On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:20:27 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:52:29 -0400, "Don"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:15:23 -0400, "Don"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote
Right, which is why someone who is as concerned about crop damage as
you are, would be well advised to take preventative measure, such as
erecting a fence. Don't rely on everyone else to protect your
investment. You have as much (if not more) responsibility to keep
your
valuables away from harm.

Was this clipped from the Marxist manifesto? Seriously.....LOL

You really need to study marxism and socialism. Seriously.......

If you think that personal responsibility is a socialist trait, you
are really out there......

There's something wrong with this boys circuit board.
Hey Dave, if your neighbor can't keep himself out of your yard it is not
your responsibility to put up a fence, now is it?

If someone (or many someones) makes a habit of cutting across your
lawn (Many kids do that as they are too lazy to go around the block),
you have basically 4 options:

1. Lie in wait to catch each and every kid, each and every time they
do it. You can then berate them and threaten them, and pretty much
guarantee that your house will be egged by the next mischief night.

2. You could complain to the cops, who would have to also catch them
in the act to "do something" about it.

3. You could become an anarchistic, anti-social lunatic and shoot
them.

4. You could put up a fence which effective bars their ability to
trespass.

Now, which one do you think will be ultimately the most effective?
Which one would most likely lead to legal trouble for you (not that
you'd care)?



Dave

You can also use their t-shirts as handles to escort the kids back to their
parents and discuss the issue with them.

I would file that under #1 above. Have you had to deal with some
parents lately? I don't know about in your area, but when I was
growing up and another adult lodged a complaint about me, it was taken
as gospel truth and I was immediately and severely punished. Today, if
you go to a parent to complain about their kid, they cop a "My kid's a
angel, you must be mistaken" attitude.

My next door neighbor, in my old neighborhood, had two kids who made a
habit of migrating to my yard to play their various sports, since my
yard was clear and significantly larger. I had to shoe them away on
almost a daily basis. One day, when I came home and found them playing
yet again, I drove up on the yard with my truck and chased them, in
the hope that they'd now think I was crazy and fear to return. I also
yelled after them and I used some words which I probably shouldn't
have. But I was ****ed. That was many years ago, before I learned how
to effectively manage anger.

The next thing I know, the kids' dad comes over to give me a tongue
lashing. And, get this, he wasn't so upset that I had chased them away
with my truck. He was upset with the words that I used. When I told
him that I didn't want them on my yard, he denied that they were
there. I was floored. I asked him how was it then that I was in the
position to chase them down with my truck and shout after them if they
weren't there? Needless to say, this conversation didn't accomplish
much. In fact I would frequently catch not only the kids, but the
father joining in for games on my yard. The problem was finally solved
when I called the police and had them give him a talking to.

Maybe I should've shot them all huh? Oh, wait, that's only an option
if they are dogs right?

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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You can also use their t-shirts as handles to escort the kids back to
their
parents and discuss the issue with them.

I would file that under #1 above. Have you had to deal with some
parents lately? I don't know about in your area, but when I was
growing up and another adult lodged a complaint about me, it was taken
as gospel truth and I was immediately and severely punished. Today, if
you go to a parent to complain about their kid, they cop a "My kid's a
angel, you must be mistaken" attitude.

My next door neighbor, in my old neighborhood, had two kids who made a
habit of migrating to my yard to play their various sports, since my
yard was clear and significantly larger. I had to shoe them away on
almost a daily basis. One day, when I came home and found them playing
yet again, I drove up on the yard with my truck and chased them, in
the hope that they'd now think I was crazy and fear to return. I also
yelled after them and I used some words which I probably shouldn't
have. But I was ****ed. That was many years ago, before I learned how
to effectively manage anger.

The next thing I know, the kids' dad comes over to give me a tongue
lashing. And, get this, he wasn't so upset that I had chased them away
with my truck. He was upset with the words that I used. When I told
him that I didn't want them on my yard, he denied that they were
there. I was floored. I asked him how was it then that I was in the
position to chase them down with my truck and shout after them if they
weren't there? Needless to say, this conversation didn't accomplish
much. In fact I would frequently catch not only the kids, but the
father joining in for games on my yard. The problem was finally solved
when I called the police and had them give him a talking to.

Maybe I should've shot them all huh? Oh, wait, that's only an option
if they are dogs right?

Dave

Why didn't you want those kids in your yard?

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:13:30 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .


You can also use their t-shirts as handles to escort the kids back to
their
parents and discuss the issue with them.

I would file that under #1 above. Have you had to deal with some
parents lately? I don't know about in your area, but when I was
growing up and another adult lodged a complaint about me, it was taken
as gospel truth and I was immediately and severely punished. Today, if
you go to a parent to complain about their kid, they cop a "My kid's a
angel, you must be mistaken" attitude.

My next door neighbor, in my old neighborhood, had two kids who made a
habit of migrating to my yard to play their various sports, since my
yard was clear and significantly larger. I had to shoe them away on
almost a daily basis. One day, when I came home and found them playing
yet again, I drove up on the yard with my truck and chased them, in
the hope that they'd now think I was crazy and fear to return. I also
yelled after them and I used some words which I probably shouldn't
have. But I was ****ed. That was many years ago, before I learned how
to effectively manage anger.

The next thing I know, the kids' dad comes over to give me a tongue
lashing. And, get this, he wasn't so upset that I had chased them away
with my truck. He was upset with the words that I used. When I told
him that I didn't want them on my yard, he denied that they were
there. I was floored. I asked him how was it then that I was in the
position to chase them down with my truck and shout after them if they
weren't there? Needless to say, this conversation didn't accomplish
much. In fact I would frequently catch not only the kids, but the
father joining in for games on my yard. The problem was finally solved
when I called the police and had them give him a talking to.

Maybe I should've shot them all huh? Oh, wait, that's only an option
if they are dogs right?

Dave

Why didn't you want those kids in your yard?

Ah, here it comes.........

Well, why not, you're entertaining if nothing else....

I didn't want them for a multitude of reasons.

In today's liberal mindset of responsibility deflection, I can get
sued if one of these little miscreants plays on my yard and then hurts
himself.

Then there is the wear and tear on my yard. Not that I'm a yard geek,
but I don't want spots of bare ground corresponding to the bases in a
baseball diamond showing through.

Then there is the chance that an errant fly ball will hit some piece
of my "stuff" and cause damage.

Then there was the fact that I just didn't like those smart ass sneaky
kids. Kids who had a bit more respect might have gotten a little more
leniency.

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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Maybe I should've shot them all huh? Oh, wait, that's only an option
if they are dogs right?

Dave

Why didn't you want those kids in your yard?

Ah, here it comes.........

Well, why not, you're entertaining if nothing else....

I didn't want them for a multitude of reasons.


Then there is the wear and tear on my yard. Not that I'm a yard geek,
but I don't want spots of bare ground corresponding to the bases in a
baseball diamond showing through.

You should lighten up, Dave. Lots of people put up with a little bit of wear
on their lawns. It's even less of a problem than dog ****, or a damaged row
of 1" high lettuce seedlings that you won't have a chance to plant again
until next spring.

On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:04:33 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .


Maybe I should've shot them all huh? Oh, wait, that's only an option
if they are dogs right?

Dave

Why didn't you want those kids in your yard?

Ah, here it comes.........

Well, why not, you're entertaining if nothing else....

I didn't want them for a multitude of reasons.


Then there is the wear and tear on my yard. Not that I'm a yard geek,
but I don't want spots of bare ground corresponding to the bases in a
baseball diamond showing through.

You should lighten up, Dave. Lots of people put up with a little bit of wear
on their lawns. It's even less of a problem than dog ****, or a damaged row
of 1" high lettuce seedlings that you won't have a chance to plant again
until next spring.

What, no comment on the liability aspect? You are transparently
selective when it comes to what you respond to.

Ironically, one of my "defenses" against these little miscreants was
to tie the dog up in that area. Then when the little "tykes" tried to
play ball, they were stepping in all sorts of "poop". Nothing like a
face first slide into first with a pile in your path.........

Dave