It seems like cam cleats would be nice to use to hang fenders from the
boat. Stick the line in the cam cleat "too long", then pull on the end
to zip it up backwards until the fender is at the correct height for
the boat/pier/rub rail, then let go, the teeth gripping the line to
prevent the fender from going lower.

I have found two great products:

http://www.schaefermarine.com/hardware.asp (Go to Deck Hardware then
Sure Grip)

and

http://www.harkenstore.com/uniface.urd/SCCYSPW1

I emailed a tech support guy at Schafer and he says that this
arrangement does not work, the fender line tending to get out of the
grip of the teeth.

Anyone want to contradict that, has used cam cleats in this
application?

Mitch

"MVG" wrote in message
oups.com...
It seems like cam cleats would be nice to use to hang fenders from the
boat. Stick the line in the cam cleat "too long", then pull on the end
to zip it up backwards until the fender is at the correct height for
the boat/pier/rub rail, then let go, the teeth gripping the line to
prevent the fender from going lower.

I have found two great products:

http://www.schaefermarine.com/hardware.asp (Go to Deck Hardware then
Sure Grip)

and

http://www.harkenstore.com/uniface.urd/SCCYSPW1

I emailed a tech support guy at Schafer and he says that this
arrangement does not work, the fender line tending to get out of the
grip of the teeth.

Anyone want to contradict that, has used cam cleats in this
application?

Mitch


Why not just hang the fender directly from the cleat?

The expert at Schafer is correct, the lateral stress place on the fender as
the boat moves back and forth will cause the line to pop out of the cam
cleat.

As a general rule, when a manufacture tells you his product will not work,
it probably won't.



"MVG" wrote in message
oups.com...
It seems like cam cleats would be nice to use to hang fenders from the
boat. Stick the line in the cam cleat "too long", then pull on the end
to zip it up backwards until the fender is at the correct height for
the boat/pier/rub rail, then let go, the teeth gripping the line to
prevent the fender from going lower.

I have found two great products:

http://www.schaefermarine.com/hardware.asp (Go to Deck Hardware then
Sure Grip)

and

http://www.harkenstore.com/uniface.urd/SCCYSPW1

I emailed a tech support guy at Schafer and he says that this
arrangement does not work, the fender line tending to get out of the
grip of the teeth.

Anyone want to contradict that, has used cam cleats in this
application?

Mitch

MVG wrote:
It seems like cam cleats would be nice to use to hang fenders from the
boat. Stick the line in the cam cleat "too long", then pull on the end
to zip it up backwards until the fender is at the correct height for
the boat/pier/rub rail, then let go, the teeth gripping the line to
prevent the fender from going lower.


Problem: The fenders don't hang nice & straight at all times. All you
have to do is pull the fender slighlty above the axis of the cam cleat,
and the line pops out.

That's why cam cleats are very popular for things like mainsheets on
sailboats, which need to be easily released in gusts. But not so good
for tasks like hanging fenders... no doubt this is why the manufacturers
(honest fellows!) told you it wasn't such a good idea.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"MVG" wrote in message oups.com...
It seems like cam cleats would be nice to use to hang fenders from the
boat. Stick the line in the cam cleat "too long", then pull on the end
to zip it up backwards until the fender is at the correct height for
the boat/pier/rub rail, then let go, the teeth gripping the line to
prevent the fender from going lower.

I have found two great products:

http://www.schaefermarine.com/hardware.asp (Go to Deck Hardware then
Sure Grip)

and

http://www.harkenstore.com/uniface.urd/SCCYSPW1

I emailed a tech support guy at Schafer and he says that this
arrangement does not work, the fender line tending to get out of the
grip of the teeth.

Anyone want to contradict that, has used cam cleats in this
application?

Mitch


I love it when people use clam cleats to hang their fenders.

It means there will be lots of nice fenders in the mangroves
I can salvage.

CN

On 5 Jun 2005 15:00:07 -0700, "MVG" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

I emailed a tech support guy at Schafer and he says that this
arrangement does not work, the fender line tending to get out of the
grip of the teeth.

Get the hint? :)

Everybody else has pretty much told you why it shouldn't be done, but
I'm here to tell you, from practical experience, that it won't work.

I'd rather not say how my bright idea about cam cleats came about, but
I will say I had some repairs to make when it didn't work.

Later,

Tom

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:33:22 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 5 Jun 2005 15:00:07 -0700, "MVG" wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

I emailed a tech support guy at Schafer and he says that this
arrangement does not work, the fender line tending to get out of the
grip of the teeth.

Get the hint? :)

Everybody else has pretty much told you why it shouldn't be done, but
I'm here to tell you, from practical experience, that it won't work.

I'd rather not say how my bright idea about cam cleats came about, but
I will say I had some repairs to make when it didn't work.

By the way, I did eventually come up with a method to keep the damn
lines from popping out of the cam cleat, but it wasn't worth the
effort or the time spent in a machine shop to modify the cleat.

Besides, as JimH said, it's simple enough to adjust fenders on a
regular cleat - you aren't saving any time doing otherwise.

Later,

Tom

I reached the other manufacturer of cam cleats and she was all
surprised, said that theirs are used all the time for hanging fenders.

Anyway, the key benefit of the cam cleat for this is you hang the
fender "too low" for the pier you're approaching, then zip it up to the
correct hieght when you get there before the boat touches the pier.
Sure you can pause in the water while you get them right on a
conventional horn cleat, but when you have a boatful of landlubbers
like I always do, with wind, it's not always practical.

MVG