Smokey 2-stroke
 

Gene Kearns wrote:
On 1 Apr 2004 04:54:59 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:



Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.


I think this is the point you missed. Nobody is talking about burning
50:1. The suggestion was to put about a gallon of 50:1 per refuel in
the family van. That is taking 5 gallons of 50:1 and mixing it with
probably another 120 gallons. So, 125 gallons of fuel and .1 oz of
oil yields about a 12,500:1 mix. While I wouldn't try running 50:1
through any 4 stroke I have, I don't think that 12,500:1 is going to
hurt anything.

There are Continental aircraft engines, carbureted and fuel injected,
that constantly run on a diet of low ratio mixes of 2-stroke oil. I've
never heard of any problems associated with the use and those people
that employ this method swear that it eliminates valve sticking. And
yes, before anyone notices, it isn't legal to do so... ditto Marvel
Mystery Oil for the round engine crowd... but it is done.

Amazing that this much angst can be released over .1 ounce of oil.

I am sorry, Gene, but the fact is that I HAVE been advocating the use of
running 50:1, or richer, 5 or 6 gallons at a time, or straight up on an
empty tank, in the family vehicle. You won't notice it at all, the
vehicle won't notice it, and it's the best economical/ecological way to
use up questionable fuel from a prior season, or fuel that you may not
be sure is mixed to the proper ratio. I've been doing it since the
early 1970's in every car or truck we've ever owned.

Realistically, though, I have rarely had "bad gas", but I have used fuel
bordering on varnish with no ill effects (I found a 6 gal outboard can
that I forgot about for a few years - I just dumped it into our fuel
injected Aerostar). I have never used a Stabil-type product either - I
just like to have two fresh tanks on the outboards at the beginning of
the season and sometimes use the old gas in the cars. On the inboards,
we just fill the tanks in the fall at storage time - no additives.

As to the legality issue, this is new to me. The label on the car says
"Unleaded Fuel Only". It's unleaded. The owner's manuals discourage
non-OEM additives, of course. AutoZone, Advance, & all the others sell
lots of the stuff though.

Rob

Smokey 2-stroke
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Bill" wrote in message
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Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my
new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can
afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil.
The
#2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.


Well Asskisser have you ever asked a Truck Driver if he ever put
Gasoline in
his Diesel Fuel tank. I have and Also done this. I helps keep the
injectors
clean and in the winter when the temperature gets real low it helps keep
the
fuel from turning to gel. Yes turning to Gel. But I guess you all ready
know
this....Because you think you know everything. Only in your own mind..
Running 50:1 gas and oil will not hurt anything in any Car or Truck with
Injectors, Throttle body or Carburetor) Oh how is Harry? Have you too
been
doing any more backdoor stuff...

What to hell does that have to do with running pre-mix through
injectors that were made for gasoline???? Now, I've been around trucks
all of my life. All four of my cousins, who lived across the street
were truck drivers. In western NY. It gets very cold there, so, yes, I
already know this! Now, how to hell does putting a little gasoline in
diesel fuel compare to running pre-mix through fuel injectors that
were made for gasoline ONLY???

Well Since you brought it up look here "Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that
possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline
engine is not" I did not run pure gas in my Diesel engines it was a mixture
of about 5 gal gas to 100gal of fuel. Since you already know this then why
did you say what you did? I must be like everything else you said NO TRUTH
OR BASES TO YOUR FACTS.

Smokey 2-stroke
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on 100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Oh, I see. Because you got away with it ONCE, and only for a short
duration, that qualifies it as a good idea to run pre-mix in a fuel
injected gasoline motor, huh?

YUP!

Smokey 2-stroke
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on 100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Oh, I see. Because you got away with it ONCE, and only for a short
duration, that qualifies it as a good idea to run pre-mix in a fuel
injected gasoline motor, huh?

YUP!

That certainly tell a lot about your level of intelligence.
Would you also say that, because someone played Russian roulette once,
and didn't splatter his brains out, that Russian roulette is a good
idea?

I once bought a Mustang from a friend, it had a hole in the oil filter
from a rock. I didn't know it, and drove it home. When I got home,
almost all of the oil was gone, and I heard lifter noise. Put oil in
it, and everything was fine.
Using YOUR analogy, it should be perfectly o.k. to run that motor with
no more than one quart of oil, right?

Smokey 2-stroke
 

"Bill" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill" wrote in message
...
Rob

And there are very few multi-port injection cars out their. And my
new
diesel, due to be delivered Friday (Damn! senile, old handyman can
afford
better vehicles, boats, houses than a Georgia PE) burns light oil.
The
#2
diesel is probably heavier / thicker than 50:1 boat gas.

Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now, again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but 50:1
premix in the fuel tank.


Well Asskisser have you ever asked a Truck Driver if he ever put
Gasoline in
his Diesel Fuel tank. I have and Also done this. I helps keep the
injectors
clean and in the winter when the temperature gets real low it helps keep
the
fuel from turning to gel. Yes turning to Gel. But I guess you all ready
know
this....Because you think you know everything. Only in your own mind..
Running 50:1 gas and oil will not hurt anything in any Car or Truck with
Injectors, Throttle body or Carburetor) Oh how is Harry? Have you too
been
doing any more backdoor stuff...

What to hell does that have to do with running pre-mix through
injectors that were made for gasoline???? Now, I've been around trucks
all of my life. All four of my cousins, who lived across the street
were truck drivers. In western NY. It gets very cold there, so, yes, I
already know this! Now, how to hell does putting a little gasoline in
diesel fuel compare to running pre-mix through fuel injectors that
were made for gasoline ONLY???

Well Since you brought it up look here "Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that
possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline
engine is not" I did not run pure gas in my Diesel engines it was a mixture
of about 5 gal gas to 100gal of fuel. Since you already know this then why
did you say what you did? I must be like everything else you said NO TRUTH
OR BASES TO YOUR FACTS.

You boob, I DIDN'T bring it up!!!!!!!

Smokey 2-stroke
 

What to hell does that have to do with running pre-mix through
injectors that were made for gasoline???? Now, I've been around trucks
all of my life. All four of my cousins, who lived across the street
were truck drivers. In western NY. It gets very cold there, so, yes, I
already know this! Now, how to hell does putting a little gasoline in
diesel fuel compare to running pre-mix through fuel injectors that
were made for gasoline ONLY???

Well Since you brought it up look here "Gee, Bill, ever stop to think
that
possibly, maybe, a diesel engine is MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a
gasoline
engine is not" I did not run pure gas in my Diesel engines it was a
mixture
of about 5 gal gas to 100gal of fuel. Since you already know this then
why
did you say what you did? I must be like everything else you said NO
TRUTH
OR BASES TO YOUR FACTS.

You boob, I DIDN'T bring it up!!!!!!!

No you didn't bring it up. But you did give ****ty advice though. About not
running premixed gas in a car or truck. All the guy was asking is how to get
rid of some old boat gas then you flamed him. That's what I was saying.
Don't you even read the comments when you respond to them? Yea this is what
I have been saying on all your OT posting.

Smokey 2-stroke
 

No you didn't bring it up. But you did give ****ty advice though. About
not
running premixed gas in a car or truck. All the guy was asking is how to
get
rid of some old boat gas then you flamed him. That's what I was saying.
Don't you even read the comments when you respond to them? Yea this is
what
I have been saying on all your OT posting.

Tell you what. If you stop Off Topic posting in the Rec.boats I will leave
you alone and Harry. Deal !!!

Smokey 2-stroke
 

LOL, you are the only person I know who would buy a car without noticing it
had an oil leak caused by a hole in the oil filter. You are too much.


"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:MMZac.10784
Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel
engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now,
again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but
50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it
on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a
long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on
100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Oh, I see. Because you got away with it ONCE, and only for a short
duration, that qualifies it as a good idea to run pre-mix in a fuel
injected gasoline motor, huh?

YUP!

That certainly tell a lot about your level of intelligence.
Would you also say that, because someone played Russian roulette once,
and didn't splatter his brains out, that Russian roulette is a good
idea?

I once bought a Mustang from a friend, it had a hole in the oil filter
from a rock. I didn't know it, and drove it home. When I got home,
almost all of the oil was gone, and I heard lifter noise. Put oil in
it, and everything was fine.
Using YOUR analogy, it should be perfectly o.k. to run that motor with
no more than one quart of oil, right?

Smokey 2-stroke
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:MMZac.10784
Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel
engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now,
again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but
50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it
on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a
long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on
100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Oh, I see. Because you got away with it ONCE, and only for a short
duration, that qualifies it as a good idea to run pre-mix in a fuel
injected gasoline motor, huh?

YUP!

That certainly tell a lot about your level of intelligence.
Would you also say that, because someone played Russian roulette once,
and didn't splatter his brains out, that Russian roulette is a good
idea?

I once bought a Mustang from a friend, it had a hole in the oil filter
from a rock. I didn't know it, and drove it home. When I got home,
almost all of the oil was gone, and I heard lifter noise. Put oil in
it, and everything was fine.
Using YOUR analogy, it should be perfectly o.k. to run that motor with
no more than one quart of oil, right?

According to you: Yup.

Smokey 2-stroke
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:MMZac.10784
Gee, Bill, ever stop to think that possibly, maybe, a diesel
engine is
MADE to burn diesel fuel, and a gasoline engine is not?? Now,
again,
go ask a representitive of an injector manufacturer, or a rep from
Ford, GM, on and on, and ask them if they think it wise to but
50:1
premix in the fuel tank.

Well, my 1989 S10 pickup has ran for a long time and I had to run it
on
premix to get to a gas station one time. And the gas station was a
long
ways from the run out of gas point. This meant the truck ran on
100%
premix. Has a 178,000 miles on it and is still running good.

Oh, I see. Because you got away with it ONCE, and only for a short
duration, that qualifies it as a good idea to run pre-mix in a fuel
injected gasoline motor, huh?

YUP!

That certainly tell a lot about your level of intelligence.
Would you also say that, because someone played Russian roulette once,
and didn't splatter his brains out, that Russian roulette is a good
idea?

I once bought a Mustang from a friend, it had a hole in the oil filter
from a rock. I didn't know it, and drove it home. When I got home,
almost all of the oil was gone, and I heard lifter noise. Put oil in
it, and everything was fine.
Using YOUR analogy, it should be perfectly o.k. to run that motor with
no more than one quart of oil, right?

According to you: Yup.

According to ME? What? Where? Be specific, please. Where have I said
that it's okaky to run a motor without oil, OR play russian roulette?