is a phrase often uttered by the great Warner Wolf to describe that
now is the time.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I want to tell you that
the future is indeed now and not only that, it is called E-TEC.

Sea trialed the new Contender today - whoa momma this is a sweet ride.

Fast, unbelievable acceleration, hardly knew the engines were running
even at WOT, smooth running and very, very cool looking. Extrapolating
the fuel flow (based on only 90 minutes run time), it would appear
that the engines are going to be very efficient, that is a time thing
- I'll let you know.

Pictures by the end of the weekend.

Later y'all

Tom

November Mexico One Quebec wrote:
is a phrase often uttered by the great Warner Wolf to describe that
now is the time.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I want to tell you that
the future is indeed now and not only that, it is called E-TEC.

Sea trialed the new Contender today - whoa momma this is a sweet ride.

Fast, unbelievable acceleration, hardly knew the engines were running
even at WOT, smooth running and very, very cool looking. Extrapolating
the fuel flow (based on only 90 minutes run time), it would appear
that the engines are going to be very efficient, that is a time thing
- I'll let you know.

Pictures by the end of the weekend.

Later y'all

Tom

& so the new Ficht spam season starts; again:-). I suppose an anti ad
is in order????

This poor soul has burnt his bridges with Merc & can't ever go there
again, he then got caught big time with defective Fichts (of 3 one
failed & he still thinks that's OK, can you imagine what he must accuse
Merc of????:-)) & has now been talked into believing the totally
unbelievable;

(a) They're giving "him" a great deal because "he's" a "special" bloke,
really sad that anyone ever believes that but all the more so when it's
one of the NG's own.

(b) The name change has fixed Ficht, it hasn't & can't because just like
rocket science you can't run burns in a closed chamber safely unless the
atomisation, ignition & mixture are correct, end of story, chiseled in
stone long ago.

(c) "He" sees "himself" as a special user that's of value to the
marketing campaign of the latest Ficht consumer funded experiment called
E-Tec, so just like Gould thinks posting "his" spam is somehow different
or even acceptable.

(d) Actually thinks a quiet idle is a good thing!!!:-) when it's just a
symptom of a poorly atomised very lean mixture, a very retarded spark
timing that has to continuously fire to even ignite such lean mixtures,
at low to medium revs. Were we to explain to him that the same idiots
that gave him Ficht are getting him to spam the exact same marketing
lines they used in 98 to deceptively market Ficht it would do no good
becasue he's a believer with an un earned benefit to protect.
Essentially these engines are docile & quiet at idle because there isn't
enough ignitable fuel in the mixture & the spark timing is so late they
can't even generate the minimal noise & vibration all IC engine make at
idle. Of course once you put them under load up at medium revs with lean
mixture, poor low pressure atomisation & continuous spark firing; that
"symptom" quickly turns to excess piston heat buildup then "sometimes"
uncontrolled & uncontrollable detonation as further power is applied.

Stronger higher melting point pistons, special high temp oils, might
delay & maybe even get some more engines to hold together long enough to
get into normal mixture single fire mode but in the end lean mixtures at
power are just not viable; ask any of the "proper" engine makers.

Pay no attention to the E-Tec BS no matter who spruiks it:-) don't
under any circumstances buy one with "your own" money but sit back at
least 2 seasons & watch what happens this time.

Save this post & my others because just like Ficht I want it clear you
heard it here first, E-Tec will fail just as Ficht did, maybe not as
often but often enough that you will be glad you didn't buy one.

I wonder what the French will change the name to next time????

Ficht, Optimax & E-Tec are all dead (E-Tec still born:-)), you
can't run engines at power when lean, a well known & understood fact
since the 30s, it's just basic rocket science, the very same problem. I
accept you don't believe me but do you believe nasa???

Add into all three very poor atomisation from not enough injection
pressure & it's worse.

Then with Ficht & E-Tec add inaccurate loony tunes continuous spark
ignition when in lean mode & it's hopeless.

Then with Ficht & E-Tec add the most dangerous oiling system since
VRO & consumer usage failures are assured.

If the lean mixtures at power don't get 'em, the poor fuel
atomisation, inaccurate spark timing or lack of proper lubrication will


K


& Krause's lie of the day is:

Other than what he's picked up here over the years this liar
clearly doesn't & never has owned a boat & certainly never done any real
boating, yet he insults all the NG real boaters with lies like this;

Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have.
Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice.
Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have.
Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have.
Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have.
Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under
your command? I have.

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:16:25 +1000, "K. Smith" wrote:

November Mexico One Quebec wrote:
is a phrase often uttered by the great Warner Wolf to describe that
now is the time.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I want to tell you that
the future is indeed now and not only that, it is called E-TEC.

Sea trialed the new Contender today - whoa momma this is a sweet ride.

Fast, unbelievable acceleration, hardly knew the engines were running
even at WOT, smooth running and very, very cool looking. Extrapolating
the fuel flow (based on only 90 minutes run time), it would appear
that the engines are going to be very efficient, that is a time thing
- I'll let you know.

Pictures by the end of the weekend.

Later y'all

Tom

& so the new Ficht spam season starts; again:-). I suppose an anti ad
is in order????

Admit it - you are just jealous. :)

Later,

Tom

Why do give a rat's ass what other people waste their money on ? Are you a
sociopath ??


"K. Smith" wrote in message
...
November Mexico One Quebec wrote:
is a phrase often uttered by the great Warner Wolf to describe that
now is the time.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I want to tell you that
the future is indeed now and not only that, it is called E-TEC.

Sea trialed the new Contender today - whoa momma this is a sweet ride.

Fast, unbelievable acceleration, hardly knew the engines were running
even at WOT, smooth running and very, very cool looking. Extrapolating
the fuel flow (based on only 90 minutes run time), it would appear
that the engines are going to be very efficient, that is a time thing
- I'll let you know.

Pictures by the end of the weekend.

Later y'all

Tom

& so the new Ficht spam season starts; again:-). I suppose an anti ad is
in order????

This poor soul has burnt his bridges with Merc & can't ever go there
again, he then got caught big time with defective Fichts (of 3 one failed
& he still thinks that's OK, can you imagine what he must accuse Merc
of????:-)) & has now been talked into believing the totally unbelievable;

(a) They're giving "him" a great deal because "he's" a "special" bloke,
really sad that anyone ever believes that but all the more so when it's
one of the NG's own.

(b) The name change has fixed Ficht, it hasn't & can't because just like
rocket science you can't run burns in a closed chamber safely unless the
atomisation, ignition & mixture are correct, end of story, chiseled in
stone long ago.

(c) "He" sees "himself" as a special user that's of value to the marketing
campaign of the latest Ficht consumer funded experiment called E-Tec, so
just like Gould thinks posting "his" spam is somehow different or even
acceptable.

(d) Actually thinks a quiet idle is a good thing!!!:-) when it's just a
symptom of a poorly atomised very lean mixture, a very retarded spark
timing that has to continuously fire to even ignite such lean mixtures, at
low to medium revs. Were we to explain to him that the same idiots that
gave him Ficht are getting him to spam the exact same marketing lines they
used in 98 to deceptively market Ficht it would do no good becasue he's a
believer with an un earned benefit to protect. Essentially these engines
are docile & quiet at idle because there isn't enough ignitable fuel in
the mixture & the spark timing is so late they can't even generate the
minimal noise & vibration all IC engine make at idle. Of course once you
put them under load up at medium revs with lean mixture, poor low pressure
atomisation & continuous spark firing; that "symptom" quickly turns to
excess piston heat buildup then "sometimes" uncontrolled & uncontrollable
detonation as further power is applied.

Stronger higher melting point pistons, special high temp oils, might delay
& maybe even get some more engines to hold together long enough to get
into normal mixture single fire mode but in the end lean mixtures at power
are just not viable; ask any of the "proper" engine makers.

Pay no attention to the E-Tec BS no matter who spruiks it:-) don't under
any circumstances buy one with "your own" money but sit back at least 2
seasons & watch what happens this time.

Save this post & my others because just like Ficht I want it clear you
heard it here first, E-Tec will fail just as Ficht did, maybe not as often
but often enough that you will be glad you didn't buy one.

I wonder what the French will change the name to next time????

Ficht, Optimax & E-Tec are all dead (E-Tec still born:-)), you can't
run engines at power when lean, a well known & understood fact since the
30s, it's just basic rocket science, the very same problem. I accept you
don't believe me but do you believe nasa???

Add into all three very poor atomisation from not enough injection
pressure & it's worse.

Then with Ficht & E-Tec add inaccurate loony tunes continuous spark
ignition when in lean mode & it's hopeless.

Then with Ficht & E-Tec add the most dangerous oiling system since VRO
& consumer usage failures are assured.

If the lean mixtures at power don't get 'em, the poor fuel
atomisation, inaccurate spark timing or lack of proper lubrication will


K


& Krause's lie of the day is:

Other than what he's picked up here over the years this liar clearly
doesn't & never has owned a boat & certainly never done any real boating,
yet he insults all the NG real boaters with lies like this;

Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have.
Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice.
Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have.
Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have.
Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have.
Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under
your command? I have.

harry.krause wrote:
snip
an old inboard cruiser with its engines ripped out.



Somewhat similar to our Ausie friend??

Tom, I would really like to see and hear about this new motor. As i
will be looking at getting a boat in the near future, I want to get all
the infor I can.

Thanks
Ed

On 23 Apr 2005 04:56:20 -0700, "Ed" wrote:

Tom, I would really like to see and hear about this new motor. As i
will be looking at getting a boat in the near future, I want to get all
the infor I can.

Well, you've heard from Karen and I'll let it up to you if her advice
is anything you wish to follow. I don't have anything against Karen
- her opinion is her opinion - she has a right to it. Nothing she has
said has swayed me in the least only because in my experience, with a
fair amount of hours on the three engines I own, I was very pleased
with how they worked out.

My first Contender had twin FICHTs (225) . I also have a FICHT (200)
on my Ranger CC. I did have a couple of problems with the 200, but
they were unusual problems and not directly related to the standard
FICHT issues. However, that set the stage for the second boat because
I was firmly in the two stroke camp. In particular, the direct
injected two stroke camp.

Now, with respect to E-TEC, I believe it is the future technology.
Hands down better than four stroke in terms of weight, acceleration,
efficiency (although that has yet to be determined, but I was
impressed with the test figures) and emissions. Sound is also a
biggie and to tell the truth, they were extremely quiet - quieter than
a Yamaha four stroke that a friend of mine has.

I hang around a boat dealer and marina a lot doing nothing more than
being unofficial yard groupie and I see a lot of different engines. I
also have the good fortune to take a lot of different boats with
different engines out after repairs for test runs. You tend to get a
feel for what is and isn't if you will.

For what it's worth, my personal observation is that direct injected
two stroke engines are much better than four stroke or EFI two
strokes. It's a given that it's much better than normally aspirated
two strokes.

As of this point, I know a couple of guys who have E-TEC 90 hp on
their boats and absolutely rave about them - a respectable amount of
new hours - somewhere around 40 hours per (give or take a few) and no
complaints - just great reviews and performance. You read my first
reaction to having a set of 225 E-TECs - wowzer! :)

If you have a choice, go with a direct injected two stroke - I'm brand
loyal to Evinrude because Bombardier handled my problems with a lot of
skill and no muss or fuss in a situation where they didn't have to do
anything to satisfy me. I was impressed with that.

Good luck searching. :)

Later,

Tom