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Thinking of buying new.. am I insane?
Ok so I have a 1997 maxum 20foot ski boat and I am looking to upgrade.
I have moorage on lake washington ( near seattle ) and so most of my time is spent on the lake. I was thinking of buying a cruiser but I have realised a new ski boat is the way for me. So I went down to the dealship and fell in love with the bayliner 225. This was a new model in 2004 and is AWESOME. It's got this fantasic L shaped seating system, and comes with a 260hp fuel injected beast of a engine. 22feet long and a uber wide beam of 9 feet makes it really roomy. but I found a problem, there arent any used available :( So now I am stuck in this mode of actually considering buying new! This seems insane to me since I would take such a depreciation hit.. but it's a boat.. we dont buy these things to make money :) So tell me if I am nuts or since I found the right boat I should just go for it. To put it into perspective my signifigant other who is 100% opposed to upgradeing the boat things the bayliner 225 is fantastic! A little background thread: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...8b5b117c53a804 Let me know what you think! |
What's your ownership style?
If you are a frequent trader who will be looking for another boat within a couple of years, you will indeed take a good whack from depreciation when you trade up. Maybe 20-30%, and could be more. That makes a new boat very expensive on an "avg cost per month of ownership basis". However, if you plan to hang onto the boat for many years depreciation needn't be such a critical concern. Starting with a new boat allows you to avoid wondering what dirty little secrets the previous owner glossed over or concealed, and you will know from day one exactly what type of maintenance the boat receives. Once you iron out the few almost inevitable new boat warranty bugs, you can expect perhaps a few years or so of a blissful time where almost everything is almost always working. That's about as good as it gets in the real world for most boats. Owning a boat makes no economic sense whatsoever, whether it is new or used, unless you somehow use to to earn a living. If this Bayliner 225 is really the boat of your dreams and there is nothing similar available used, I'd personally advise against buying a used boat that you don't like nearly as well simply because it is already partially worn-out (and depreciated). Then there's the SO factor. The "Significant Other". Very important. When we bought our present boat in the early 90's, we made the choice we did because it was among the top 3 prospects on my list (1st, 2nd, and 3rd place seemed to vary depending on daily mood and it was a close contest), but it was clearly NUMERO UNO with the wife. Happy wife makes a happy boat. After all these years I'm still very pleased with our boat and have saved more than we paid for it by not repurchasing another boat every 2-3 years like so many people seem to do. Turns out my wife was pretty smart about picking boats- (too bad about her luck with husbands!) It may make less economic sense to buy new than used, but in a transaction where "economic sense" is never a factor under any circumstance, who cares? |
Go for it. Having a boat you really like and know there are no issues w/
wiring, engine, trim, etc... makes for some great boating pleasure. Money spent on the new boat overcomes maintenance, rework, hassel. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - wrote in message oups.com... Ok so I have a 1997 maxum 20foot ski boat and I am looking to upgrade. I have moorage on lake washington ( near seattle ) and so most of my time is spent on the lake. I was thinking of buying a cruiser but I have realised a new ski boat is the way for me. So I went down to the dealship and fell in love with the bayliner 225. This was a new model in 2004 and is AWESOME. It's got this fantasic L shaped seating system, and comes with a 260hp fuel injected beast of a engine. 22feet long and a uber wide beam of 9 feet makes it really roomy. but I found a problem, there arent any used available :( So now I am stuck in this mode of actually considering buying new! This seems insane to me since I would take such a depreciation hit.. but it's a boat.. we dont buy these things to make money :) So tell me if I am nuts or since I found the right boat I should just go for it. To put it into perspective my signifigant other who is 100% opposed to upgradeing the boat things the bayliner 225 is fantastic! A little background thread: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...8b5b117c53a804 Let me know what you think! |
ya keeping the woman happy would really help here...man it was a
awesome boat.. I can see myself cruising around right now :) ok thanks for the input guys, I will let you know in a few days what I decide to do. First I need to sell my current boat. tony thomas wrote: Go for it. Having a boat you really like and know there are no issues w/ wiring, engine, trim, etc... makes for some great boating pleasure. Money spent on the new boat overcomes maintenance, rework, hassel. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - wrote in message oups.com... Ok so I have a 1997 maxum 20foot ski boat and I am looking to upgrade. I have moorage on lake washington ( near seattle ) and so most of my time is spent on the lake. I was thinking of buying a cruiser but I have realised a new ski boat is the way for me. So I went down to the dealship and fell in love with the bayliner 225. This was a new model in 2004 and is AWESOME. It's got this fantasic L shaped seating system, and comes with a 260hp fuel injected beast of a engine. 22feet long and a uber wide beam of 9 feet makes it really roomy. but I found a problem, there arent any used available :( So now I am stuck in this mode of actually considering buying new! This seems insane to me since I would take such a depreciation hit.. but it's a boat.. we dont buy these things to make money :) So tell me if I am nuts or since I found the right boat I should just go for it. To put it into perspective my signifigant other who is 100% opposed to upgradeing the boat things the bayliner 225 is fantastic! A little background thread: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...8b5b117c53a804 Let me know what you think! |
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"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:zMTfe.67670$r53.23264@attbi_s21... Go for it. Having a boat you really like and know there are no issues w/ wiring, engine, trim, etc... makes for some great boating pleasure. Money spent on the new boat overcomes maintenance, rework, hassel. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - I'm in the same situation and am thinking the same thing. Particularly since the boat I have my eye on is in demand used and has a high resale value (Grady White Sailfish). I am sure a used boat can be a great deal in some cases but the joy of something brand new that you have babied from day 1 is very appealing. -- Peter Aitken |
Well I made a offer and the dealer wouldnt take it.. it's depressing.
The boat was listed for 27K and I offered 25K and they said no. so I guess I will just wait and try to find a used one somewhere.. wish me luck! |
You might hear from the dealer in a day or two if the dealer does not get
any other offers. wrote in message oups.com... Well I made a offer and the dealer wouldnt take it.. it's depressing. The boat was listed for 27K and I offered 25K and they said no. so I guess I will just wait and try to find a used one somewhere.. wish me luck! |
I can only hope! they said it was a low price already and they couldnt
go any lower.. I call bs. |
On Tue, 10 May 2005 19:13:29 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005 11:44:50 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote: I'm in the same situation and am thinking the same thing. Particularly since the boat I have my eye on is in demand used and has a high resale value (Grady White Sailfish). I am sure a used boat can be a great deal in some cases but the joy of something brand new that you have babied from day 1 is very appealing. Nah.... what you need is an Express 360.... Gene, on your site you have a link to grady-white. That link took me to some page that seems to sell everything but boats. Try changing it to http://www.gradywhite.com/ -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Tue, 10 May 2005 19:13:29 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005 11:44:50 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote: I'm in the same situation and am thinking the same thing. Particularly since the boat I have my eye on is in demand used and has a high resale value (Grady White Sailfish). I am sure a used boat can be a great deal in some cases but the joy of something brand new that you have babied from day 1 is very appealing. Nah.... what you need is an Express 360.... ps. If someone gave me a Grady 228, I'd take it! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On 10 May 2005 12:14:27 -0700, wrote: I can only hope! they said it was a low price already and they couldnt go any lower.. I call bs. This is not the time of year to get a deal on a boat. In November, they'll be a lot more "reasonable." -- I would agree Gene. Asking for a 7 1/2% discount when boating season is just kicking off is a bit much, especially if the boat is already discounted. |
Well I made a offer and the dealer wouldnt take it.. it's depressing.
The boat was listed for 27K and I offered 25K and they said no. so I guess I will just wait and try to find a used one somewhere.. wish me luck! *********** In any negotiation, the party who prevails will be the one who has the least emotional need. Let 'em stew a day or so and take another run at it. You might need to go to $25,100 to allow some face saving by the seller. If they are absolutely certain you're not going any higher, they will either sell you the boat at your price because they can- or turn your business away because the boat is in short supply and they're willing to gamble that the next buyer will pay a bit more. (If they're going to turn somebody away, better its the guy willing to pay $25k than the guy willing to pay $26.5). There may not be a lot of ham on the bone at $27k on that boat if it's a price leader and already discounted, but you'd have to think they'd wash out OK at $25k, if motivated. Key: pretend to lose interest, and they will become much more willing to deal. He who stands around twitching and salivating gets sheared every time. :-) |
You have to realize that the markup on a boat in this price range is not the
same as a car. A Chevy at 27k probably has $4000 markup over invoice. And there is probably another $2,500 that the dealer gets below invoice. On a boat - there may only be about $2000 markup to begin with over his cost after shipping and prep work. He may sell 100 boats in a year vs the car dealer who is selling 100 cars a month. He has to make some profit or close the doors. If you can get it for $26k then you are probably doing good. $25k was just too low. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com - wrote in message oups.com... Well I made a offer and the dealer wouldnt take it.. it's depressing. The boat was listed for 27K and I offered 25K and they said no. so I guess I will just wait and try to find a used one somewhere.. wish me luck! |
On Tue, 10 May 2005 19:48:32 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005 15:27:50 -0400, "Harry.Krause" wrote: Gene Kearns wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005 11:44:50 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote: I'm in the same situation and am thinking the same thing. Particularly since the boat I have my eye on is in demand used and has a high resale value (Grady White Sailfish). I am sure a used boat can be a great deal in some cases but the joy of something brand new that you have babied from day 1 is very appealing. Nah.... what you need is an Express 360.... Haven't seen the 360, but I did get to climb around a 330 last year at the local dealer's dock. It is a terrific boat, great lines, great utility, super-looking hardware. The 36 has what, triple outboard? You'd have to kiss a lot of Saudi princes to afford the gasoline bill. Oddly enough, it still gets about 1 MPG with three Yamaha 250 4-strokes.... really, though, if I could pop $400K for a boat.... the gas probably wouldn't be a problem.... You'd be one hell of a lot better off with E-Tecs. Later, Tom |
On Tue, 10 May 2005 23:57:22 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005 23:34:33 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: You'd be one hell of a lot better off with E-Tecs. Grady-White has crawled in bed with Yamaha and I'm not sure you'd be able to get a Grady from an authorized dealer with anything but Yamahas...... In this part of the country, Evinrudes are about as scarce as hen's teeth.... Tell me about it - people look at my engines like they are freakin' aliens or something. I had this battle with the Contender. I finally broke it down for them - they want to sell a boat, I don't like thief engine choice. So either sell me the boat with the full warranty and I'll install the engines of my choice, or I won't buy the boat. They chose wisely. It's unfortunate that Yamaha is doing this - one of these days, the parts issue is going to explode in their face and lots of Yamaha owners are going to be screaming. Later, Tom |
wrote in message oups.com... What's your ownership style? If you are a frequent trader who will be looking for another boat within a couple of years, you will indeed take a good whack from depreciation when you trade up. Maybe 20-30%, and could be more. That makes a new boat very expensive on an "avg cost per month of ownership basis". However, if you plan to hang onto the boat for many years depreciation needn't be such a critical concern. Starting with a new boat allows you to avoid wondering what dirty little secrets the previous owner glossed over or concealed, and you will know from day one exactly what type of maintenance the boat receives. Once you iron out the few almost inevitable new boat warranty bugs, you can expect perhaps a few years or so of a blissful time where almost everything is almost always working. That's about as good as it gets in the real world for most boats. Owning a boat makes no economic sense whatsoever, whether it is new or used, unless you somehow use to to earn a living. If this Bayliner 225 is really the boat of your dreams and there is nothing similar available used, I'd personally advise against buying a used boat that you don't like nearly as well simply because it is already partially worn-out (and depreciated). Then there's the SO factor. The "Significant Other". Very important. When we bought our present boat in the early 90's, we made the choice we did because it was among the top 3 prospects on my list (1st, 2nd, and 3rd place seemed to vary depending on daily mood and it was a close contest), but it was clearly NUMERO UNO with the wife. Happy wife makes a happy boat. After all these years I'm still very pleased with our boat and have saved more than we paid for it by not repurchasing another boat every 2-3 years like so many people seem to do. Turns out my wife was pretty smart about picking boats- (too bad about her luck with husbands!) It may make less economic sense to buy new than used, but in a transaction where "economic sense" is never a factor under any circumstance, who cares? Sound advice. I however would never buy new. Let the buyer of the new boat work out the kinks for the first couple of years and take the depreciation hit. But why not consider a boat 5-15 years old? A much better value overall. The money saved can be used to upgrade the cabin amenities, canvas and electronics.....and possibly add on reverse cycle A/C and a generator if it did not come with that.. Regardless of what you purchase get the boat surveyed (structural and mechanical) by a reputable surveyor of your choosing. If older than 3 or so years hire a mechanic to do a compression check on the engine(s) cylinders. Also pay careful attention to maintenance records if you buy used. Good luck and let us know what you purchased. |
I am not looking old because I already have a perfectly good 1997 ski
boat. It runs great, looks pretty good, although after 8 years it's got a few cosmetic issues. This new boat, the 225 has a totally different seating arrangement then I have seen in any other boat and it would suit my usage needs perfectly. I put a offer in, they said no. Then I found a used 2004 but the guy wants his loan payoff amount which is 28K. The local dealer has several 2004's left that they are "sales" price selling at 27K with a 1K cash back reward from bayliner. The 2005 model "sales" price is 28K. So right now I am basiccly hopeing my signifigant other let's me buy the 2004.. it's freaking perfect.. but it's that one or nothing. Worst case scenario is I use my boat for another season... not a big issue really :) JimH wrote: wrote in message oups.com... What's your ownership style? If you are a frequent trader who will be looking for another boat within a couple of years, you will indeed take a good whack from depreciation when you trade up. Maybe 20-30%, and could be more. That makes a new boat very expensive on an "avg cost per month of ownership basis". However, if you plan to hang onto the boat for many years depreciation needn't be such a critical concern. Starting with a new boat allows you to avoid wondering what dirty little secrets the previous owner glossed over or concealed, and you will know from day one exactly what type of maintenance the boat receives. Once you iron out the few almost inevitable new boat warranty bugs, you can expect perhaps a few years or so of a blissful time where almost everything is almost always working. That's about as good as it gets in the real world for most boats. Owning a boat makes no economic sense whatsoever, whether it is new or used, unless you somehow use to to earn a living. If this Bayliner 225 is really the boat of your dreams and there is nothing similar available used, I'd personally advise against buying a used boat that you don't like nearly as well simply because it is already partially worn-out (and depreciated). Then there's the SO factor. The "Significant Other". Very important. When we bought our present boat in the early 90's, we made the choice we did because it was among the top 3 prospects on my list (1st, 2nd, and 3rd place seemed to vary depending on daily mood and it was a close contest), but it was clearly NUMERO UNO with the wife. Happy wife makes a happy boat. After all these years I'm still very pleased with our boat and have saved more than we paid for it by not repurchasing another boat every 2-3 years like so many people seem to do. Turns out my wife was pretty smart about picking boats- (too bad about her luck with husbands!) It may make less economic sense to buy new than used, but in a transaction where "economic sense" is never a factor under any circumstance, who cares? Sound advice. I however would never buy new. Let the buyer of the new boat work out the kinks for the first couple of years and take the depreciation hit. But why not consider a boat 5-15 years old? A much better value overall. The money saved can be used to upgrade the cabin amenities, canvas and electronics.....and possibly add on reverse cycle A/C and a generator if it did not come with that.. Regardless of what you purchase get the boat surveyed (structural and mechanical) by a reputable surveyor of your choosing. If older than 3 or so years hire a mechanic to do a compression check on the engine(s) cylinders. Also pay careful attention to maintenance records if you buy used. Good luck and let us know what you purchased. |
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Darn, I thought you owned a 36' Lobster boat, nice upgrade.
"Harry.Krause" wrote in message ... On 9 May 2005 14:15:34 -0700, wrote: Ok so I have a 1997 maxum 20foot ski boat and I am looking to upgrade. I have moorage on lake washington ( near seattle ) and so most of my time is spent on the lake. I live on the water, and own 27 different boats around the world, including a 40' Zimmerman Lobster boat. |
On Tue, 10 May 2005 20:55:23 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2005 16:04:44 -0400, John H wrote: Gene, on your site you have a link to grady-white. That link took me to some page that seems to sell everything but boats. Try changing it to http://www.gradywhite.com/ Oh... crap.... sorry... my bad.... Don't anybody else go to that Grady-White site.... I think it is probably not a safe site to visit. Again, the site with the boats does NOT have a hyphen in it.... No sweat. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
Ok so I did it!
I bought a 2004 bayliner 225 runabout with the 260hp 5.0 MPI engine, snap in carpet, bimini cover, upgraded speakers, etc. It's one of 3 the dealer has left over, so it's brand new. I am buying a moorage cover and a sunbrela bow/cockpit cover for it as well. Very excited to get this thing on the water! I cant beleive my girlfriend actually went for it :) On a side note, I listed my 1997 maxum 2000srl in my company newspaper on friday, saturday morning I got a email from a guy who wanted to see it.. I showed it to him, he loved it, he's paying for a $300 mechanical inspection this friday and if it passes he's buying it for what I wanted to get out of it. This is working out perfect! I will post some pics of the boat once I get it. |
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what bad news? Dont give me the old "bayliner sux and maxum rocks"
speech. |
Hey, hey, congrats!
Here's hoping you enjoy the living heck out of your new boat. As an acquaintance once said, "You're here for a good time, not for a long time." You'll find 40 people who will tell you did the right thing, and 40 more to tell you you screwed up, but if this is the boat you wanted that's the only important phrase in the bottom line. :-) |
Ya.. it's just the perfect boat. Just for some background, the only
other boat that looked appealing was the 22foot sea ray. I really like the seating in both those models. Of course the sea ray is a "bit" more :) I am really excited.. of course with my luck it will rain all dam summer :( |
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ups.com... Hey, hey, congrats! Here's hoping you enjoy the living heck out of your new boat. As an acquaintance once said, "You're here for a good time, not for a long time." You'll find 40 people who will tell you did the right thing, and 40 more to tell you you screwed up, but if this is the boat you wanted that's the only important phrase in the bottom line. :-) Right on! Nay-sayers will be mostly those who want but cannot afford a new boat. The sour grapes syndrome in full bloom. We are about to take the plunge too. Cheers, -- Peter Aitken |
Good luck on your purchase, I must admit I have been feeling a bit of
buyers remorse but once I get the sucker in the water that will all melt away. Peter what kind of boat are you looking at? |
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ups.com... Good luck on your purchase, I must admit I have been feeling a bit of buyers remorse but once I get the sucker in the water that will all melt away. Peter what kind of boat are you looking at? A 28 foot walkaround mainly for fishing. We have narrowed it down to either the Grady White or the Pursuit. We'll base the boat in Beaufort, NC. We are on temporary hold waiting for the spring buying frenzy to slow and prices to drop. We hope to be in the water for the fall fishing season. -- Peter Aitken |
On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:36:37 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Good luck on your purchase, I must admit I have been feeling a bit of buyers remorse but once I get the sucker in the water that will all melt away. Peter what kind of boat are you looking at? A 28 foot walkaround mainly for fishing. We have narrowed it down to either the Grady White or the Pursuit. We'll base the boat in Beaufort, NC. We are on temporary hold waiting for the spring buying frenzy to slow and prices to drop. We hope to be in the water for the fall fishing season. What model Pursuit? I love those boats. Later, Tom |
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:36:37 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... Good luck on your purchase, I must admit I have been feeling a bit of buyers remorse but once I get the sucker in the water that will all melt away. Peter what kind of boat are you looking at? A 28 foot walkaround mainly for fishing. We have narrowed it down to either the Grady White or the Pursuit. We'll base the boat in Beaufort, NC. We are on temporary hold waiting for the spring buying frenzy to slow and prices to drop. We hope to be in the water for the fall fishing season. What model Pursuit? I love those boats. Later, Tom The 2870 walkaround. So far it's a pretty close contest between that and the Grady White. A sea trial and price will be the deciding factors. -- Peter Aitken |
On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:31:34 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:36:37 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... Good luck on your purchase, I must admit I have been feeling a bit of buyers remorse but once I get the sucker in the water that will all melt away. Peter what kind of boat are you looking at? A 28 foot walkaround mainly for fishing. We have narrowed it down to either the Grady White or the Pursuit. We'll base the boat in Beaufort, NC. We are on temporary hold waiting for the spring buying frenzy to slow and prices to drop. We hope to be in the water for the fall fishing season. What model Pursuit? I love those boats. Later, Tom The 2870 walkaround. So far it's a pretty close contest between that and the Grady White. A sea trial and price will be the deciding factors. I have a Contender 31 Fisharound and I love it. I've taken a ride on a 2870 and was very impressed. In fact, there was some thought given to purchasing one when I sold the other Contender, but I'm kind of a brand loyalist. You can't go wrong with a Pursuit. Outboards, inboard w/jackshaft or I/O? Later, Tom |
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:31:34 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:36:37 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote: wrote in message egroups.com... Good luck on your purchase, I must admit I have been feeling a bit of buyers remorse but once I get the sucker in the water that will all melt away. Peter what kind of boat are you looking at? A 28 foot walkaround mainly for fishing. We have narrowed it down to either the Grady White or the Pursuit. We'll base the boat in Beaufort, NC. We are on temporary hold waiting for the spring buying frenzy to slow and prices to drop. We hope to be in the water for the fall fishing season. What model Pursuit? I love those boats. Later, Tom The 2870 walkaround. So far it's a pretty close contest between that and the Grady White. A sea trial and price will be the deciding factors. I have a Contender 31 Fisharound and I love it. I've taken a ride on a 2870 and was very impressed. In fact, there was some thought given to purchasing one when I sold the other Contender, but I'm kind of a brand loyalist. You can't go wrong with a Pursuit. Outboards, inboard w/jackshaft or I/O? Outboards (twin Yamaha 225s). I think this is the only option with this model -- Peter Aitken |
On Mon, 16 May 2005 23:10:45 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 16 May 2005 17:31:34 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:36:37 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote: wrote in message legroups.com... Good luck on your purchase, I must admit I have been feeling a bit of buyers remorse but once I get the sucker in the water that will all melt away. Peter what kind of boat are you looking at? A 28 foot walkaround mainly for fishing. We have narrowed it down to either the Grady White or the Pursuit. We'll base the boat in Beaufort, NC. We are on temporary hold waiting for the spring buying frenzy to slow and prices to drop. We hope to be in the water for the fall fishing season. What model Pursuit? I love those boats. The 2870 walkaround. So far it's a pretty close contest between that and the Grady White. A sea trial and price will be the deciding factors. I have a Contender 31 Fisharound and I love it. I've taken a ride on a 2870 and was very impressed. In fact, there was some thought given to purchasing one when I sold the other Contender, but I'm kind of a brand loyalist. You can't go wrong with a Pursuit. Outboards, inboard w/jackshaft or I/O? Outboards (twin Yamaha 225s). I think this is the only option with this model Eh - probably four strokes. There are always options - like purchasing a boat without power like I did with my Contender. Oh well, can't have everything. :) Later, Tom |
I get my boat on saturday morning.. I cant WAIT!
on a side note, does anyone know any good fishing resources for lake washington? I havent been fishing in about 15 years and think I might want to try it out. |
Around 5/17/2005 7:17 PM, wrote:
I get my boat on saturday morning.. I cant WAIT! So far it looks like it'll be a great weekend for boating. on a side note, does anyone know any good fishing resources for lake washington? I havent been fishing in about 15 years and think I might want to try it out. http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishcorn.htm is always a good place to start. (Which reminds me, I still need to mail in last year's catch record card...) -- ~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat" "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." -Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows |
Well I just sold my old boat.. and tomorrow I take possesion of the new
boat! I cant wait... pictures are coming... |
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I will just post em to my website.. no worries.
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