"DSK" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
Just read your opinions over the last couple of years and you will see
the
inference.

Your inference is wrong. Not everybody that hates Bush likes Clinton.


How would you even speculate that it would not have happened. It was
already attempted to take down the WTC with a truck bomb.


Yes, that's true. It was a much smaller operation. And the right-wing
loudmouths often overlook the fact that the people who did it are in
jail... and have been since long before Bush took office.



Run by the same group of ringleaders. And the fact the building did not
collapse was luck. The fact they tried and failed actually saved lives on
9/11. There were people who said to stay in the building it was safe and
those that had been through the earlier event, were smart enough to say.
Nah. We're leaving. The locals are in jail, but the financiers and planers
aren't.


... And the planing
and training for 9/11 had to take more than 9 months.

Sure... the real crazies have been out there, and working devotedly, for
a long time. But when Bush won the election, the behind the scenes
people who can get serious about planning & financing such a large
operation got involved where they might have stayed out. Look who
benefitted financially from the Sept 11th attacks.


... You have to be really
biased to think it would not have happened under another candidate.
Hell,
the Muslim extremists are waging war all over the world on those they
figure
are not pure and chosen. Look at Algeria. 100 of thousands to killed
and
mutilated people. They of the wrong branch of Islam.


Yes but many of those particular crazies are not into attacking *us*.



You think it is not the same wing of crazies? They are trying to spread
their brand of Islam to the world, and will not be happy until they succeed
or get to those 72 Virgins. Not the ones Don White is dreaming about.



The FACT is that Bush acted like a chicken**** on Sept 11th. Anybody can
see that, but some prefer to deny the obvious.

DSK




The Secret Service always tried to keep the President out of harms way.
And
you have planes crashing into buildings in different parts of the USA
and
you think he is not in danger?

The President was in less danger than anybody in NYC or DC. And sure,
it's their job to get him out of danger... but he's the President. A
leader, a brave man, would have looked at the situation and said, 'there
is no immediate threat. Let's think this over and take some action.'
Instead he simply ran like a rabbit, making several false public
statements and being led around by the nose.

That's chicken****.

Maybe that's a bit harsh... let's just say it falls far short of the
standard of leadership I expect... and that the U.S. needs.

DSK



How the hell you think he was not in assumed to be in danger, with planes
crashing in different locations? Planes still flying? That's Bull****!

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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The locals are in jail, but the financiers and planers
aren't.

You should write to your leader and ask him why he helped the financiers
leave the country so quickly. Nobody likes to discuss that.

Calif Bill wrote:
Run by the same group of ringleaders. And the fact the building did not
collapse was luck.

Luck, and that it was built better than they knew.

As for getting the ringleaders, that's always the illusive goal, isn't
it? Same with the drug war. And for every ringleader that *does* get
caught, there's a huge expensive legal battle to follow, and an eager
(and possibly more dangerously competent) #2 man to fill the shoes.

That is not to say that I think it's a waste of time going after them...
just that it's an order of magnitude (maybe several) more complex &
difficult to find and successfully prosecute them, than it is to get the
operatives & agents.

Meanwhile, it appears that President Bush is having a lack of success at
getting the ringleaders, too. Any comment on that Calif Bill? So far the
only ones he's gaffed are from Iraq... which is pretty much of a
sideshow & a red herring in the war on terrorism.


...The fact they tried and failed actually saved lives on
9/11. There were people who said to stay in the building it was safe and
those that had been through the earlier event, were smart enough to say.
Nah. We're leaving. The locals are in jail, but the financiers and planers
aren't.

A lot of the financiers, and possibly some of the planners, are being
actively shielded by the Bush Administration. Why do *you* think they
are stonewalling the Sept 11th investigation? Why do *you* think that so
many Saudi officials, and the Bin Laden family, were all given free
rides to secure locations? I don't think that BushCo was actually
complicit, I think they just had their heads in the sand because after
all, Clinton getting a blow job was more important... and they are
arrogantly positive that their 'friends' must be above suspicion. In
fact John Ashcroft seems to think it's a point of law.

DSK