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On Thu, 05 May 2005 07:47:03 -0400, thunder
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On Wed, 04 May 2005 20:03:41 -0400, JimH wrote:


No one is blaming the reserve troops.....they did what they were
ordered
to do. The blame goes to the person actually ordering the troops to
use
live ammo.

While the Kent State shootings were a tragedy for all concerned, the
investigation afterwords is truly an embarrassment for this country.
In
the bitter divisiveness of that time, the search for any truth took a
backseat.

http://members.aol.com/nrbooks/chronol.htm

For those that are interested, a rather comprehensive site covering the
incident:

http://www.may4archive.org/index.shtml

You know what amazes me about this?

It still engenders passions and debate 30/35 years later.

I wonder why? It's not like anybody is ever going to know the
complete truth of what happened so why bother?

Seriously, without looking it up, can you name the girl in the famous
photograph? I sure as hell can't and that photo still haunts me when
I think of Kent State.

We should just leave it alone.

Later,

Tom



One must learn from past mistakes. Using your logic one should not
discuss any past historical events.

There is nothing wrong with this discussion Tom.

Except that it's not boat related, *AND* you didn't put OT in front of it.

You've jumped into several OT posts (that were marked as such), and
complained that people keep posting OT. And now you've created your own
OT post.


So sue me. Jeesh....have a bad day dude?

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On Thu, 05 May 2005 07:47:03 -0400, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 04 May 2005 20:03:41 -0400, JimH wrote:


No one is blaming the reserve troops.....they did what they were
ordered
to do. The blame goes to the person actually ordering the troops to
use
live ammo.

While the Kent State shootings were a tragedy for all concerned, the
investigation afterwords is truly an embarrassment for this country. In
the bitter divisiveness of that time, the search for any truth took a
backseat.

http://members.aol.com/nrbooks/chronol.htm

For those that are interested, a rather comprehensive site covering the
incident:

http://www.may4archive.org/index.shtml

You know what amazes me about this?

It still engenders passions and debate 30/35 years later.

I wonder why? It's not like anybody is ever going to know the
complete truth of what happened so why bother?

Seriously, without looking it up, can you name the girl in the famous
photograph? I sure as hell can't and that photo still haunts me when
I think of Kent State.

We should just leave it alone.

Later,

Tom



One must learn from past mistakes. Using your logic one should not
discuss any past historical events.

There is nothing wrong with this discussion Tom.

Except that it's not boat related, *AND* you didn't put OT in front of
it.

You've jumped into several OT posts (that were marked as such), and
complained that people keep posting OT. And now you've created your own
OT post.


So sue me. Jeesh....have a bad day dude?

No. You put up an inflammatory OT post, and then got ****ed that I took the
opposite side of the argument from you.

On Thu, 05 May 2005 10:09:59 -0400, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2005 12:36:55 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


You know what amazes me about this?

It still engenders passions and debate 30/35 years later.

I wonder why? It's not like anybody is ever going to know the complete
truth of what happened so why bother?

Perhaps that is why it still engenders passions, not only do we not know
the complete truth, we know very little of any truth about Kent State.
Perhaps if there was a truth, or a valid investigation of the events,
there would be a closure.

Two words - Grassy Knoll. :)

Later,

Tom

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On Thu, 05 May 2005 07:47:03 -0400, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 04 May 2005 20:03:41 -0400, JimH wrote:


No one is blaming the reserve troops.....they did what they were
ordered
to do. The blame goes to the person actually ordering the troops to
use
live ammo.

While the Kent State shootings were a tragedy for all concerned, the
investigation afterwords is truly an embarrassment for this country.
In
the bitter divisiveness of that time, the search for any truth took a
backseat.

http://members.aol.com/nrbooks/chronol.htm

For those that are interested, a rather comprehensive site covering
the
incident:

http://www.may4archive.org/index.shtml

You know what amazes me about this?

It still engenders passions and debate 30/35 years later.

I wonder why? It's not like anybody is ever going to know the
complete truth of what happened so why bother?

Seriously, without looking it up, can you name the girl in the famous
photograph? I sure as hell can't and that photo still haunts me when
I think of Kent State.

We should just leave it alone.

Later,

Tom



One must learn from past mistakes. Using your logic one should not
discuss any past historical events.

There is nothing wrong with this discussion Tom.

Except that it's not boat related, *AND* you didn't put OT in front of
it.

You've jumped into several OT posts (that were marked as such), and
complained that people keep posting OT. And now you've created your own
OT post.


So sue me. Jeesh....have a bad day dude?

No. You put up an inflammatory OT post, and then got ****ed that I took
the opposite side of the argument from you.


Inflammatory? I don't think so.

OT? Yep. My bad.

Got ****ed? Nope. Just thought you posted some stupid comments.

Let's agree to disagree and move on.

Peace.

Italy Anonymous Remailer wrote:
On 4 May 2005, wrote:
JimH wrote:
To the 4 students killed at Kent State on May 4, 1970, may you
continue to
rest in peace.

http://kent.state.tripod.com/

I second that.

Obviously you never served your country. And, you aren't doing it
now.

Why do you say that? Because I'm patriotic, and believe that we should
have the freedom to assemble peacefully?

To the 4 students killed at Kent State on May 4, 1970, may you continue to
rest in peace.

http://kent.state.tripod.com/


NOYB wrote:
Peace? If they were acting peacefully, they wouldn't have been shot. How
many students who stayed in their rooms studying were shot that day?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm?


My goodness, what a compassionate conservative you are. No respect for
the dead and no sympathy for the families.

Let me ask you this... how many students killed at Kent State were
walking across a parking lot, far from the protests, and had not taken
part in any of the protests? Hmmmm??

DSK