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( Ot) BUSH APPROVAL RATING AT LOW POINT OF HIS TERM
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:54:10 GMT, Joe Parsons
wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:13:11 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:08:08 -0500, John H wrote: Perhaps, but a Bronze Star and a Silver Star usually meet that criteria. A Bronze Star may be awarded for Valor (heroism) or Service. I believe his Bronze Star was awarded for service, i.e. he did his time. His Bronze Star was awarded for pulling a man out of the water while under fire. He probably just made that up. Oh, wait...Kerry's Bronze Star citation was signed by Adm. Zumwalt: Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as an Officer-in-Charge of Inshore Patrol Craft 94, one of five boats conducting a Sealords operation in the Bay Hap River. While exiting the river, a mine detonated under another Inshore Patrol Craft and almost simultaneously, another mine detonated wounding Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry in the right arm. In addition, all units began receiving small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks. When Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry discovered he had a man overboard, he returned upriver to assist. The man in the water was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain and with disregard for his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry then directed his boat to return to and assist the other damaged boat to safety. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry's calmness, professionalism and great personal courage under fire were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service. The signature of Admiral Zumwalt, unless done for some political reason, was basically automatic and has no bearing on the truth of the citation. Normally a Bronze Star is signed by a two star or higher. The citation and recommendation for the award are normally prepared by the individual's commander or his designee. Kerry had a choice to make. Either he would run, knowing he had a man, alive, in the river, or he would return to pick him up. I doubt if many, given that choice, would have run, especially with witnesses on board. I wonder if the gunners suppressing enemy fire received like awards. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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( Ot) BUSH APPROVAL RATING AT LOW POINT OF HIS TERM
"Joe Parsons" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:13:11 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:08:08 -0500, John H wrote: Perhaps, but a Bronze Star and a Silver Star usually meet that criteria. A Bronze Star may be awarded for Valor (heroism) or Service. I believe his Bronze Star was awarded for service, i.e. he did his time. His Bronze Star was awarded for pulling a man out of the water while under fire. He probably just made that up. Oh, wait...Kerry's Bronze Star citation was signed by Adm. Zumwalt: Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as an Officer-in-Charge of Inshore Patrol Craft 94, one of five boats conducting a Sealords operation in the Bay Hap River. While exiting the river, a mine detonated under another Inshore Patrol Craft and almost simultaneously, another mine detonated wounding Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry in the right arm. In addition, all units began receiving small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks. When Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry discovered he had a man overboard, he returned upriver to assist. The man in the water was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain and with disregard for his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry then directed his boat to return to and assist the other damaged boat to safety. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry's calmness, professionalism and great personal courage under fire were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service. OK, you've convinced me. I guess that I'll vote for Kerry now. Afterall, his action on a boat in Vietnam means more than a 20+ year voting history in Congress which validates him as our country's most liberal Senator. |
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( Ot) BUSH APPROVAL RATING AT LOW POINT OF HIS TERM
John H wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:54:10 GMT, Joe Parsons wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:13:11 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:08:08 -0500, John H wrote: Perhaps, but a Bronze Star and a Silver Star usually meet that criteria. A Bronze Star may be awarded for Valor (heroism) or Service. I believe his Bronze Star was awarded for service, i.e. he did his time. His Bronze Star was awarded for pulling a man out of the water while under fire. He probably just made that up. Oh, wait...Kerry's Bronze Star citation was signed by Adm. Zumwalt: Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as an Officer-in-Charge of Inshore Patrol Craft 94, one of five boats conducting a Sealords operation in the Bay Hap River. While exiting the river, a mine detonated under another Inshore Patrol Craft and almost simultaneously, another mine detonated wounding Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry in the right arm. In addition, all units began receiving small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks. When Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry discovered he had a man overboard, he returned upriver to assist. The man in the water was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain and with disregard for his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry then directed his boat to return to and assist the other damaged boat to safety. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry's calmness, professionalism and great personal courage under fire were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service. The signature of Admiral Zumwalt, unless done for some political reason, was basically automatic and has no bearing on the truth of the citation. Normally a Bronze Star is signed by a two star or higher. The citation and recommendation for the award are normally prepared by the individual's commander or his designee. Kerry had a choice to make. Either he would run, knowing he had a man, alive, in the river, or he would return to pick him up. I doubt if many, given that choice, would have run, especially with witnesses on board. I wonder if the gunners suppressing enemy fire received like awards. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Did you get an attendance award, Herring? |
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( Ot) BUSH APPROVAL RATING AT LOW POINT OF HIS TERM
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 22:20:01 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Joe Parsons" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:13:11 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:08:08 -0500, John H wrote: Perhaps, but a Bronze Star and a Silver Star usually meet that criteria. A Bronze Star may be awarded for Valor (heroism) or Service. I believe his Bronze Star was awarded for service, i.e. he did his time. His Bronze Star was awarded for pulling a man out of the water while under fire. He probably just made that up. Oh, wait...Kerry's Bronze Star citation was signed by Adm. Zumwalt: Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as an Officer-in-Charge of Inshore Patrol Craft 94, one of five boats conducting a Sealords operation in the Bay Hap River. While exiting the river, a mine detonated under another Inshore Patrol Craft and almost simultaneously, another mine detonated wounding Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry in the right arm. In addition, all units began receiving small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks. When Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry discovered he had a man overboard, he returned upriver to assist. The man in the water was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain and with disregard for his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry then directed his boat to return to and assist the other damaged boat to safety. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry's calmness, professionalism and great personal courage under fire were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service. OK, you've convinced me. I guess that I'll vote for Kerry now. Afterall, his action on a boat in Vietnam means more than a 20+ year voting history in Congress which validates him as our country's most liberal Senator. I don't care whom you vote for. But in your eagerness to discredit him--espsecially by less than honest means--you reveal a great deal about yourself. Joe Parsons |
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( Ot) BUSH APPROVAL RATING AT LOW POINT OF HIS TERM
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:15:04 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:54:10 GMT, Joe Parsons wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:13:11 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:08:08 -0500, John H wrote: Perhaps, but a Bronze Star and a Silver Star usually meet that criteria. A Bronze Star may be awarded for Valor (heroism) or Service. I believe his Bronze Star was awarded for service, i.e. he did his time. His Bronze Star was awarded for pulling a man out of the water while under fire. He probably just made that up. Oh, wait...Kerry's Bronze Star citation was signed by Adm. Zumwalt: Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as an Officer-in-Charge of Inshore Patrol Craft 94, one of five boats conducting a Sealords operation in the Bay Hap River. While exiting the river, a mine detonated under another Inshore Patrol Craft and almost simultaneously, another mine detonated wounding Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry in the right arm. In addition, all units began receiving small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks. When Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry discovered he had a man overboard, he returned upriver to assist. The man in the water was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain and with disregard for his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry then directed his boat to return to and assist the other damaged boat to safety. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry's calmness, professionalism and great personal courage under fire were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service. The signature of Admiral Zumwalt, unless done for some political reason, was basically automatic and has no bearing on the truth of the citation. Normally a Bronze Star is signed by a two star or higher. The citation and recommendation for the award are normally prepared by the individual's commander or his designee. Kerry had a choice to make. Either he would run, knowing he had a man, alive, in the river, or he would return to pick him up. I doubt if many, given that choice, would have run, especially with witnesses on board. I wonder if the gunners suppressing enemy fire received like awards. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Did you get an attendance award, Herring? Got my share, Harry, and you? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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( Ot) BUSH APPROVAL RATING AT LOW POINT OF HIS TERM
John H wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:15:04 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:54:10 GMT, Joe Parsons wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:13:11 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:08:08 -0500, John H wrote: Perhaps, but a Bronze Star and a Silver Star usually meet that criteria. A Bronze Star may be awarded for Valor (heroism) or Service. I believe his Bronze Star was awarded for service, i.e. he did his time. His Bronze Star was awarded for pulling a man out of the water while under fire. He probably just made that up. Oh, wait...Kerry's Bronze Star citation was signed by Adm. Zumwalt: Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as an Officer-in-Charge of Inshore Patrol Craft 94, one of five boats conducting a Sealords operation in the Bay Hap River. While exiting the river, a mine detonated under another Inshore Patrol Craft and almost simultaneously, another mine detonated wounding Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry in the right arm. In addition, all units began receiving small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks. When Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry discovered he had a man overboard, he returned upriver to assist. The man in the water was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain and with disregard for his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry then directed his boat to return to and assist the other damaged boat to safety. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry's calmness, professionalism and great personal courage under fire were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service. The signature of Admiral Zumwalt, unless done for some political reason, was basically automatic and has no bearing on the truth of the citation. Normally a Bronze Star is signed by a two star or higher. The citation and recommendation for the award are normally prepared by the individual's commander or his designee. Kerry had a choice to make. Either he would run, knowing he had a man, alive, in the river, or he would return to pick him up. I doubt if many, given that choice, would have run, especially with witnesses on board. I wonder if the gunners suppressing enemy fire received like awards. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Did you get an attendance award, Herring? Got my share, Harry, and you? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Got your share of showing up ribbons, eh? |
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( Ot) BUSH APPROVAL RATING AT LOW POINT OF HIS TERM
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:59:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:15:04 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:54:10 GMT, Joe Parsons wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 16:13:11 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:08:08 -0500, John H wrote: Perhaps, but a Bronze Star and a Silver Star usually meet that criteria. A Bronze Star may be awarded for Valor (heroism) or Service. I believe his Bronze Star was awarded for service, i.e. he did his time. His Bronze Star was awarded for pulling a man out of the water while under fire. He probably just made that up. Oh, wait...Kerry's Bronze Star citation was signed by Adm. Zumwalt: Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as an Officer-in-Charge of Inshore Patrol Craft 94, one of five boats conducting a Sealords operation in the Bay Hap River. While exiting the river, a mine detonated under another Inshore Patrol Craft and almost simultaneously, another mine detonated wounding Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry in the right arm. In addition, all units began receiving small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks. When Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry discovered he had a man overboard, he returned upriver to assist. The man in the water was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain and with disregard for his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry then directed his boat to return to and assist the other damaged boat to safety. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry's calmness, professionalism and great personal courage under fire were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service. The signature of Admiral Zumwalt, unless done for some political reason, was basically automatic and has no bearing on the truth of the citation. Normally a Bronze Star is signed by a two star or higher. The citation and recommendation for the award are normally prepared by the individual's commander or his designee. Kerry had a choice to make. Either he would run, knowing he had a man, alive, in the river, or he would return to pick him up. I doubt if many, given that choice, would have run, especially with witnesses on board. I wonder if the gunners suppressing enemy fire received like awards. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Did you get an attendance award, Herring? Got my share, Harry, and you? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Got your share of showing up ribbons, eh? What do you want, Harry? Do you want a list of my awards or what? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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( Ot) BUSH APPROVAL RATING AT LOW POINT OF HIS TERM
John H wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:59:26 -0500, Harry Krause Got your share of showing up ribbons, eh? What do you want, Harry? Do you want a list of my awards or what? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! I'd be more impressed with a list of BSA merit badges. |
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( Ot) BUSH APPROVAL RATING AT LOW POINT OF HIS TERM
NOYB wrote:
I'm suggesting that he either embellished or lied about the extent of his first two injuries so as to be eligible for the Purple Heart. In other words, you're a liar, so you are convinced that he must be too? Why do you not answer my questions? DSK |
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( Ot) BUSH APPROVAL RATING AT LOW POINT OF HIS TERM
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 04:53:54 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: John H wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:59:26 -0500, Harry Krause Got your share of showing up ribbons, eh? What do you want, Harry? Do you want a list of my awards or what? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! I'd be more impressed with a list of BSA merit badges. Then stop asking about them. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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