On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:53:57 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

[snip]

...and got three purple hearts...one for a minor hand injury, one a minor
thigh injury, and a third one that caused me to be out of action for a
whopping two days. Oh yeah...and I was the commander on the boat...so *I
NOMINATED MYSELF FOR THOSE MEDALS*.

The Purple Heart is not "nominated" or recommended. It is awarded automatically
when an individual meets the criteria.

Joe Parsons

Joe Parsons wrote:
The Purple Heart is not "nominated" or recommended. It is awarded automatically
when an individual meets the criteria.

You can't expect these chickenhawks to know about stuff like that.

Besides, why let the facts get in the way of a smear campaign?

DSK

"Joe Parsons" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:53:57 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

[snip]

...and got three purple hearts...one for a minor hand injury, one a minor
thigh injury, and a third one that caused me to be out of action for a
whopping two days. Oh yeah...and I was the commander on the boat...so *I
NOMINATED MYSELF FOR THOSE MEDALS*.

The Purple Heart is not "nominated" or recommended. It is awarded
automatically
when an individual meets the criteria.

And it is determined by the commander, whether the circumstances of the
injury "fit" those criteria. Guess what? Kerry was the commander who
determined if his injuries fit the criteria. He OK'd his own Purple Hearts.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:39:15 +0000, NOYB wrote:


And it is determined by the commander, whether the circumstances of the
injury "fit" those criteria. Guess what? Kerry was the commander who
determined if his injuries fit the criteria. He OK'd his own Purple
Hearts.

LOL, in November, Kerry may become the Commander in Chief, but in Vietnam
his commander was George Elliot. Elliot approved Kerry's medals. NOYB,
I'm a little surprised you buy into this BS. Picking apart Kerry's war
record seems more than a little petty. The underlying fact remains, Kerry
did what his country asked of him, no more, no less.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:39:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Joe Parsons" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:53:57 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

[snip]

...and got three purple hearts...one for a minor hand injury, one a minor
thigh injury, and a third one that caused me to be out of action for a
whopping two days. Oh yeah...and I was the commander on the boat...so *I
NOMINATED MYSELF FOR THOSE MEDALS*.

The Purple Heart is not "nominated" or recommended. It is awarded
automatically
when an individual meets the criteria.

And it is determined by the commander, whether the circumstances of the
injury "fit" those criteria. Guess what? Kerry was the commander who
determined if his injuries fit the criteria. He OK'd his own Purple Hearts.

Are you suggesting that Lt. Kerry, having been wounded, should not have received
the Purple Heart?

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:26:06 GMT, Joe Parsons
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:39:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Joe Parsons" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:53:57 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

[snip]

...and got three purple hearts...one for a minor hand injury, one a minor
thigh injury, and a third one that caused me to be out of action for a
whopping two days. Oh yeah...and I was the commander on the boat...so *I
NOMINATED MYSELF FOR THOSE MEDALS*.

The Purple Heart is not "nominated" or recommended. It is awarded
automatically
when an individual meets the criteria.

And it is determined by the commander, whether the circumstances of the
injury "fit" those criteria. Guess what? Kerry was the commander who
determined if his injuries fit the criteria. He OK'd his own Purple Hearts.

Are you suggesting that Lt. Kerry, having been wounded, should not have received
the Purple Heart?

I think the idea is more that the ownership of one or more Purple
Hearts does not make one a "war hero."

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:45:53 -0500, John H wrote:


I think the idea is more that the ownership of one or more Purple Hearts
does not make one a "war hero."

Perhaps, but a Bronze Star and a Silver Star usually meet that criteria.

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:39:19 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:45:53 -0500, John H wrote:


I think the idea is more that the ownership of one or more Purple Hearts
does not make one a "war hero."

Perhaps, but a Bronze Star and a Silver Star usually meet that criteria.

A Bronze Star may be awarded for Valor (heroism) or Service. I believe
his Bronze Star was awarded for service, i.e. he did his time.

The Silver Star is a valor (heroism) award. The degree of valor
necessary for the award is a matter of the judgement of the
authorizing officer. Below is an extract from the given site:

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/co...y.asp?aid=6249

Extract: He then took command of a second swift boat, No. 94, which
operated in the Mekong Delta. Under his command they totaled 18
missions over a period of 48 days, a far cry from the many who
completed full tours of duty there, Oliver North and Sen. John McCain
among this group. It was with this assignment that he was awarded his
Silver Star for killing a Viet Cong soldier who was already pinned
down and wounded in a ''Hooch'' courtesy of Kerry’s .50 caliber
gunner. It was also on swift boat No. 94 where he received his third
Purple Heart for once again receiving a minor wound from a mine that
went off adjacent to his swift boat. Later, when asked about the
severity of the combat injuries Kerry himself said that one of them
cost him about two days of service, and that the other two did not
interrupt his duty. He classified himself as ''walking wounded.''

Does this make him a "war hero?" For sure, these awards have no
bearing on his presidential qualifications.


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:08:08 -0500, John H wrote:


Perhaps, but a Bronze Star and a Silver Star usually meet that criteria.

A Bronze Star may be awarded for Valor (heroism) or Service. I believe his
Bronze Star was awarded for service, i.e. he did his time.

His Bronze Star was awarded for pulling a man out of the water while under
fire.

"Joe Parsons" wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:39:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Joe Parsons" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:53:57 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

[snip]

...and got three purple hearts...one for a minor hand injury, one a
minor
thigh injury, and a third one that caused me to be out of action for a
whopping two days. Oh yeah...and I was the commander on the boat...so
*I
NOMINATED MYSELF FOR THOSE MEDALS*.

The Purple Heart is not "nominated" or recommended. It is awarded
automatically
when an individual meets the criteria.

And it is determined by the commander, whether the circumstances of the
injury "fit" those criteria. Guess what? Kerry was the commander who
determined if his injuries fit the criteria. He OK'd his own Purple
Hearts.

Are you suggesting that Lt. Kerry, having been wounded, should not have
received
the Purple Heart?

I'm suggesting that he either embellished or lied about the extent of his
first two injuries so as to be eligible for the Purple Heart.