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Most US boaters are probably now aware that returning after a cruise in
Canadian waters will be far more complicated than in previous years.

I just received a communication from a boater who has successfully
completed the I-68 process, and here is what he reports was required:

1. He had to make a specific appointment at a US Customs office.
2. Customs required 3 passport size photos, additionally demanding that
the photos be high resolution and printed on a high-quality photo
paper.
3. Original (no photocopies) current vessel documentation and state
registration. Undocumented vessels will be allowed to present only a
current state registration.
4. Passports for each family member
5. $16 per person (maximum of $32 per family) in the exact amount of
cash or a check. (No credit cards. "Family members" are restricted to
husband and wife, children under 21 years of age, or
the parents of the husband and/or wife.

The I-68 form states it is intended for use "Only for vessels under
5 tons", but it is being pressed into service by Customs this year as
there is no form that has been developed for the new requirements
pertaining to larger vessels.

Only with an I-68 or a NEXUS clearance will a boater be able to "check
in" by telephone when returning to the US. Boaters without I-68 or
NEXUS status will be required to report at a US Customs port of entry
for examination. At that port of entry, boaters will be required to
prove, "to the satisfaction of the Customs Officer", the citzenship and
residence status of all persons aboard the boat. This will effectively
require a passport, despite any rumors that "Bush did away with the
passports for Canada thing." Passports are not officially required, but
you're just rolling the dice whether your examining Customs Officer
will accept anything less as satisfactory.

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Most US boaters are probably now aware that returning after a cruise in
Canadian waters will be far more complicated than in previous years.

I just received a communication from a boater who has successfully
completed the I-68 process, and here is what he reports was required:

1. He had to make a specific appointment at a US Customs office.
2. Customs required 3 passport size photos, additionally demanding that
the photos be high resolution and printed on a high-quality photo
paper.
3. Original (no photocopies) current vessel documentation and state
registration. Undocumented vessels will be allowed to present only a
current state registration.
4. Passports for each family member
5. $16 per person (maximum of $32 per family) in the exact amount of
cash or a check. (No credit cards. "Family members" are restricted to
husband and wife, children under 21 years of age, or
the parents of the husband and/or wife.

The I-68 form states it is intended for use "Only for vessels under
5 tons", but it is being pressed into service by Customs this year as
there is no form that has been developed for the new requirements
pertaining to larger vessels.

Only with an I-68 or a NEXUS clearance will a boater be able to "check
in" by telephone when returning to the US. Boaters without I-68 or
NEXUS status will be required to report at a US Customs port of entry
for examination. At that port of entry, boaters will be required to
prove, "to the satisfaction of the Customs Officer", the citzenship and
residence status of all persons aboard the boat. This will effectively
require a passport, despite any rumors that "Bush did away with the
passports for Canada thing." Passports are not officially required, but
you're just rolling the dice whether your examining Customs Officer
will accept anything less as satisfactory.


Sounds like a good first step in securing our borders. We have had the
procedures in place for years. Why Washington State did not is beyond me.
Welcome to the club.

It sounds like you want better security Chuck (according to you past posts)
but it looks like you are not willing to pay the dues.

I see a similar attitude in your previous complaint about a reduction in
operating hours at a Seattle area bridge/canal in an attempt to reduce
Federal expenditures. As long as it does not affect you it is OK. If it
does it is a bad idea.

The old NOMBY attitude. ;-)



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Most US boaters are probably now aware that returning after a cruise in
Canadian waters will be far more complicated than in previous years.

I just received a communication from a boater who has successfully
completed the I-68 process, and here is what he reports was required:

1. He had to make a specific appointment at a US Customs office.
2. Customs required 3 passport size photos, additionally demanding that
the photos be high resolution and printed on a high-quality photo
paper.
3. Original (no photocopies) current vessel documentation and state
registration. Undocumented vessels will be allowed to present only a
current state registration.
4. Passports for each family member
5. $16 per person (maximum of $32 per family) in the exact amount of
cash or a check. (No credit cards. "Family members" are restricted to
husband and wife, children under 21 years of age, or
the parents of the husband and/or wife.

The I-68 form states it is intended for use "Only for vessels under
5 tons", but it is being pressed into service by Customs this year as
there is no form that has been developed for the new requirements
pertaining to larger vessels.

Only with an I-68 or a NEXUS clearance will a boater be able to "check
in" by telephone when returning to the US. Boaters without I-68 or
NEXUS status will be required to report at a US Customs port of entry
for examination. At that port of entry, boaters will be required to
prove, "to the satisfaction of the Customs Officer", the citzenship and
residence status of all persons aboard the boat. This will effectively
require a passport, despite any rumors that "Bush did away with the
passports for Canada thing." Passports are not officially required, but
you're just rolling the dice whether your examining Customs Officer
will accept anything less as satisfactory.


Sounds like a good first step in securing our borders. We have had the
procedures in place for years. Why Washington State did not is beyond me.
Welcome to the club.

It sounds like you want better security Chuck (according to you past
posts) but it looks like you are not willing to pay the dues.

I see a similar attitude in your previous complaint about a reduction in
operating hours at a Seattle area bridge/canal in an attempt to reduce
Federal expenditures. As long as it does not affect you it is OK. If
it does it is a bad idea.

The old NIMBY attitude. ;-)




edit: NIMBY not NOMBY


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On 4 May 2005 13:57:12 -0700, wrote:

Most US boaters are probably now aware that returning after a cruise in
Canadian waters will be far more complicated than in previous years.

I just received a communication from a boater who has successfully
completed the I-68 process, and here is what he reports was required:


What is meant by "cruise"? And is this for American Citizens
returning to the States?

1. He had to make a specific appointment at a US Customs office.
2. Customs required 3 passport size photos, additionally demanding that
the photos be high resolution and printed on a high-quality photo
paper.
3. Original (no photocopies) current vessel documentation and state
registration. Undocumented vessels will be allowed to present only a
current state registration.
4. Passports for each family member
5. $16 per person (maximum of $32 per family) in the exact amount of
cash or a check. (No credit cards. "Family members" are restricted to
husband and wife, children under 21 years of age, or
the parents of the husband and/or wife.

The I-68 form states it is intended for use "Only for vessels under
5 tons", but it is being pressed into service by Customs this year as
there is no form that has been developed for the new requirements
pertaining to larger vessels.

Only with an I-68 or a NEXUS clearance will a boater be able to "check
in" by telephone when returning to the US. Boaters without I-68 or
NEXUS status will be required to report at a US Customs port of entry
for examination. At that port of entry, boaters will be required to
prove, "to the satisfaction of the Customs Officer", the citzenship and
residence status of all persons aboard the boat. This will effectively
require a passport, despite any rumors that "Bush did away with the
passports for Canada thing." Passports are not officially required, but
you're just rolling the dice whether your examining Customs Officer
will accept anything less as satisfactory.


It all sound like a bunch of make work for the Customs Service.

A passport and vessel identification should be more than sufficient.

Later,

Tom

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What is meant by "cruise"? And is this for American Citizens
returning to the States?



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1. He had to make a specific appointment at a US Customs office.
2. Customs required 3 passport size photos, additionally demanding

that
the photos be high resolution and printed on a high-quality photo
paper.
3. Original (no photocopies) current vessel documentation and state
registration. Undocumented vessels will be allowed to present only a
current state registration.
4. Passports for each family member
5. $16 per person (maximum of $32 per family) in the exact amount of
cash or a check. (No credit cards. "Family members" are restricted to
husband and wife, children under 21 years of age, or
the parents of the husband and/or wife.


The I-68 form states it is intended for use "Only for vessels under
5 tons", but it is being pressed into service by Customs this year as
there is no form that has been developed for the new requirements
pertaining to larger vessels.



Only with an I-68 or a NEXUS clearance will a boater be able to "check


in" by telephone when returning to the US. Boaters without I-68 or
NEXUS status will be required to report at a US Customs port of entry
for examination. At that port of entry, boaters will be required to
prove, "to the satisfaction of the Customs Officer", the citzenship

and
residence status of all persons aboard the boat. This will effectively


require a passport, despite any rumors that "Bush did away with the
passports for Canada thing." Passports are not officially required,

but
you're just rolling the dice whether your examining Customs Officer
will accept anything less as satisfactory.




It all sound like a bunch of make work for the Customs Service.

A passport and vessel identification should be more than sufficient.


Later,


Tom


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A "cruise" into Canadian waters would involve any event for which you
had to clear Canadian Customs. Landing, anchoring, or making close
contact with a pier or another vessel.

Yes, this is for US citizens returning home from Canada.

Yes, you can still cross the border with a passport and vessel ID- but
you will have to do it in person at a US Customs station rather than
checking in by phone. I-68 or NEXUS is for the folks who want to check
in by phone.



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The I-68 procedure has only been in place, in the past, for the
smallest boats. I'm surprised that your Maxum apparently fell into that
category. Over 30-feet, we have always had to pay an annual fee of $25
for customs inspection and buy a decal.

I'm absolutely confident that the terrorists hoping to cross into the
US from Canada won't be doing so on a 38-foot Bayliner or a 42 Grand
Banks.....or if they are they won't land anywhere near one of the few
Customs offices in the area. Darn. They'll just have to cross one of
those unpatrolled little side streets where it's "Whiterock, BC" on the
north side of the road and "Blaine, WA" on the other.

Our borders are a seive, and (especially the Mexican border)
deliberately so. The wages of the poorest 20% of Americans are
artificially deflated by competition from illegal aliens, (willing to
work without benefits, off the clock, and for a fraction of minimum
wage)....thereby saving all employers some money- whether they directly
employ the illegals or not.

I believe that the US will eventually learn from the European
experience and deal with terrorists
as criminals, rather than military agents of the currently-out-of-favor
dictator in whatever country we randomly choose to name. The smoke and
fumes surrounding the crackdown on recreational boaters is a poor
excuse for genuine efforts to control the borders.

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The I-68 procedure has only been in place, in the past, for the
smallest boats. I'm surprised that your Maxum apparently fell into that
category. Over 30-feet, we have always had to pay an annual fee of $25
for customs inspection and buy a decal.


My Maxum was 32 feet. And we never determined the need for the I-68 on boat
size (to my recolllection).


I'm absolutely confident that the terrorists hoping to cross into the
US from Canada won't be doing so on a 38-foot Bayliner or a 42 Grand
Banks.....or if they are they won't land anywhere near one of the few
Customs offices in the area. Darn. They'll just have to cross one of
those unpatrolled little side streets where it's "Whiterock, BC" on the
north side of the road and "Blaine, WA" on the other.


Agreed to a point. But why ignore the water access?



Our borders are a seive, and (especially the Mexican border)
deliberately so. The wages of the poorest 20% of Americans are
artificially deflated by competition from illegal aliens, (willing to
work without benefits, off the clock, and for a fraction of minimum
wage)....thereby saving all employers some money- whether they directly
employ the illegals or not.


Agree to a point. We need to use the cheap Mexican labor but do so with
some control.
Right now they can purchase a SS number and green card and they are set to
go.

The manual labor jobs taken up by the Mexican immigrants are not wanted by
most Americans. These jobs are honorable and necessary.


I believe that the US will eventually learn from the European
experience and deal with terrorists
as criminals, rather than military agents of the currently-out-of-favor
dictator in whatever country we randomly choose to name. The smoke and
fumes surrounding the crackdown on recreational boaters is a poor
excuse for genuine efforts to control the borders.



I disagree. It is a good start.


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I'm absolutely confident that the terrorists hoping to cross into the
US from Canada won't be doing so on a 38-foot Bayliner


Not without towing insurance.

-W I had to



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Most US boaters are probably now aware that returning after a cruise in
Canadian waters will be far more complicated than in previous years.

I just received a communication from a boater who has successfully
completed the I-68 process, and here is what he reports was required:

1. He had to make a specific appointment at a US Customs office.
2. Customs required 3 passport size photos, additionally demanding that
the photos be high resolution and printed on a high-quality photo
paper.
3. Original (no photocopies) current vessel documentation and state
registration. Undocumented vessels will be allowed to present only a
current state registration.
4. Passports for each family member
5. $16 per person (maximum of $32 per family) in the exact amount of
cash or a check. (No credit cards. "Family members" are restricted to
husband and wife, children under 21 years of age, or
the parents of the husband and/or wife.

The I-68 form states it is intended for use "Only for vessels under
5 tons", but it is being pressed into service by Customs this year as
there is no form that has been developed for the new requirements
pertaining to larger vessels.

Only with an I-68 or a NEXUS clearance will a boater be able to "check
in" by telephone when returning to the US. Boaters without I-68 or
NEXUS status will be required to report at a US Customs port of entry
for examination. At that port of entry, boaters will be required to
prove, "to the satisfaction of the Customs Officer", the citzenship and
residence status of all persons aboard the boat. This will effectively
require a passport, despite any rumors that "Bush did away with the
passports for Canada thing." Passports are not officially required, but
you're just rolling the dice whether your examining Customs Officer
will accept anything less as satisfactory.

Sounds like the Canadian "Remote Area Border Crossing Permit" that canoeists
are required to have to wander across the border in Quetico.

del cecchi


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