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Are you in the top 150?
Is your zip code in the Forbes top 150 list?
http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/2005...0426homep.html Most are coastal locations...thus the connection to boating. Mine was rated 151. LOL |
JimH,
Harry's estate has it's own zip code, and two area codes and 8 species that were thought to be extinct. He did have 3 pair of Pileated Woodpeckers living in the woods, but he had to shot them because they were pecking on the doublewide trailer, making it difficult to nap in the afternoon. Try to top that one. ; ) "JimH" wrote in message ... Is your zip code in the Forbes top 150 list? http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/2005...0426homep.html Most are coastal locations...thus the connection to boating. Mine was rated 151. LOL |
"Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... JimH, Harry's estate has it's own zip code, and two area codes and 8 species that were thought to be extinct. He did have 3 pair of Pileated Woodpeckers living in the woods, but he had to shot them because they were pecking on the doublewide trailer, making it difficult to nap in the afternoon. Try to top that one. ; ) Why did you have to turn this thread sour with your post? |
More than you ever wanted to know about demographics. Got to his site
and enter a city. Larger cities can be examined by zip code: Examples: http://www.city-data.com/city/Avon-Lake-Ohio.html http://www.city-data.com/city/Seattle-Washington.html |
On 4/29/2005 2:27 PM, jps wrote:
In article , says... Is your zip code in the Forbes top 150 list? http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/2005...0426homep.html Most are coastal locations...thus the .... tenuous ... connection to boating. Mine was rated 151. LOL There must have been some mistake. I'm surprised that Medina, WA (home to Bill Gates) isn't higher than 98th place. There are some seriously expansive mansions there, on seriously expensive Lake Washington waterfront property no less. -- ~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat" "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." -Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows |
Gould,
Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 wrote in message oups.com... More than you ever wanted to know about demographics. Got to his site and enter a city. Larger cities can be examined by zip code: Examples: http://www.city-data.com/city/Avon-Lake-Ohio.html http://www.city-data.com/city/Seattle-Washington.html |
Dr. Dr. K. Grear Apr 29, 3:28 pm show options
Newsgroups: rec.boats From: "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime - Find messages by this author Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:28:38 -0400 Local: Fri,Apr 29 2005 3:28 pm Subject: Are you in the top 150? Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. ******** You have to read between the lines. There aren't any buildable S/F lots (or very few) left inside the city limits. I'll bet that 899 or more of the 914 SF "buildings" they show in 2003 were condos. If you were looking at free standing, single family homes you would see very few built recently. Seattle values are much higher than the list shows for most neighborhoods. A serious "fixer-upper" went for over $500k on the hill where we live, and the buyer was glad to get it. I doubt you'd find anything in the worst imaginable neighborhood or in any condition for less than $200k. According to a recent article in the local paper, it isn't uncommon for current sellers to have their asking prices bid *up* $60-70k by competing buyers. Frankly it's nuts. Why should my house be valued today at about 4 times what I paid for it in the early 90's? I've been bullish on real estate my entire life, but I think some of the folks just getting on the merry go round for the first time will be in for a rude awakening......hope not, but it could easily be. Reminds me of the stock market of just a few years ago, no price is too high because there's a "bigger fool" coming down the road. I'd be happy to see current prices cool off a bit and stabilize. |
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"Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. |
"NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. Go ask Steve Forbes. The fact your zip is not listed does not make you a lesser person. ;-) |
"JimH" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. Go ask Steve Forbes. The fact that your zip code is not listed does not make you a lesser person. ;-) edit |
Depends on the size of the zip code. I am between Sunol and Alamo. House
up the street, just sold, 1.6mm and down the street 2 blocks went for 825k. there are more and less expendsive. Bill "Garth Almgren" wrote in message ... On 4/29/2005 2:27 PM, jps wrote: In article , says... Is your zip code in the Forbes top 150 list? http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/2005...0426homep.html Most are coastal locations...thus the ... tenuous ... connection to boating. Mine was rated 151. LOL There must have been some mistake. I'm surprised that Medina, WA (home to Bill Gates) isn't higher than 98th place. There are some seriously expansive mansions there, on seriously expensive Lake Washington waterfront property no less. -- ~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat" "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." -Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows |
"NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. |
NOYB wrote:
snip... I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. Why would you want to be on any list that included Cleveland or Avon Lake? Where's your civic pride? |
"Harry.Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: NOYB wrote: snip... I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. Why would you want to be on any list that included Cleveland or Avon Lake? Where's your civic pride? Why anyone would want to live in an area because it was on that list is something I don't understand. I understand, you can not understand that they are the list because lots of people want to live in the area, and there are not enough homes to supplyhem all. Understand? |
"''Whew...glad my dippy little town of 3000 or so isn't on the list. Last
thing I want to see is population pressure and overinflated real estate values. We want minimal growth. Took a year to for all of us to successfully fight off a Wal-Mart superstore in our corner of the county."'""' krause,, first off you are on government assistance,, Second,, Wal-Mart is trying to unionize,, wouldn't one think that a two card carrying union slug like yourself would support more unionized jobs in your community?? I mean krause the unions preserved your jobs your entire career,,, now someone else needs them and you what,, blame Bush??? lol,,,, and you know all the other Presidents??? lol,,, ouch,,, No wonder this fat old single woman is with you full time ,, the civil servant social worker your 3rd wife,,, lol,,, it is probably a full time job for her,,, lol,,, part of her job,,, oooo my,,, no doubt "harry.krause" wrote in message ... wrote: More than you ever wanted to know about demographics. Got to his site and enter a city. Larger cities can be examined by zip code: Examples: http://www.city-data.com/city/Avon-Lake-Ohio.html http://www.city-data.com/city/Seattle-Washington.html Whew...glad my dippy little town of 3000 or so isn't on the list. Last thing I want to see is population pressure and overinflated real estate values. We want minimal growth. Took a year to for all of us to successfully fight off a Wal-Mart superstore in our corner of the county. -- Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him are destroying the once-great United States. |
JimH wrote: "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... JimH, Harry's estate has it's own zip code, and two area codes and 8 species that were thought to be extinct. He did have 3 pair of Pileated Woodpeckers living in the woods, but he had to shot them because they were pecking on the doublewide trailer, making it difficult to nap in the afternoon. Try to top that one. ; ) Why did you have to turn this thread sour with your post? That's the Smithers style, Jim. Sad but true. |
NOYB wrote: "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. Hehe!! I just KNEW ole NOYB would go off the hook when he seen that Naples wasn't on the list!!!!!!!! I was just sitting back quietly, knowing all too well the he just wouldn't be able to swallow the information given!!!!!! |
JimH wrote: Go ask Steve Forbes. The fact your zip is not listed does not make you a lesser person. ;-) It does in HIS eyes. |
"NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. You've listed 'average' cost, the list was 'median' There is a big difference. Also, I would hazard a guess that in many of those zip code few houses change hands and or hvae low denisty of housing. If you only had 5 houses sell, at 2.1mil, 2.1 mil, 2.0 mil and 100k and 100k, the median would be not reflect the true nature of the market . |
"Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. |
"P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. You've listed 'average' cost, the list was 'median' There is a big difference. Also, I would hazard a guess that in many of those zip code few houses change hands and or hvae low denisty of housing. If you only had 5 houses sell, at 2.1mil, 2.1 mil, 2.0 mil and 100k and 100k, the median would be not reflect the true nature of the market . Waterfront property does that. YOu can have a house selling for $300k...and the exact same one right across the street, but on direct-Gulf access could sell for $1.3 million. |
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. You've listed 'average' cost, the list was 'median' There is a big difference. Also, I would hazard a guess that in many of those zip code few houses change hands and or hvae low denisty of housing. If you only had 5 houses sell, at 2.1mil, 2.1 mil, 2.0 mil and 100k and 100k, the median would be not reflect the true nature of the market . Waterfront property does that. YOu can have a house selling for $300k...and the exact same one right across the street, but on direct-Gulf access could sell for $1.3 million. Same around here.......a 1200 s.f. ranch on a canal will run 350-400k, and half that or less without . |
Why did you have to turn this thread sour?
wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. Hehe!! I just KNEW ole NOYB would go off the hook when he seen that Naples wasn't on the list!!!!!!!! I was just sitting back quietly, knowing all too well the he just wouldn't be able to swallow the information given!!!!!! |
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south. |
"Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south. The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has dozens over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is somewhere close to $4-5million. |
"NOYB" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south. The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has dozens over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is somewhere close to $4-5million. Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died. Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down. http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml |
Bill McKee wrote: snip the drivel Hey, Bill, it's cute how you follow Smither's lead and make yourself a new name every now and then. Easier to cover your dumb mistakes, huh? |
"Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south. The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has dozens over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is somewhere close to $4-5million. Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died. Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down. http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml This story is 3 years old. Prices have nearly doubled since then. Top of the Market In an era of runaway real estate prices, here's a peek at the 20 most expensive homes sold in Collier and Lee counties last year. Collier County 1. $30,000,000 The talk of the town since the transaction was completed in April 2001, this deal in the Cutlass Cove section of Port Royal would make headlines just about anywhere in the world. For their money, the buyers got three properties: 1.45 acres of Gulf-front land with a one-story, nine-room home of nearly 6,000 square feet of living space; a 3/4-acre bayfront lot on the other side of Gordon Drive; and a vacant lot. The Gulf-front property, last sold in 1996 for $5.5 million, was valued at $10.2 million. The house, built in the 1960s and updated several times since, has been leased back to the seller for a year. It will be torn down and replaced with a home that reflects the value of the land but isn't a "megahome," says Pat Candito, the agent who sealed the deal. "The owners don't want something that looks like a hotel. They want something their grandkids can live in without having to run after them, telling them, 'Don't touch that.'" Candito says the buyers have lived in Naples four or five years and were looking for a "nice, large lot on the beach. What they got was a tremendous site." 2. $14,942,600 The only Old Naples property to make the cut-and one of just two top 10 transactions after Sept. 11-this deal included two pieces of prime real estate right on Gulf Shore Boulevard. At less than half of No. 1's top sales price, the New York City buyers got a three-story single-family home right on the beach on a lot about three-quarters of an acre. This property-without a house-last sold for $4.9 million in 1998. 3. $12,400,000 Just one of a dozen homes in the ultra-exclusive Strand in Pelican Bay and one of just two top sellers not in Port Royal, this four-story home has all the extras. Most importantly, it has a prized Gulf-front setting and wildlife preserves that block the view of neighboring houses, guaranteeing a perpetual fringe of green. Purchased by a Midwestern couple, the house has more than 9,000 square feet under air, five bedrooms, each with their own private balconies, six and one-half baths, a media room, wine room, garage space for six cars-the list goes on. Agents Ursula and Gerard J.L. Swart said it was love at first sight for the couple, who liked the home's "smaller" size compared to some of its 20,000-square-foot neighbors. They also surely adored the 3,091 square feet of balconies. "The top balcony has a fantastic view; it's just like being in the Mediterranean," says Gerard. "It was a quick decision once we found it for them." 4. $12,000,000 A vacant 1.28-acre lot with a lot of potential is what the buyers got for their $12 million. This Port Royal property will soon showcase a winter residence for the buyers. "They just wanted a spectacular view and found it in this property," said the selling agent. "There are not that many lots with that kind of view, except if the house is a teardown." The property nearly doubled in price in just a year, having last sold in April 2000 for $6.5 million-still quite a jump from its first recorded sale of $495,000 in 1982. 5. $11,000,000 A younger couple bought this already furnished 10,000-square-foot mega-mansion on Manowar Cove, an inland canal. "There's a million dollars in precast stone and an incredible home theater," says agent Mike McCumber, of Premiere Properties. Part of the attraction had to be the 100-foot floating dock covered in keystone. The couple's prized Ferraris can find shelter in a three-car garage and second garage with an elevator. "There's a bridge over a koi pond from the kitchen to the dock," says McCumber. "It's probably the nicest dock in Port Royal." Recently featured in Fortune as epitomizing the new, youthful faces of Naples' wealthy, the couple could have bought the home as a Valentine's Day present-the sale was finalized Feb. 15. The property alone is valued at $4.7 million. It brought $16,300 when it first sold in 1969. 6. $10,630,700 The buyers purchased a two-story home with 6,671 total square feet in Port Royal. The sale was the first ever for this Green Dolphin Lane property. 7. $10,500,000 Overlooking Old Harbour Cove, this home wasn't on the market long, says Premiere Properties' Tom Campbell. "It sold at that price because it's one of the most magical and well-built homes I've ever been in. This home has its own spirit." Featuring long water frontage, private courtyards, a unique guest house, and 7,287 total square feet, the two-story structure blends state-of-the-art technology with the "subtlety and classical sense of an older French home," says Campbell. The sales history of this home reflects a steady increase. It last sold for $1.1 million in 1996. The property first sold in 1978 for $90,000. 8. $10,350,000 The second-largest home on our list, this one-story Port Royal mansion boasts 8,389 total square feet and 7,315 square feet under air. Its $10.3 million sale price reflects a five-fold increase since the property last sold for $2.1 million in 1997. The price tag on this property increased by just $275,000-from $1.6 million to $1.875 million-between 1987 and 1992. 9. $9,500,000 Two full lots in Port Royal will eventually boast a great home with large gardens. This property, which overlooks Treasure Cove, enjoys one of the longest interior water views in Port Royal. Premiere Properties' Campbell says the place exudes peacefulness. The property last sold for $7.25 million in 2000. Other recorded sales were $4.9 million in 1999 and $2.5 million two years earlier. 10. $9,350,000 Husband-and-wife residents of New York City spent $9.3 million for this Port Royal home on Galleon Drive, but the wife says extensive remodeling will easily push the cost of the home to $10 million. One of just two of the top 10 deals that took place after Sept. 11, the house was purchased before it was finished, allowing the couple to put their own personal stamp on it. Although it's new, the wife says the home's classical architecture makes it timeless. Its unique appearance-it looks like a Greek temple-has caused it to be pointed out by passing tour boat guides. "There are many beautiful homes around, but I choose this because it's very different, very unique," she says. Overlooking a wide portion of Naples Bay, the house offers a picture-perfect view of sailboats on the bay. "It's just like something from a movie, all of these colorful boats," she notes. The two-story, 8,000-square-foot home has five bedrooms, a morning room, den/library, media room with theater-style seating for eight and features natural stone throughout. "It has this Old World castle feel to it," says the wife. "It's new but it looks like it could be 80 years old." The couple first discovered Naples 15 years ago, and the wife says she always hoped her attorney husband would slow down and retire here. The couple will keep their home in New York City but plan to live in Naples seven to eight months a year. http://www.gulfshorelife.com/Pages/h...tories.asp?346 |
"Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south. The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has dozens over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is somewhere close to $4-5million. Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died. Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down. http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml Here are some more listings in the Port Royal section of Naples, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/7dvef |
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south. The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has dozens over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is somewhere close to $4-5million. Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died. Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down. http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml Here are some more listings in the Port Royal section of Naples, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/7dvef When you visit that the aforementioned site, Bill, pay close attention to the fact that the first two listings ($32.9 million each) are just for the *lots*. |
wrote in message oups.com... Bill McKee wrote: snip the drivel Hey, Bill, it's cute how you follow Smither's lead and make yourself a new name every now and then. Easier to cover your dumb mistakes, huh? Only 2nd name. New computer. Now, how many names have you gone by kevin? |
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died. Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down. http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml This story is 3 years old. Prices have nearly doubled since then. What do you think Larry's house would sell for today? $50mm? |
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south. The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has dozens over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is somewhere close to $4-5million. Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died. Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down. http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml Here are some more listings in the Port Royal section of Naples, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/7dvef When you visit that the aforementioned site, Bill, pay close attention to the fact that the first two listings ($32.9 million each) are just for the *lots*. Tell Steven Forbes. |
"Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died. Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down. http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml This story is 3 years old. Prices have nearly doubled since then. What do you think Larry's house would sell for today? $50mm? You guys aren't talking about the bass tourneyment ratings, are you? House prices? Hope my area stays in the bottom 150, so I can afford to liv ehere. |
"Harry.Krause" wrote in message ... SoFarrell wrote: "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message rthlink.net... Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died. Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down. http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml This story is 3 years old. Prices have nearly doubled since then. What do you think Larry's house would sell for today? $50mm? You guys aren't talking about the bass tourneyment ratings, are you? House prices? Hope my area stays in the bottom 150, so I can afford to liv ehere. You're got the right attitude. Better to live in a decent area where the prices aren't going through the roof. Bullpoop. If you're in the early years of your career (aka--debt acquisition years), it's better if your home is appreciating rapidly so that you can consolidate the debt into something that appreciates rather than depreciates, *and* offers a tax write-off of the interest. If you're close to retirement, and your home is paid off, rapid appreciation is even more important. It increases your net worth (good for your kids when you die), and it provides an appreciating asset that you can draw funds from (in the form of a reverse mortgage). Unless you're new to a market and can't afford the hyperinflated prices, *or* you live in an area that doesn't cap the yearly growth in property taxes, there really isn't anything bad about rapid home appreciation. |
"Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ink.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Bill McKee" wrote in message nk.net... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Dr. Dr. K. Grear" Call180bucme@foragoodtime wrote in message ... Gould, Is this info look correct to you for Seattle? I would have expect substantially more construction and substantially higher costs. Seattle Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 464 buildings, average cost: $125,800 b.. 1997: 469 buildings, average cost: $146,300 c.. 1998: 530 buildings, average cost: $135,200 d.. 1999: 480 buildings, average cost: $136,900 e.. 2000: 449 buildings, average cost: $143,800 f.. 2001: 484 buildings, average cost: $152,800 g.. 2002: 886 buildings, average cost: $159,100 h.. 2003: 914 buildings, average cost: $173,100 Naples: Single-family new house construction building permits: a.. 1996: 67 buildings, average cost: $754,900 b.. 1997: 70 buildings, average cost: $618,000 c.. 1998: 101 buildings, average cost: $565,800 d.. 1999: 117 buildings, average cost: $863,400 e.. 2000: 131 buildings, average cost: $837,200 f.. 2001: 122 buildings, average cost: $868,200 g.. 2002: 118 buildings, average cost: $912,700 h.. 2003: 128 buildings, average cost: $819,800 http://www.city-data.com/city/Naples-Florida.html This was for *all* zip codes in Naples. I was actually surprised to not see Naples on the list. There are at least a dozen zip codes for the "Naples" mailing address. Was there a minimum population requirement used in the rankings? If you could look up the "34102" zip code only, the median home price would be higher than the Atherton, CA median home price. I doubt that very much! That is the median price of one the most expensive neighborhoods in a land of very high priced neighborhoods. Zip code 34102 is the Port Royal and Aqualane Shores area of Naples. There are currently 32 homes for sale in Port Royal according to MLS. They range in price from $2,995,00 to $24,900,000. Ten of them are over $10 million. In Aqualane, there are 14 homes currently for sale. They range from $2.2 million to $6.69 million. Those statistics put the median quite a bit higher than the #1 on Forbe's list. You do not get that many homes changing hands in Atherton. Is a stable community and the kids take over the house. And in your naples zip code, how many sell for the asking price, and how many outside the local neighborhood you quote and in the zip code selling and what price. I am in Pleasanton Calif and our zip code has a price range of about 400k on the lower end for a condo to 15-20 million in Ruby Hills gated community and 3-10 million in the Castlewood golf course area. Sunol is the next town south. The 34102 area code doesn't have a home under $2 million. It has dozens over $10 million. I'd venture to guess that the median is somewhere close to $4-5million. Atherton does not have a bare lot under 2 million. Wifes cousin died. Her little 2 bedroom house on a lot in Los Altos, next to Atherton sold for 1.1 million. The house is a tear down. http://www.almanacnews.com/morgue/20...6.alarry.shtml Here are some more listings in the Port Royal section of Naples, Bill: http://tinyurl.com/7dvef When you visit that the aforementioned site, Bill, pay close attention to the fact that the first two listings ($32.9 million each) are just for the *lots*. Tell Steven Forbes. Why tell him? He's not the one who gathered the data for the article. |
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