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Water pump - Johnson outboard
This is my first season prepping a boat for the water and
I have a question about maintenance of the water pump. I've heard that you should change the impeller every 1 to 2 years. I'm nervous about dropping the lower gear case to get at the pump. I bought the boat last year, it was already in the water and ran fine all season. I'm tempted to use the old "if it ain't broke" philosophy but I'm sure this will get me into trouble at some point. So two questions: How often should an outboard water pump be serviced? How hard is it to service the pump? Again I'm mostly concerned about dropping the lower gear casing. (BTW, it's a 1995 130HP Johnson) Thanks in advance -VI |
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"Vinny" wrote in message ... This is my first season prepping a boat for the water and I have a question about maintenance of the water pump. I've heard that you should change the impeller every 1 to 2 years. I'm nervous about dropping the lower gear case to get at the pump. I bought the boat last year, it was already in the water and ran fine all season. I'm tempted to use the old "if it ain't broke" philosophy but I'm sure this will get me into trouble at some point. So two questions: How often should an outboard water pump be serviced? How hard is it to service the pump? Again I'm mostly concerned about dropping the lower gear casing. (BTW, it's a 1995 130HP Johnson) Thanks in advance -VI Since you do not know the condition of the pump/impeller currently in there, I would replace it prior to use. I am a stickler for maintenance, and after having Johnson, Evenrude, Mercury, Mariner, and Yamaha outboards, I would not bother with the water pump more than every 3 years unless you use the hell out of it, or operate in sandy, muddy water, which tends to where on the impeller. Not familiar with that particular HP, but in general, put in reverse, remove the 4 or 6 bolts holding the lower on, plus the one above the fin anode. Once that is loose, the shift shaft needs to be uncoupled, then drop the lower, it is heavy. Replace the entire pump 1st time, check seals below it for any possible damage. When putting on your new impeller, a slight film of oil or Vaseline will help work the impeller into the pump housing. MAKE SURE YOU PUT IT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, look at the way the old one comes out. Then assemble. |
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Get a service manual! Not to hard to change.
"Vinny" wrote in message ... This is my first season prepping a boat for the water and I have a question about maintenance of the water pump. I've heard that you should change the impeller every 1 to 2 years. I'm nervous about dropping the lower gear case to get at the pump. I bought the boat last year, it was already in the water and ran fine all season. I'm tempted to use the old "if it ain't broke" philosophy but I'm sure this will get me into trouble at some point. So two questions: How often should an outboard water pump be serviced? How hard is it to service the pump? Again I'm mostly concerned about dropping the lower gear casing. (BTW, it's a 1995 130HP Johnson) Thanks in advance -VI |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:47:58 -0400, "Vinny"
wrote: This is my first season prepping a boat for the water and I have a question about maintenance of the water pump. I've heard that you should change the impeller every 1 to 2 years. I'm nervous about dropping the lower gear case to get at the pump. I bought the boat last year, it was already in the water and ran fine all season. I'm tempted to use the old "if it ain't broke" philosophy but I'm sure this will get me into trouble at some point. So two questions: How often should an outboard water pump be serviced? One to two years is over kill. Maybe five years at a minimum. Unless there is a reason like running up a sandbar or operating in extremely silty water. How hard is it to service the pump? Again I'm mostly concerned about dropping the lower gear casing. Piece of cake. Get a service manual (like Seloc) for the engine. (BTW, it's a 1995 130HP Johnson) Nothing to it. Later, Tom |
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"Vinny" wrote in message ... This is my first season prepping a boat for the water and I have a question about maintenance of the water pump. I've heard that you should change the impeller every 1 to 2 years. I'm nervous about dropping the lower gear case to get at the pump. I bought the boat last year, it was already in the water and ran fine all season. I'm tempted to use the old "if it ain't broke" philosophy but I'm sure this will get me into trouble at some point. So two questions: How often should an outboard water pump be serviced? How hard is it to service the pump? Again I'm mostly concerned about dropping the lower gear casing. (BTW, it's a 1995 130HP Johnson) Thanks in advance -VI Three reasons to replace the impeller with normal use. 1) Dirty water or idling in shallow water can cause the impeller to wear out prematurely (sand). 2) The impeller becomes less flexible and can loose it's shape causing less water flow and poor priming (apx two-three years) . 3) catastrophic failure because the rubber rotted (Aprox 5+years). Another good reason to do it often is that the bolts will be easier to remove. Outdrives are easier to pop off and replace the impeller (45 min for me). |
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Jeff Rigby wrote:
-VI Three reasons to replace the impeller with normal use. 1) Dirty water or idling in shallow water can cause the impeller to wear out prematurely (sand). 2) The impeller becomes less flexible and can loose it's shape causing less water flow and poor priming (apx two-three years) . 3) catastrophic failure because the rubber rotted (Aprox 5+years). Another good reason to do it often is that the bolts will be easier to remove. Outdrives are easier to pop off and replace the impeller (45 min for me). The impeller materials must not be very good anymore...! My outboards: -1972 Johnson 6 hp - original impeller - never a problem. -1973 Evinrude 115 hp - changed once ~1991 while apart for straightening the prop shaft. -1975 50 hp looper - retired in 1986(still have it, though) with original impeller -1981 Evinrude 115 hp - not changed since I bought it in 1997. When I was the tech for a 50-60 boat rental fleet, about 1982 - 1987, we had all Johnson & Evinrude - lots of 5.6 & 6 hp, 9.5 & 10 hp, 18/20 hp, many 28-33-35-40 hp, some '76-up 35's, 55-60-65-70 hp loopers, even some old "pumpkin" V-4's, I cannot recall changing a single impeller. For two months a year, they never sat still for very long, though. Rob |
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Your correct in that they will last a long time. I have gone for long times
as well. It is more of a matter of knowing for sure that your not going to have a problem. Rarely do they actually go completely out. They will over time tend to not produce as much pressure as they should. Kind of like changing your oil. Some do it 3000 miles, some 5000 miles, some 7500 miles, some 10000, some 15000, some never. Yet the car still runs. Or like timing belts on cars. 90000, 100000, never... Most change them every 2 to 3 years just as a precaution. -- Tony my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com "trainfan1" wrote in message ... Jeff Rigby wrote: -VI Three reasons to replace the impeller with normal use. 1) Dirty water or idling in shallow water can cause the impeller to wear out prematurely (sand). 2) The impeller becomes less flexible and can loose it's shape causing less water flow and poor priming (apx two-three years) . 3) catastrophic failure because the rubber rotted (Aprox 5+years). Another good reason to do it often is that the bolts will be easier to remove. Outdrives are easier to pop off and replace the impeller (45 min for me). The impeller materials must not be very good anymore...! My outboards: -1972 Johnson 6 hp - original impeller - never a problem. -1973 Evinrude 115 hp - changed once ~1991 while apart for straightening the prop shaft. -1975 50 hp looper - retired in 1986(still have it, though) with original impeller -1981 Evinrude 115 hp - not changed since I bought it in 1997. When I was the tech for a 50-60 boat rental fleet, about 1982 - 1987, we had all Johnson & Evinrude - lots of 5.6 & 6 hp, 9.5 & 10 hp, 18/20 hp, many 28-33-35-40 hp, some '76-up 35's, 55-60-65-70 hp loopers, even some old "pumpkin" V-4's, I cannot recall changing a single impeller. For two months a year, they never sat still for very long, though. Rob |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:08:43 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote: ~~ snippage ~~ Kind of like changing your oil. Some do it 3000 miles, some 5000 miles, some 7500 miles, some 10000, some 15000, some never. Yet the car still runs. I had a Ranger pickup, four cylinder, that I literally beat the crap out of for the eleven years I owned it. I never changed the oil. Changed the air filter occasionally., even changed the oil filter once in a blue moon, but never changed the oil. Can't explain it - once I got into the habit, I just didn't. I punched out the catalytic converter at about 90,000 miles when it got a bit clogged up. It passed emissions every two years - no problem - great numbers. Go figure. Later, Tom |
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