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NOYB May 3rd 05 06:46 PM


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Gould,
Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect
substantially more construction and substantially higher costs.


Seattle
Single-family new house construction building permits:
a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800
b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300
c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200
d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900
e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800
f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800
g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100
h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100


Naples:
Single-family new house construction building permits:
a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900
b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000
c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800
d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400
e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200
f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200
g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700
h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800
http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html

This was for *all* zip codes in Naples.

I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at
least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there
a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could
look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be
higher than the Atherton, CA median home price.




I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most
expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods.

Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples.
There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS.
They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are
over $10 million.

In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from
$2.2 million to $6.69 million.

Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on
Forbe's list.


You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable
community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip
code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local
neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am
in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on
the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community
and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next
town south.



The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has dozens
over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is somewhere
close to $4-5million.






Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died.
Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold
for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down.

http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml


Here are some more listings in the Port Royal section of Naples, Bill:
http://tinyurl.com/7dvef



NOYB May 3rd 05 06:56 PM


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"Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message
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Gould,
Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect
substantially more construction and substantially higher costs.


Seattle
Single-family new house construction building permits:
a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800
b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300
c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200
d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900
e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800
f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800
g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100
h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100


Naples:
Single-family new house construction building permits:
a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900
b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000
c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800
d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400
e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200
f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200
g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700
h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800
http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html

This was for *all* zip codes in Naples.

I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are
at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was
there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you
could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would
be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price.




I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most
expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods.

Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples.
There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS.
They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are
over $10 million.

In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from
$2.2 million to $6.69 million.

Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on
Forbe's list.


You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable
community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip
code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the
local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what
price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of
about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills
gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area.
Sunol is the next town south.


The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has dozens
over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is somewhere
close to $4-5million.






Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died.
Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold
for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down.

http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml


Here are some more listings in the Port Royal section of Naples, Bill:
http://tinyurl.com/7dvef


When you visit that the aforementioned site, Bill, pay close attention to
the fact that the first two listings ($32.9 million each) are just for the
*lots*.





Bill McKee May 4th 05 05:53 AM


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snip the drivel

Hey, Bill, it's cute how you follow Smither's lead and make yourself a
new name every now and then. Easier to cover your dumb mistakes, huh?


Only 2nd name. New computer. Now, how many names have you gone by kevin?



Bill McKee May 4th 05 05:55 AM


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Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died.
Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold
for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down.

http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml



This story is 3 years old. Prices have nearly doubled since then.


What do you think Larry's house would sell for today? $50mm?



Bill McKee May 4th 05 05:55 AM


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"Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message
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Gould,
Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect
substantially more construction and substantially higher costs.


Seattle
Single-family new house construction building permits:
a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800
b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300
c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200
d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900
e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800
f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800
g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100
h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100


Naples:
Single-family new house construction building permits:
a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900
b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000
c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800
d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400
e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200
f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200
g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700
h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800
http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html

This was for *all* zip codes in Naples.

I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are
at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was
there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you
could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price
would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price.




I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most
expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods.

Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples.
There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS.
They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are
over $10 million.

In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from
$2.2 million to $6.69 million.

Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on
Forbe's list.


You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a
stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples
zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the
local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what
price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of
about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills
gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area.
Sunol is the next town south.


The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has
dozens over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is
somewhere close to $4-5million.






Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died.
Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold
for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down.

http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml


Here are some more listings in the Port Royal section of Naples, Bill:
http://tinyurl.com/7dvef


When you visit that the aforementioned site, Bill, pay close attention to
the fact that the first two listings ($32.9 million each) are just for the
*lots*.





Tell Steven Forbes.



SoFarrell May 4th 05 12:24 PM


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Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died.
Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold
for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down.

http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml



This story is 3 years old. Prices have nearly doubled since then.


What do you think Larry's house would sell for today? $50mm?

You guys aren't talking about the bass tourneyment ratings, are you? House
prices? Hope my area stays in the bottom 150, so I can afford to liv ehere.



NOYB May 4th 05 12:51 PM


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Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died.
Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold
for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down.

http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml


This story is 3 years old. Prices have nearly doubled since then.


What do you think Larry's house would sell for today? $50mm?


You guys aren't talking about the bass tourneyment ratings, are you?
House prices? Hope my area stays in the bottom 150, so I can afford to
liv ehere.



You're got the right attitude. Better to live in a decent area where the
prices aren't going through the roof.


Bullpoop. If you're in the early years of your career (aka--debt
acquisition years), it's better if your home is appreciating rapidly so that
you can consolidate the debt into something that appreciates rather than
depreciates, *and* offers a tax write-off of the interest.

If you're close to retirement, and your home is paid off, rapid appreciation
is even more important. It increases your net worth (good for your kids
when you die), and it provides an appreciating asset that you can draw funds
from (in the form of a reverse mortgage).

Unless you're new to a market and can't afford the hyperinflated prices,
*or* you live in an area that doesn't cap the yearly growth in property
taxes, there really isn't anything bad about rapid home appreciation.



NOYB May 4th 05 12:53 PM


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"Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message
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Gould,
Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have
expect substantially more construction and substantially higher
costs.


Seattle
Single-family new house construction building permits:
a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800
b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300
c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200
d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900
e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800
f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800
g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100
h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100


Naples:
Single-family new house construction building permits:
a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900
b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000
c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800
d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400
e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200
f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200
g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700
h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800
http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html

This was for *all* zip codes in Naples.

I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are
at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was
there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If
you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price
would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price.




I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most
expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced
neighborhoods.

Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples.
There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to
MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them
are over $10 million.

In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from
$2.2 million to $6.69 million.

Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on
Forbe's list.


You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a
stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your
naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many
outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling
and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a
price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20
million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the
Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south.


The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has
dozens over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is
somewhere close to $4-5million.






Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died.
Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold
for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down.

http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml

Here are some more listings in the Port Royal section of Naples, Bill:
http://tinyurl.com/7dvef


When you visit that the aforementioned site, Bill, pay close attention to
the fact that the first two listings ($32.9 million each) are just for
the *lots*.





Tell Steven Forbes.


Why tell him? He's not the one who gathered the data for the article.




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