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ReevesJ32 March 26th 04 04:51 PM

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I've been reading this newsgroup for a few years now, giving advice where and
when it was needed or requested. However, for various reasons (mostly the
political and BS), I find it's time to leave. Should anyone require advice that
actually pertains to boating and/or their engines, I'd suggest visiting the
following sites:

www.marineengine.com , www.maxrules.com , www.iboats.com

Joe (30+ Years With OMC)

NOYB March 26th 04 05:10 PM

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Bye.

There's no door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass.



Don White March 26th 04 06:15 PM

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NOYB wrote in message
ink.net...

Bye.

There's no door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass.

What a piece of work!
Insult someone who actually knew what he was talking about.



Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 06:33 PM

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In article , "Don White" wrote:

NOYB wrote in message
link.net...

Bye.

There's no door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass.

What a piece of work!
Insult someone who actually knew what he was talking about.


Don don't let the door hit you on the way out either....



Don White March 26th 04 06:41 PM

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Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:kI_8c.1859


Don don't let the door hit you on the way out either....


Sorry...I'll still be here when your day pass is revoked and you disappear
for another three months.
And when you come back to sully the group again, I'll be here to straighten
you out once more.



Joe Parsons March 26th 04 06:59 PM

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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:41:26 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:kI_8c.1859


Don don't let the door hit you on the way out either....


Sorry...I'll still be here when your day pass is revoked and you disappear
for another three months.
And when you come back to sully the group again, I'll be here to straighten
you out once more.


Don, you really should treat Mr. Blackmoore with more deference. After all, he
has been an important contributor to rec.boats. After all, he has been a
prolific and valued contributor to the newsgroup--in over 200 posts, he has
posted on boating related topics, um...twice--no, sorry--three whole times.
That was back in September of 2002.

So just give the guy a break. Give him the respect he deserves.

Maybe he'll actually get involved in boating somehow.

Joe Parsons


Don White March 26th 04 07:05 PM

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Joe Parsons wrote in message
...
So just give the guy a break. Give him the respect he deserves.

Maybe he'll actually get involved in boating somehow.

Joe Parsons



That so Henry?? or is Joe too optimistic?



John Smith March 26th 04 07:11 PM

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Don, he is leaving due to the OT political bs, you are in the same category
as NYOB. If you want to have the knowledgeable people hang around, why
don't you stop the political posts? NYOB attitude is who cares, by your OT
posts you are agreeing with him.


"Don White" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote in message
ink.net...

Bye.

There's no door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass.

What a piece of work!
Insult someone who actually knew what he was talking about.





DSK March 26th 04 07:17 PM

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Joe Parsons wrote:
Don, you really should treat Mr. Blackmoore with more deference. After all, he
has been an important contributor to rec.boats. After all, he has been a
prolific and valued contributor to the newsgroup--in over 200 posts, he has
posted on boating related topics, um...twice--no, sorry--three whole times.
That was back in September of 2002.

So just give the guy a break. Give him the respect he deserves.

Maybe he'll actually get involved in boating somehow.


Actually, "Henry Blackmoore" and "Jim--" and "Charles" and "Bert
Robbins" and "Christopher Robin" and a few others are all fine
upstanding examples of neoconservative citizens... honest, fair minded,
charitable, probably all were Boy Scouts. Notice how they never speak
ill of a fellow American and always use respectable language.

I pretty much never read any posts by any of them, because they're all
the same... interchangeable parts, kind of like. AFAIK they are all sock
puppets. John H has apparently decided he wants to be like them. NOBBY
is the same old not-very-undercover communist agent provocateur. I'm
tempted to start a boating thread, just to spite 'em.

DSK


Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 07:25 PM

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In article , "Don White" wrote:

Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:kI_8c.1859


Don don't let the door hit you on the way out either....


Sorry...I'll still be here when your day pass is revoked and you disappear
for another three months.
And when you come back to sully the group again, I'll be here to straighten
you out once more.


Using your United Nations guidelines no doubt...





Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 07:27 PM

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In article , wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:41:26 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:kI_8c.1859


Don don't let the door hit you on the way out either....


Sorry...I'll still be here when your day pass is revoked and you disappear
for another three months.
And when you come back to sully the group again, I'll be here to straighten
you out once more.


Don, you really should treat Mr. Blackmoore with more deference. After all, he
has been an important contributor to rec.boats. After all, he has been a
prolific and valued contributor to the newsgroup--in over 200 posts, he has
posted on boating related topics, um...twice--no, sorry--three whole times.
That was back in September of 2002.

So just give the guy a break. Give him the respect he deserves.

Maybe he'll actually get involved in boating somehow.

Joe Parsons


Are you in the newsgroup police?

Sorry officer, I got kind of carried away... and I promise to not do it again
if you let me go.





Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 07:29 PM

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In article , "Don White" wrote:

Joe Parsons wrote in message
.. .
So just give the guy a break. Give him the respect he deserves.

Maybe he'll actually get involved in boating somehow.

Joe Parsons



That so Henry?? or is Joe too optimistic?


Maybe I can pattern myself after you? You are just a storehouse full
of boating information and you never comment on political matters
unless it is directly related to boating.

Ya think?


Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 07:36 PM

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In article , DSK wrote:

Joe Parsons wrote:
Don, you really should treat Mr. Blackmoore with more deference. After all,

he
has been an important contributor to rec.boats. After all, he has been a
prolific and valued contributor to the newsgroup--in over 200 posts, he has
posted on boating related topics, um...twice--no, sorry--three whole times.
That was back in September of 2002.

So just give the guy a break. Give him the respect he deserves.

Maybe he'll actually get involved in boating somehow.


Actually, "Henry Blackmoore" and "Jim--" and "Charles" and "Bert
Robbins" and "Christopher Robin" and a few others are all fine
upstanding examples of neoconservative citizens... honest, fair minded,
charitable, probably all were Boy Scouts. Notice how they never speak
ill of a fellow American and always use respectable language.


I pretty much never read any posts by any of them, because they're all
the same... interchangeable parts, kind of like. AFAIK they are all sock
puppets. John H has apparently decided he wants to be like them. NOBBY
is the same old not-very-undercover communist agent provocateur. I'm
tempted to start a boating thread, just to spite 'em.

DSK


So I see. And you most certainly never filter out posts (not read) by Krause
and Dougie, or 'asskisser and jps and others like them? Right?

And those same posters that I just mentioned certainly never speak "ill of
a fellow American and always use respectable language" too right?

According to your parameters above, what is the difference between
the two groups? The only difference is that you are a supporter of
one side or political persuasion and of course anything goes with
regards to your favored team.

And I am a 'moderate' as far my being "conservative" goes. You evidently
don't know what a "neoconservative" is.

LOL




Henry Blackmoore March 26th 04 07:41 PM

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In article bf%8c.12536$JO3.20277@attbi_s04, "John Smith" wrote:

Don, he is leaving due to the OT political bs, you are in the same category
as NYOB. If you want to have the knowledgeable people hang around, why
don't you stop the political posts? NYOB attitude is who cares, by your OT
posts you are agreeing with him.


Don can't stop because he thinks (like most Canadian socialist planner
wannabes) that he knows what is best for Americans. Don thinks that
he knows who the best US President will be. Not to mention that
he feels Texans and Floridians (along with others) are all "gun-nutz" (ala'
daddy krause his mentor) and shouldn't be allowed to protect themselves
from criminals and that they should totally depend on government for
solutions to all of their problems like he does.

And when you disagree with Don then he supports the posters in threads
about how 'offtopic' most of the newgroup participants are and how they
are ruining the newsgroup.

Basically Don's United Nation's certified and controlled sh*t don't stink...



"Don White" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote in message
ink.net...

Bye.

There's no door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass.

What a piece of work!
Insult someone who actually knew what he was talking about.





Joe Parsons March 26th 04 08:07 PM

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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:27:48 GMT, (Henry Blackmoore) wrote:

In article , wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:41:26 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:kI_8c.1859


Don don't let the door hit you on the way out either....


Sorry...I'll still be here when your day pass is revoked and you disappear
for another three months.
And when you come back to sully the group again, I'll be here to straighten
you out once more.


Don, you really should treat Mr. Blackmoore with more deference. After all, he
has been an important contributor to rec.boats. After all, he has been a
prolific and valued contributor to the newsgroup--in over 200 posts, he has
posted on boating related topics, um...twice--no, sorry--three whole times.
That was back in September of 2002.

So just give the guy a break. Give him the respect he deserves.

Maybe he'll actually get involved in boating somehow.

Joe Parsons


Are you in the newsgroup police?

Sorry officer, I got kind of carried away... and I promise to not do it again
if you let me go.


Do you disagree in some way with my observation? Is it inaccurate? Unfair?

Joe Parsons


WRH March 26th 04 08:26 PM

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Thanks for the links Joe. Another good one for Merc is:
http://forums.screamandfly.com/index.php?s=


--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"ReevesJ32" wrote in message
...
I've been reading this newsgroup for a few years now, giving advice where

and
when it was needed or requested. However, for various reasons (mostly the
political and BS), I find it's time to leave. Should anyone require advice

that
actually pertains to boating and/or their engines, I'd suggest visiting

the
following sites:

www.marineengine.com , www.maxrules.com , www.iboats.com

Joe (30+ Years With OMC)




DSK March 26th 04 08:51 PM

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Henry Blackmoore wrote:
So I see.


Actually, you don't. You are blind, but you *think* you see.


... And you most certainly never filter out posts (not read) by Krause
and Dougie, or 'asskisser and jps and others like them? Right?


I don't filter anybody. I often read Doug Kanter's posts, and
occasionally "jps"s, rarely "basskisser"s and very rarely Harry's.

However, none of them use as much foul language or as routinely insult
those they disagree with. You (and the charming little group I named in
my earlier post) do it every time, which is why this is the last time I
will ever respond to one of your posts.

BTW when posting on boating topics, I use my name. If you don't know it,
then you probably don't belong here.

DSK


trainfan1 March 26th 04 09:36 PM

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ReevesJ32 wrote:
I've been reading this newsgroup for a few years now, giving advice where and
when it was needed or requested. However, for various reasons (mostly the
political and BS), I find it's time to leave. Should anyone require advice that
actually pertains to boating and/or their engines, I'd suggest visiting the
following sites:

www.marineengine.com , www.maxrules.com , www.iboats.com

Joe (30+ Years With OMC)


Thanks for the links, Joe. I know exactly how you feel.

Rob (31+ Years working on OMC's!)

Don White March 26th 04 10:16 PM

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Henry Blackmoore wrote in message
nk.net...
Don can't stop because he thinks (like most Canadian socialist planner
wannabes) that he knows what is best for Americans. Don thinks that
he knows who the best US President will be. Not to mention that
he feels Texans and Floridians (along with others) are all "gun-nutz"

(ala'
daddy krause his mentor) and shouldn't be allowed to protect themselves
from criminals and that they should totally depend on government for
solutions to all of their problems like he does.

snip...

Just being neighbourly by pointing out what may be 'bad' for you.....the US
is too big and complex for an outsider like me to think they know what's
best....or even who the best president would be.

I diss Texas & Florida a bit just to jab at certain deserving posters.
By your antics here, a person could argue you are giving Texas a bad name.




John H March 26th 04 10:22 PM

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On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:16:51 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


Henry Blackmoore wrote in message
ink.net...
Don can't stop because he thinks (like most Canadian socialist planner
wannabes) that he knows what is best for Americans. Don thinks that
he knows who the best US President will be. Not to mention that
he feels Texans and Floridians (along with others) are all "gun-nutz"

(ala'
daddy krause his mentor) and shouldn't be allowed to protect themselves
from criminals and that they should totally depend on government for
solutions to all of their problems like he does.

snip...

Just being neighbourly by pointing out what may be 'bad' for you.....the US
is too big and complex for an outsider like me to think they know what's
best....or even who the best president would be.

I diss Texas & Florida a bit just to jab at certain deserving posters.
By your antics here, a person could argue you are giving Texas a bad name.



I don't even live in Texas or Florida!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Don White March 26th 04 10:41 PM

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John H wrote in message
...

I don't even live in Texas or Florida!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


We can't hold Maryland responsible for that!



DSK March 26th 04 10:54 PM

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WaIIy wrote:
If someone doesn't know your name, they don't belong here?

What's your name? Chris Craft? LOL


Not quite.

Trying to add to the pile of bodies, WaIIy?

Anyway, what I meant to say is that if you do not know my name, then you
haven't read any of my *boating* posts and are probably here for the
wrong reasons.

DSK



jim-- March 26th 04 11:20 PM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:15:31 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


NOYB wrote in message
link.net...

Bye.

There's no door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass.

What a piece of work!
Insult someone who actually knew what he was talking about.


This political based poster is probably *the* textbook example of what
is wrong with this news group. He is one of the very few people I
have ever killfiled. With killfiles in place for those that post
nearly nothing related to boating and general subjects that are off
topic, my useful bandwidth from this newsgroup is running about
181-retrieved to 288-available or about 63%. I find that I spend
*way* less time trying to teach pigs to dance and much more time
actually accomplishing gainful activity.... like boating.

I highly recommend that any poster interested in boating procure
adequate software to filter out the off-topic vandals and stay here
and continue to post on-topic responses.

To leave this group and go elsewhere only accomplishes what these OT
posters desire.... summed up by the response, "Bye. There's no
door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass." I don't
know quite what it is that they hate about rec.boats, nor do I
understand there motivations, however, I do know that leaving only
achieves their goals at the expense of you giving up what can be a
rewarding and valuable resource.

Think about it..... and stay.



Harry Krawse seems to be your "textbook example" of what is wrong with this
NG. Combined with Chuck Gould they have managed to take this NG from a
boating NG to a political one.

But I see you have not filtered him out as you respond to some of his posts.

Will you be doing so in the near future? And have you add Chuck to your
ignore filter also? Or is it only the people who have different political
views (from yours) that you filter and bitch about?

Me thinks so.



Peter Pan March 26th 04 11:33 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

John H wrote in message
...

I don't even live in Texas or Florida!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


We can't hold Maryland responsible for that!



That explains a lot. I live in FL and my sister (who IMO is totally wacky),
lives in MD. I always blame it on the wacky mental vibrations sent from DC.
:)



Harry Krause March 26th 04 11:40 PM

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Don White wrote:
Henry Blackmoore wrote in message
nk.net...

Don can't stop because he thinks (like most Canadian socialist planner
wannabes) that he knows what is best for Americans. Don thinks that
he knows who the best US President will be. Not to mention that
he feels Texans and Floridians (along with others) are all "gun-nutz"


(ala'

daddy krause his mentor) and shouldn't be allowed to protect themselves
from criminals and that they should totally depend on government for
solutions to all of their problems like he does.


snip...

Just being neighbourly by pointing out what may be 'bad' for you.....the US
is too big and complex for an outsider like me to think they know what's
best....or even who the best president would be.

I diss Texas & Florida a bit just to jab at certain deserving posters.
By your antics here, a person could argue you are giving Texas a bad name.




Texas already has a bad name.

Harry Krause March 26th 04 11:51 PM

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WaIIy wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:54:09 -0500, DSK wrote:


WaIIy wrote:

If someone doesn't know your name, they don't belong here?

What's your name? Chris Craft? LOL


Not quite.

Trying to add to the pile of bodies, WaIIy?

Anyway, what I meant to say is that if you do not know my name, then you
haven't read any of my *boating* posts and are probably here for the
wrong reasons.

DSK



Sorry, I couldn't figure out what you "meant" to say.

I responded to what you actually said.



It's a function of your double digit
IQ, wally.

Eisboch March 26th 04 11:59 PM

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"ReevesJ32" wrote in message
...
I've been reading this newsgroup for a few years now, giving advice where

and
when it was needed or requested. However, for various reasons (mostly the
political and BS), I find it's time to leave. Should anyone require advice

that
actually pertains to boating and/or their engines, I'd suggest visiting

the
following sites:

www.marineengine.com , www.maxrules.com , www.iboats.com

Joe (30+ Years With OMC)


Joe,

As a long time participant but now only an occasional lurker --- hate to
see you go, but certainly understand the reasons. Thanks for all your
positive contributions back when this was a decent NG.

Eisboch


DSK March 27th 04 12:00 AM

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WaIIy wrote:
Sorry, I couldn't figure out what you "meant" to say.

I responded to what you actually said.


And to add to the pile of bodies.

DSK


Charles March 27th 04 12:16 AM

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DSK wrote:

I pretty much never read any posts by any of them


Yea, right.

Glad you're here donald, filling the newsgroup racist postion.

-- Charlie

jim-- March 27th 04 12:41 AM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...

Harry Krawse seems to be your "textbook example" of what is wrong with

this
NG. Combined with Chuck Gould they have managed to take this NG from a
boating NG to a political one.

But I see you have not filtered him out as you respond to some of his

posts.

Will you be doing so in the near future? And have you add Chuck to your
ignore filter also? Or is it only the people who have different

political
views (from yours) that you filter and bitch about?

Me thinks so.


Jim,

I have told Harry that he posts too much off topic. He does.

My standard, and it is admittedly somewhat subjective, is how much a
person *does* post on topic vs. his/her total posts tempered with
their stated intent. Harry has always been civil to me, even though
we stood toe-to-toe when I supported Bush in the last election. I
questioned his position, his sources, and his conclusions.... net
result was that (1) he was always a gentleman about it and (2) I found
*myself* posting *WAY* too much off topic. I filter most of Harry's
posts by filters created to cleanse my downloads of off topic content,
whether it be liberal, conservative, Republican, Democrat, whatever.
*ANY* OT content (detected by the software) goes in the bozo bin
without regard to the poster's identity.

My *REAL PROBLEM(s)* have been with those who almost *NEVER* (or truly
never) post on topic. They come here to disrupt the newsgroup for
their own selfish reasons. Some have gone to the extreme lengths of
posting hundreds of off topic posts, admitting that they never come
here to discuss boating (since they go to other sites for ON-topic
posts) and then having the unmitigated gall to secretively email
those alternate sites as the alternative to get away from their
disruptive OT postings. Clearly, their hate is directed at rec.boats.
I don't get it. Do you?

Understand that nearly all of my filters relate to *content* not
identities. The few people that I have killfiled by name or alias
have earned that dubious distinction by going out of their way to be
purposefully incendiary and predominantly off topic.

Bait *me* and you will *surely* end up in the bozo-bin. Such was
NOYB's fate.

--



Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/

Homepage
http://www.southharbourvillage.com/directions.asp Where

Southport,NC is located.
http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm Real Time Pictures

at My Marina
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats

at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide


Show me whe

1. Harry does not insult someone in his reply to their post disagreeing
with his.

2. Harry posts boating related topics.

Your examples will be few and far between.

*He* is the center of the problem. Concentrate your efforts (to improve the
group) at him.



NOYB March 27th 04 12:44 AM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...

Harry Krawse seems to be your "textbook example" of what is wrong with

this
NG. Combined with Chuck Gould they have managed to take this NG from a
boating NG to a political one.

But I see you have not filtered him out as you respond to some of his

posts.

Will you be doing so in the near future? And have you add Chuck to your
ignore filter also? Or is it only the people who have different

political
views (from yours) that you filter and bitch about?

Me thinks so.


Jim,

I have told Harry that he posts too much off topic. He does.

My standard, and it is admittedly somewhat subjective, is how much a
person *does* post on topic vs. his/her total posts tempered with
their stated intent. Harry has always been civil to me, even though
we stood toe-to-toe when I supported Bush in the last election. I
questioned his position, his sources, and his conclusions.... net
result was that (1) he was always a gentleman about it and (2) I found
*myself* posting *WAY* too much off topic. I filter most of Harry's
posts by filters created to cleanse my downloads of off topic content,
whether it be liberal, conservative, Republican, Democrat, whatever.
*ANY* OT content (detected by the software) goes in the bozo bin
without regard to the poster's identity.

My *REAL PROBLEM(s)* have been with those who almost *NEVER* (or truly
never) post on topic. They come here to disrupt the newsgroup for
their own selfish reasons. Some have gone to the extreme lengths of
posting hundreds of off topic posts, admitting that they never come
here to discuss boating (since they go to other sites for ON-topic
posts) and then having the unmitigated gall to secretively email
those alternate sites as the alternative to get away from their
disruptive OT postings. Clearly, their hate is directed at rec.boats.
I don't get it. Do you?

Understand that nearly all of my filters relate to *content* not
identities. The few people that I have killfiled by name or alias
have earned that dubious distinction by going out of their way to be
purposefully incendiary and predominantly off topic.

Bait *me* and you will *surely* end up in the bozo-bin. Such was
NOYB's fate.


waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah



Dan Krueger March 27th 04 12:45 AM

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Well said. Joe has helped more people here than probably any other individual.
Thanks, Joe.

Dan


Eisboch wrote:
"ReevesJ32" wrote in message
...

I've been reading this newsgroup for a few years now, giving advice where


and

when it was needed or requested. However, for various reasons (mostly the
political and BS), I find it's time to leave. Should anyone require advice


that

actually pertains to boating and/or their engines, I'd suggest visiting


the

following sites:

www.marineengine.com , www.maxrules.com , www.iboats.com

Joe (30+ Years With OMC)



Joe,

As a long time participant but now only an occasional lurker --- hate to
see you go, but certainly understand the reasons. Thanks for all your
positive contributions back when this was a decent NG.

Eisboch



NOYB March 27th 04 12:46 AM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:20:33 -0500, "jim--" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:15:31 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


NOYB wrote in message
link.net...

Bye.

There's no door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass.

What a piece of work!
Insult someone who actually knew what he was talking about.


This political based poster is probably *the* textbook example of what
is wrong with this news group. He is one of the very few people I
have ever killfiled. With killfiles in place for those that post
nearly nothing related to boating and general subjects that are off
topic, my useful bandwidth from this newsgroup is running about
181-retrieved to 288-available or about 63%. I find that I spend
*way* less time trying to teach pigs to dance and much more time
actually accomplishing gainful activity.... like boating.

I highly recommend that any poster interested in boating procure
adequate software to filter out the off-topic vandals and stay here
and continue to post on-topic responses.

To leave this group and go elsewhere only accomplishes what these OT
posters desire.... summed up by the response, "Bye. There's no
door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass." I don't
know quite what it is that they hate about rec.boats, nor do I
understand there motivations, however, I do know that leaving only
achieves their goals at the expense of you giving up what can be a
rewarding and valuable resource.

Think about it..... and stay.



Harry Krawse seems to be your "textbook example" of what is wrong with

this
NG. Combined with Chuck Gould they have managed to take this NG from a
boating NG to a political one.

But I see you have not filtered him out as you respond to some of his

posts.

Will you be doing so in the near future? And have you add Chuck to your
ignore filter also? Or is it only the people who have different

political
views (from yours) that you filter and bitch about?

Me thinks so.


You know. I missed one important point. If you come here for boating
information, do you not mourn the loss of a person with over 30 years
of technical boating know-how?

Is your (erroneous) assessment of my political convictions more
important that the possible loss of such an able boating contributor?

Or do you really care? About boats, that is?


There are a lot better places to get answers to boating questions.



jim-- March 27th 04 12:56 AM

Leaving The Newsgroup
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:20:33 -0500, "jim--" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 18:15:31 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


NOYB wrote in message
link.net...

Bye.

There's no door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass.

What a piece of work!
Insult someone who actually knew what he was talking about.


This political based poster is probably *the* textbook example of what
is wrong with this news group. He is one of the very few people I
have ever killfiled. With killfiles in place for those that post
nearly nothing related to boating and general subjects that are off
topic, my useful bandwidth from this newsgroup is running about
181-retrieved to 288-available or about 63%. I find that I spend
*way* less time trying to teach pigs to dance and much more time
actually accomplishing gainful activity.... like boating.

I highly recommend that any poster interested in boating procure
adequate software to filter out the off-topic vandals and stay here
and continue to post on-topic responses.

To leave this group and go elsewhere only accomplishes what these OT
posters desire.... summed up by the response, "Bye. There's no
door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass." I don't
know quite what it is that they hate about rec.boats, nor do I
understand there motivations, however, I do know that leaving only
achieves their goals at the expense of you giving up what can be a
rewarding and valuable resource.

Think about it..... and stay.



Harry Krawse seems to be your "textbook example" of what is wrong with

this
NG. Combined with Chuck Gould they have managed to take this NG from a
boating NG to a political one.

But I see you have not filtered him out as you respond to some of his

posts.

Will you be doing so in the near future? And have you add Chuck to your
ignore filter also? Or is it only the people who have different

political
views (from yours) that you filter and bitch about?

Me thinks so.


You know. I missed one important point. If you come here for boating
information, do you not mourn the loss of a person with over 30 years
of technical boating know-how?



I could care less about Chuck leaving. Harry and Chuck brought about the
downturn of this forum. So I hope the door hits him in the arse on his way
out.





Is your (erroneous) assessment of my political convictions more
important that the possible loss of such an able boating contributor?


Exlain that to me again Eugene. I don't understand your question.



Or do you really care? About boats, that is?



I care about boats. But less now than I used to as I sold mine due to my
wifes medical condition.





jim-- March 27th 04 01:04 AM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:41:54 -0500, "jim--" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .

Harry Krawse seems to be your "textbook example" of what is wrong with

this
NG. Combined with Chuck Gould they have managed to take this NG from

a
boating NG to a political one.

But I see you have not filtered him out as you respond to some of his

posts.

Will you be doing so in the near future? And have you add Chuck to

your
ignore filter also? Or is it only the people who have different

political
views (from yours) that you filter and bitch about?

Me thinks so.


Jim,

I have told Harry that he posts too much off topic. He does.

My standard, and it is admittedly somewhat subjective, is how much a
person *does* post on topic vs. his/her total posts tempered with
their stated intent. Harry has always been civil to me, even though
we stood toe-to-toe when I supported Bush in the last election. I
questioned his position, his sources, and his conclusions.... net
result was that (1) he was always a gentleman about it and (2) I found
*myself* posting *WAY* too much off topic. I filter most of Harry's
posts by filters created to cleanse my downloads of off topic content,
whether it be liberal, conservative, Republican, Democrat, whatever.
*ANY* OT content (detected by the software) goes in the bozo bin
without regard to the poster's identity.

My *REAL PROBLEM(s)* have been with those who almost *NEVER* (or truly
never) post on topic. They come here to disrupt the newsgroup for
their own selfish reasons. Some have gone to the extreme lengths of
posting hundreds of off topic posts, admitting that they never come
here to discuss boating (since they go to other sites for ON-topic
posts) and then having the unmitigated gall to secretively email
those alternate sites as the alternative to get away from their
disruptive OT postings. Clearly, their hate is directed at rec.boats.
I don't get it. Do you?

Understand that nearly all of my filters relate to *content* not
identities. The few people that I have killfiled by name or alias
have earned that dubious distinction by going out of their way to be
purposefully incendiary and predominantly off topic.

Bait *me* and you will *surely* end up in the bozo-bin. Such was
NOYB's fate.


You know... whatever you are using for a newsreader isn't clever
enough to remove signatures. How about editing the chaff out?


Show me whe

1. Harry does not insult someone in his reply to their post disagreeing
with his.


He hasn't insulted me. He has made posts to people that are probably
inappropriate, but these tend to be those that come here to be
incendiary. If you are so inclined, "Live by the sword, die by the
sword." I don't care to take part.

2. Harry posts boating related topics.


Have at it, if you are really interested:
http://tinyurl.com/278a3


*He* is the center of the problem. Concentrate your efforts (to improve

the
group) at him.


You are blind to the point that *ALL* off topic posts are equally to
blame. If *you* stop contributing to the problem, others will stop,
too. Do you want them to stop?


Your allegiance to the man is clear. No need for any further discussion.



John H March 27th 04 01:22 AM

Leaving The Newsgroup
 
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:41:01 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


John H wrote in message
.. .

I don't even live in Texas or Florida!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


We can't hold Maryland responsible for that!

And I sure as *hell* don't live in Mareeland!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H March 27th 04 01:22 AM

Leaving The Newsgroup
 
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:33:13 GMT, "Peter Pan"
wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

John H wrote in message
...

I don't even live in Texas or Florida!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


We can't hold Maryland responsible for that!



That explains a lot. I live in FL and my sister (who IMO is totally wacky),
lives in MD. I always blame it on the wacky mental vibrations sent from DC.
:)

I don't live in Maryland! Harry K. lives in Maryland. Need I say more?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Bombardier003 March 27th 04 01:25 AM

Leaving The Newsgroup
 
There's no door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass.

What a piece of work!
Insult someone who actually knew what he was talking about.


Agreed.... Pertaining to NOYB and NYUK, obviously two individuals of which it's
difficult to reply directly to them without sinking to an astounding low level
whereas one would be required to rattle off in obscenities of which they might
be able to comprehend.

The replies, comments of these two individuals..... well, one must simply
consider the source. I'm sure there are many that never got quite past the
fourth grade.

Makes one wonder... Do they realize that they're giving rednecks a bad name?

My first time here.... and last. Cya.

NOYB March 27th 04 01:44 AM

Leaving The Newsgroup
 

"Bombardier003" wrote in message
...
There's no door...or I'd warn you not to let it hit you in the ass.

What a piece of work!
Insult someone who actually knew what he was talking about.


Agreed.... Pertaining to NOYB and NYUK, obviously two individuals of which

it's
difficult to reply directly to them without sinking to an astounding low

level
whereas one would be required to rattle off in obscenities of which they

might
be able to comprehend.

The replies, comments of these two individuals..... well, one must simply
consider the source. I'm sure there are many that never got quite past the
fourth grade.

Makes one wonder... Do they realize that they're giving rednecks a bad

name?

Me? A redneck who never got past fourth grade? Welcome to the newsgroup,
newbie!



NOYB March 27th 04 01:46 AM

Leaving The Newsgroup
 
I never insulted Gene either. He just found it frustrating and impossible
to keep up with my razor-sharp mind.


"jim--" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:41:54 -0500, "jim--" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .

Harry Krawse seems to be your "textbook example" of what is wrong

with
this
NG. Combined with Chuck Gould they have managed to take this NG

from
a
boating NG to a political one.

But I see you have not filtered him out as you respond to some of

his
posts.

Will you be doing so in the near future? And have you add Chuck to

your
ignore filter also? Or is it only the people who have different
political
views (from yours) that you filter and bitch about?

Me thinks so.


Jim,

I have told Harry that he posts too much off topic. He does.

My standard, and it is admittedly somewhat subjective, is how much a
person *does* post on topic vs. his/her total posts tempered with
their stated intent. Harry has always been civil to me, even though
we stood toe-to-toe when I supported Bush in the last election. I
questioned his position, his sources, and his conclusions.... net
result was that (1) he was always a gentleman about it and (2) I

found
*myself* posting *WAY* too much off topic. I filter most of Harry's
posts by filters created to cleanse my downloads of off topic

content,
whether it be liberal, conservative, Republican, Democrat, whatever.
*ANY* OT content (detected by the software) goes in the bozo bin
without regard to the poster's identity.

My *REAL PROBLEM(s)* have been with those who almost *NEVER* (or

truly
never) post on topic. They come here to disrupt the newsgroup for
their own selfish reasons. Some have gone to the extreme lengths of
posting hundreds of off topic posts, admitting that they never come
here to discuss boating (since they go to other sites for ON-topic
posts) and then having the unmitigated gall to secretively email
those alternate sites as the alternative to get away from their
disruptive OT postings. Clearly, their hate is directed at

rec.boats.
I don't get it. Do you?

Understand that nearly all of my filters relate to *content* not
identities. The few people that I have killfiled by name or alias
have earned that dubious distinction by going out of their way to be
purposefully incendiary and predominantly off topic.

Bait *me* and you will *surely* end up in the bozo-bin. Such was
NOYB's fate.


You know... whatever you are using for a newsreader isn't clever
enough to remove signatures. How about editing the chaff out?


Show me whe

1. Harry does not insult someone in his reply to their post

disagreeing
with his.


He hasn't insulted me. He has made posts to people that are probably
inappropriate, but these tend to be those that come here to be
incendiary. If you are so inclined, "Live by the sword, die by the
sword." I don't care to take part.

2. Harry posts boating related topics.


Have at it, if you are really interested:
http://tinyurl.com/278a3


*He* is the center of the problem. Concentrate your efforts (to

improve
the
group) at him.


You are blind to the point that *ALL* off topic posts are equally to
blame. If *you* stop contributing to the problem, others will stop,
too. Do you want them to stop?


Your allegiance to the man is clear. No need for any further discussion.







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