thing with the classic stereotype of a brainless sailor in the
traffic lanes, sailing his 24-footer under the bow of a container ship and
hollering about his "right of way". A little, incomplete knowledge is a
dangerous thing.

Something like this:

https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/schramm/ww...-02000154-.jpg


That site has a collection of wipeouts of the racing variety.

https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/schramm/www/sailing/wipeout/