Why boats sink at the dock
 

In another post I listed Boat/US reasons for boats sinking underway.

The top reasons for boats sinking at the dock a

Where the Water Came From
:
Reason Percentage
Underwater Fittings: 50%
Rain and Snow: 32%
Fittings Above the Waterline: 9%
Poor Docking Arrangements: 8%
Other: 1%

Underwater fittings include : "In 50% of the dockside sinking claims, water
found its way into the bilge through leaks at underwater fittings. The
majority of the leaks were at stuffing boxes (12), followed by outdrive or
shift bellows (11), failed hoses or hose clamps (eight), sea strainers
(four), and drain plugs (four).

There were two sinkings each from air conditioning fittings, gate valves,
transducers, mounting bolts, and mufflers. One boat went to the bottom as a
result of a leaking speedometer impeller. It is certainly possible that more
than one fitting had been leaking. "

An interesting note concerning claims due to rainwater/snow was:

"Water falling from the sky, either rain, snow, or sleet, accounted for a
whopping 32% of the sinking claims. Everybody has seen a rowboat or two
awash, so this shouldn't be a surprise. What may be startling is that all of
the claims involved boats with self-bailing cockpits that should have shed
the water overboard."

"The real ME" wrote
"Water falling from the sky, either rain, snow, or sleet, accounted for
a
whopping 32% of the sinking claims. Everybody has seen a rowboat or two
awash, so this shouldn't be a surprise. What may be startling is that all
of
the claims involved boats with self-bailing cockpits that should have shed
the water overboard."

No surprise there. The self-bailing design is only intended to clear the
partially enclosed cockpit from wash over the gunnels or transom. Many or
most of the engine compartment and/or bilge-access hatches are either not
waterproof, or develop leaks over time. Sitting unattended for two or three
months of winter rains is more than enough for any slow leak to claim it's
victim.

Jack

Jack,

The problem I have seen is the scuppers get clogged with leaves or trash and
the water then floods into the engine compartment or bilge.


"Jack Painter" wrote in message
news:Ih97e.7012$5J3.5861@lakeread01...

"The real ME" wrote
"Water falling from the sky, either rain, snow, or sleet, accounted for
a
whopping 32% of the sinking claims. Everybody has seen a rowboat or two
awash, so this shouldn't be a surprise. What may be startling is that all
of
the claims involved boats with self-bailing cockpits that should have
shed
the water overboard."

No surprise there. The self-bailing design is only intended to clear the
partially enclosed cockpit from wash over the gunnels or transom. Many or
most of the engine compartment and/or bilge-access hatches are either not
waterproof, or develop leaks over time. Sitting unattended for two or
three
months of winter rains is more than enough for any slow leak to claim it's
victim.

Jack

Jack,


The problem I have seen is the scuppers get clogged with leaves or
trash and
the water then floods into the engine compartment or bilge.


****

Precisely.

My boat may yet be sunk by a maple tree, 30 feet from the water.
There's a big maple tree
near my slip. In autumn, the leaves blow in behind the bulwarks and
tend to collect atop the scuppers. I check the boat every couple of
days when I'm not actively using it, and I have arrived to find a *lot*
of water accumulated on deck after one of the fall monsoons moves
through.

Ah yes, the Seattle dilema: Covered moorage inside the locks (adding up
to six hours combined waiting time on a busy summer weekend), or open
moorage outside. :-)

Harry,
And make sure birds can't perch under it either. :-)
I lived on Lake St. Clair for a time, I had a seawall with 7 feet of
water there. My neighbor to the left of me had a covered boat lift, but
it was cut into the land on one side, his property line was about 25
feet more into the lake. One day I was talking with my neighbor to the
right, I was admiring our neighbor's boat hoist and inquired what he
thought it might cost. He replied about $15K, (it was a while ago), I
told him I didn't think that was too bad. He said "Yeah, I had one just
like it till one spring the ice flows took it away. Then he told me that
they're not insurable for ice damage. Sure changed any plans I was
thinking about.
Paul


Harry Krause wrote:

Get yourself a covered slip. Keeps most of the crap off the boat, keeps
the UV off the boat.

"Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote in message
...
Harry,

[snip]

Harry Krause wrote:

Get yourself a covered slip. Keeps most of the crap off the boat, keeps
the UV off the boat.

What did you do Krause, look up on the internet how UV is bad for boats?

LOL!

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

"Netsuck" wrote in message
...
Netsock wrote:
"Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote in message
...

Harry,


[snip]


Harry Krause wrote:


Get yourself a covered slip. Keeps most of the crap off the boat, keeps
the UV off the boat.


What did you do Krause, look up on the internet how UV is bad for boats?

LOL!




Hmmm. It's Netsock, but this time he's not using the anonymizer he's been
using lately.

This is the same Netsock who a few years ago after a bit of posting
annoyance dared us to get his ISP at OSU to cancel his account, and also
the same Netsock who posts with the ID of other posters here.

This is the same Netsock who gets to drive his daddy's jetboat once in a
while.

This is the same Harry Krause who single handedly ruined this NG with his
21,000 OT posts and his constant stalking and personal attacks of members
here.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:36:01 -0400, Netsuck wrote:

Netsock wrote:
"Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote in message
...

Harry,


[snip]


Harry Krause wrote:


Get yourself a covered slip. Keeps most of the crap off the boat, keeps
the UV off the boat.


What did you do Krause, look up on the internet how UV is bad for boats?

LOL!




Hmmm. It's Netsock, but this time he's not using the anonymizer he's
been using lately.

This is the same Netsock who a few years ago after a bit of posting
annoyance dared us to get his ISP at OSU to cancel his account, and also
the same Netsock who posts with the ID of other posters here.

This is the same Netsock who gets to drive his daddy's jetboat once in a
while.

Who's always bitching about fake names?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

UV will degrade just about everything, including asphalt.

Most plastics if not protected by a UV block of some sort will degrade
fairly quickly.


"Netsock" wrote in message
...

"Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote in message
...
Harry,

[snip]

Harry Krause wrote:

Get yourself a covered slip. Keeps most of the crap off the boat, keeps
the UV off the boat.

What did you do Krause, look up on the internet how UV is bad for boats?

LOL!

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

How much is a covered slip for a 44' Zimmerman lobsta boat?
G
"Netsock" wrote in message
...

"Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote in message
...
Harry,

[snip]

Harry Krause wrote:

Get yourself a covered slip. Keeps most of the crap off the boat,
keeps
the UV off the boat.

What did you do Krause, look up on the internet how UV is bad for boats?

LOL!

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

"Harry Krause" OurIdiot@SomeVillage lied in message
...
Hmmm. It's Netsock, but this time he's not using the anonymizer he's
been using lately.

Heh heh. Sorry pin head, but I have never used an "anonymizer". Sounds like
more of your lies that you fabricate from thin air.

This is the same Netsock who a few years ago after a bit of posting
annoyance dared us to get his ISP at OSU to cancel his account,

Nope, wrong again num nuts...more of your lies.

and also
the same Netsock who posts with the ID of other posters here.

Sorry pea-brain, strike three...youre out!

This is the same Netsock who gets to drive his daddy's jetboat once in a
while.

Hey num-nuts, the offer is still on the table. If you want to be a man, and
stop hiding behind your claims, by proving what you say, a boat of your
choice is yours...

Please share with the group, how you came to the conclusion my 69 year old
Father has a jet boat? Or in fact, any of your other claims here.

Aw, cant do it? That's too bad. So you are not only a boatless liar, but a
coward too. :)

You're a pathetic excuse for a man, but I am flattered that I get you so
rattled, that you MUST have me "hear" you. [huge grin]


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
How much is a covered slip for a 44' Zimmerman lobsta boat?
G

ROTFLOL!!

Or a Parker, or a Dozi, or a Sea Ray, or a Bayliner, or a...

LOL!

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

"Netsock" wrote in message
...

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
How much is a covered slip for a 44' Zimmerman lobsta boat?
G

ROTFLOL!!

Or a Parker, or a Dozi, or a Sea Ray, or a Bayliner, or a...

LOL!

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



Hell, last fall he detailed the winterizing costs here for his modest 25
footer. When asked to do the same for his custom made lobster boat he went
silent.

Go figure. ;-)

"JimH" wrote in message
...
Hell, last fall he detailed the winterizing costs here for his modest 25
footer. When asked to do the same for his custom made lobster boat he
went
silent.

Go figure. ;-)

Yeah. Ive been convinced for quite sometime he doesnt own any boat. I guess
theres a chance he does, but he lies too much about things, and owning
others. Odds are, he got the costs off the web somewhere, and posted them
under his own name. Hes been caught doing that many times too.

And thats what he does when caught or confronted...he just ignores you. He
must think everything will go away if he clams up, but really all he is
doing is proving what you said was right on cue.

Its a shame...an ugly, old, fat, bald, boatless liar, that's a coward, AND
not very bright...what a life...

And then there he is...scurrying around this group like a grade school
child, chasing me, in a pathetic attempt for me to "hear" him...what a
man...

Sometimes, I actually feel sorry for him.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Gordon,
It is a 36' Custom Built Zimmerman Lobsta Boat. If you have to ask, you can
not afford it.


"Gordon" wrote in message
...
How much is a covered slip for a 44' Zimmerman lobsta boat?
G
"Netsock" wrote in message
...

"Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote in message
...
Harry,

[snip]

Harry Krause wrote:

Get yourself a covered slip. Keeps most of the crap off the boat,
keeps
the UV off the boat.

What did you do Krause, look up on the internet how UV is bad for boats?

LOL!

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Harry,
Take him on the Lobster Boat and you will get $10,000.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Netsock wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

Hell, last fall he detailed the winterizing costs here for his modest 25
footer. When asked to do the same for his custom made lobster boat he

went

silent.

Go figure. ;-)


Yeah. Ive been convinced for quite sometime he doesnt own any boat. I
guess
theres a chance he does, but he lies too much about things, and owning
others. Odds are, he got the costs off the web somewhere, and posted them
under his own name. Hes been caught doing that many times too.


You're "convinced," Netslit, because you suffer from low brain output.
Bring $1000 cash, meet me here, and I'll take you aboard my Parker, and
show you the registration and insurance documents. Or you can continue to
be wrong. Makes no difference to me.


And thats what he does when caught or confronted...he just ignores you.


I mostly ignore slobs who have nothing to contribute. Slobs like Boatless
Hertvik and you.



Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.

"The real ME" wrote in message
...
Harry,
Take him on the Lobster Boat and you will get $10,000.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Netsock wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

Hell, last fall he detailed the winterizing costs here for his modest 25
footer. When asked to do the same for his custom made lobster boat he

went

silent.

Go figure. ;-)


Yeah. Ive been convinced for quite sometime he doesnt own any boat. I
guess
theres a chance he does, but he lies too much about things, and owning
others. Odds are, he got the costs off the web somewhere, and posted
them
under his own name. Hes been caught doing that many times too.


You're "convinced," Netslit, because you suffer from low brain output.
Bring $1000 cash, meet me here, and I'll take you aboard my Parker, and
show you the registration and insurance documents. Or you can continue to
be wrong. Makes no difference to me.



No mention now of the infamous custom made 36 foot lobster boat.

Go figure. ;-)

Question:

Where's the "anonymous remailer" with 100 different screen names? He's
been posting OT complaints about other people being OT in most of the
threads..........but I notice he isn't chiming in here when the OT crap
turns into an attack on one of the non-conservatives.

Does this give us a clue to the type of person the Keystone Netcop
might be?

Curiouser, and curiouser, said Alice.

wrote in message
oups.com...
Question:

Where's the "anonymous remailer" with 100 different screen names? He's
been posting OT complaints about other people being OT in most of the
threads..........but I notice he isn't chiming in here when the OT crap
turns into an attack on one of the non-conservatives.



Where are you when some *conservative* is attacked here Chuck? I have never
seen you chime in on those threads.

Go figure.

"The real ME" wrote in message
...
Harry,
Take him on the Lobster Boat and you will get $10,000.
You're "convinced," Netslit, because you suffer from low brain output.
Bring $1000 cash, meet me here, and I'll take you aboard my Parker, and
show you the registration and insurance documents. Or you can continue
to
be wrong. Makes no difference to me.

You're an idiot Krause.



First, what is the $1000 for? Are you suggesting that I would give that to
you!? Or could it be that's the amount of money you would need to rent a
boat for that weekend, and make up some fake documents.



And that's just the type of person you are too, it's easy to tell. You
fabricate here, you will fabricate there. You have tried to pass other boats
off as your own in the past. You are pathetic.



Second, I wouldn't meet you if you paid me. Liars are the social scum of
people, and you are a repeated proven liar. I don't associates myself with
people of such low caliber. You are a duff.



Third, I find it interesting you make a proposition to me, after you ignored
my simple propositions to you. So simple in fact, all you had to do was
explain yourself, but you refused. Proving you are a coward as well.



Fourth, you incessant need to prove to me you have a boat, and for me to
"hear" you, is flattering, however unconvincing. You have lied so much in
this group, your reputation as a fabricator has dissolved any credibility
you ever had. You are a proven liar.


And that's what he does when caught or confronted...he just ignores
you.


I mostly ignore slobs who have nothing to contribute. Slobs like
Boatless
Hertvik and you.



ROTFLOL!! "Contribute"? Are you kidding me!? Aside from your OT posts, and
your plagiarized cut-n-pastes from the web, you contribute NOTHING to this
group.



You ARE a pathetic boatless liar, and a coward, and those are the facts.



Now run along little man...I have better things to do.




--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

HarryKrause says:

It doesn't matter who this new buttwipe is, whether he is another
"Smothers" variant, a Netsock variant, a Hertvik variant. a Fritz variant,
a Tuuk variant. They're all the same. Just filter all the right-wing
idiots out, and be done with them.

I don't care who they are. To me, they're all Smitherscum, even if they're
not. What difference does it make? They're all here to do the same thing,
and they all deserve the same treatment...a silent trip to the dumpster,
where they can reside with the rest of the garbage.


Here to do the same thing?? Yes to correct the blatent misrepresentation of
facts.

Lies (distorting facts) are one of the most henious crimes committed against
the young. They have no sense of history to pick out the lies and they
incorporate the misinformation into their world view.

Even Republican politicions when they try to make a point, do it by omission
not by distorting the facts.

Chuck,

You are incorrect. I have seen him make the same comments towards NYOB, and
I am not certain, but I think he might be considered a conservative.

I don't believe the Keystone Netcop's antics are effective at all, but when
you have people making 10-20 OT political trolls, no matter what their
political affiliation is, you know their only reason they are here is to
disrupt the NG. Harry and Jimcomma, make at least 80% of the cut and paste
political trolls. That might be the reason he attacks the liberals posts
more than the conservative ones.


wrote in message
oups.com...
Question:

Where's the "anonymous remailer" with 100 different screen names? He's
been posting OT complaints about other people being OT in most of the
threads..........but I notice he isn't chiming in here when the OT crap
turns into an attack on one of the non-conservatives.

Does this give us a clue to the type of person the Keystone Netcop
might be?

Curiouser, and curiouser, said Alice.

Harry,

Since I do not post OT political trolls, but only highlight your foolishness
when you make OT trolls, how can I be here to disrupt the NG. You have
already carried that thread into the gutter before I respond. You are just
upset because all of my posts directed towards you are true and factually
correct.



When you make an on topic post or respond to an on topic post without
personal attacks, I have never made any comment that would be considered
disruptive.



"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Chuck,

here is to
disrupt the NG.


Well, finally, an admission of why you are here...to disrupt the
newsgroup.

Harry Krause has made 21,000 OT posts to this group and blames others for
taking it into the gutter.

How absolutely funny.


"The real ME" wrote in message
...
Harry,

Since I do not post OT political trolls, but only highlight your
foolishness when you make OT trolls, how can I be here to disrupt the NG.
You have already carried that thread into the gutter before I respond.
You are just upset because all of my posts directed towards you are true
and factually correct.



When you make an on topic post or respond to an on topic post without
personal attacks, I have never made any comment that would be considered
disruptive.



"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Chuck,

here is to
disrupt the NG.


Well, finally, an admission of why you are here...to disrupt the
newsgroup.

"JimH" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause has made 21,000 OT posts to this group and blames others for
taking it into the gutter.

How absolutely funny.

He is typical of a brain dead liebral....whine about others doing what he is
guilty of .




"The real ME" wrote in message
...
Harry,

Since I do not post OT political trolls, but only highlight your
foolishness when you make OT trolls, how can I be here to disrupt the NG.
You have already carried that thread into the gutter before I respond.
You are just upset because all of my posts directed towards you are true
and factually correct.



When you make an on topic post or respond to an on topic post without
personal attacks, I have never made any comment that would be considered
disruptive.



"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Chuck,

here is to
disrupt the NG.


Well, finally, an admission of why you are here...to disrupt the
newsgroup.

Harry has made considerable more than 21,000 OT posts. 3 or 4 years ago he
had Google stop archiving his posts because they highlighted how disruptive
he was to the group.

Someone came up with a macro that would track his posting time and show that
Harry was never away from his computer more than 2 hrs at a time. The
person wanted to know how could Harry be a boater, when he never left his
computer.

Immediately after, Harry started his X no archive.


"JimH" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause has made 21,000 OT posts to this group and blames others for
taking it into the gutter.

How absolutely funny.


"The real ME" wrote in message
...
Harry,

Since I do not post OT political trolls, but only highlight your
foolishness when you make OT trolls, how can I be here to disrupt the NG.
You have already carried that thread into the gutter before I respond.
You are just upset because all of my posts directed towards you are true
and factually correct.



When you make an on topic post or respond to an on topic post without
personal attacks, I have never made any comment that would be considered
disruptive.



"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Chuck,

here is to
disrupt the NG.


Well, finally, an admission of why you are here...to disrupt the
newsgroup.

Harry,

For $500 I will take you for a spin on my boat. I also will pay $10,000
just to see your Lobster Boat and documents. Now talk to me about who is so
insecure that they need to fabricate NG lies.




"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Harry,

Since I do not post OT political trolls, but only highlight your
foolishness when you make OT trolls, how can I be here to disrupt the NG.
You have already carried that thread into the gutter before I respond.
You are just upset because all of my posts directed towards you are true
and factually correct.


You're never going to make a dollar "interpreting" my thoughts or
feelings, bozo.

I think you're a horse's ass. In most of your posts, you're simply playing
people. You've also posted here with literally dozens of different IDs in
order to see how much of a mess you could make in here. You're just
another heavy-breathing drooler, just like Hertvik, Fritz, Robbins,
Netsock, et al. The only difference between you and Tuuk is that your
language skills are a little better.

You ought to read carefully the responses to "Why do boats sink." When you
get a boat, you'll be able to avoid the problem.

Harry,

It is nice to see you admit that the only reason you posts in rec.boats is
to annoy "right-wing trash".

As far as if I have a real identity, the answer is yes.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Harry has made considerable more than 21,000 OT posts. 3 or 4 years ago
he had Google stop archiving his posts because they highlighted how
disruptive he was to the group.

Someone came up with a macro that would track his posting time and show
that Harry was never away from his computer more than 2 hrs at a time.
The person wanted to know how could Harry be a boater, when he never left
his computer.

Immediately after, Harry started his X no archive.


This is a nice theory on your part, dipstick, but it isn't even close.

My using the "no archive" bit began shortly after I became involved a
little in the Mozilla project, when some programmers in a private
discussion group started outlining the various features they were adding
to make what was to become a "new" Netscape and beyond a more interesting
program. Back then, there was discussion of adding additional entries to
the "ADDRESS" box, and one of these was an X-no-Archive. Back then, using
that "feature" was part automatic and part manual, the explanation of
which I won't get into here. Today, if you know how to modify a user
script, it can be automatic. In any event, it was one of many new and at
that time experimental features of Mozilla that I played with.

I keep it invoked these days because it always seems to get a rise out of
the right-wing trash, people like you, who spend your time plumbing the
depths of dejanews or whatever, to see what bit of nonsense from the past
you can dredge up and use against people. It annoys dregs of society like
you because some of my stuff is and some of my stuff is not autoarchived.
Tough, eh? It does add a bit of flavor to my ability to annoy right-wing
trash.



Another new feature is time posting. I used to do that a little, too. As
in, insert a Time Stamp he Friday, April 15, 2005, 9:59:39 AM

As for how many posts I've entered here, I haven't a clue, but since you
and half a dozen other buttwipes post here using my identity, who really
does know, eh? I mean, how many of the posts attributed to me really are
from me? How many are from you and other other right-wing garbage who
either want to be me or who want to try to create problems for me?

By the way, do you have a real identity?

I didn't think so.

Harry,
Speaking of lies, does your wife know you are ashamed of her chosen career
choice?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Harry,

It is nice to see you admit that the only reason you posts in rec.boats
is to annoy "right-wing trash".


Never said that, dipstick, but keep on trying. And lying.

Harry,

You do understand the bet.

If you do not provide proof that this is your boat, you will owe me $10,000.
If you agree, I will have my agent, JimH come down your way to pick up my
money.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Harry,

For $500 I will take you for a spin on my boat. I also will pay $10,000
just to see your Lobster Boat and documents. Now talk to me about who is
so insecure that they need to fabricate NG lies.


Right now, my boat's awaiting its turn for unwrapping, prep and launch at
the largest marina in the Deale, Maryland, area. The boat has dark
hullsides, a light-colored house and a small flying bridge. It's the only
boat that looks it right now in that immediate area, and the type of boat
it is is incorporated into its name on the stern, which is mostly
unwrapped.

Email me specifics (Name, address, telephone number, auto and auto
license plate number) and I'll verify them and forward to you the location
of the entrance to the yard. Once you arrive, my designee will collect the
cash from you (no checks), give you 60 seconds to look over the papers,
and take you to the boat. You'll have 60 seconds to walk around it until
you are escorted out of the yard. Better hurry, though. She'll set to be
splashed any day now and then run down to Solomons Island.

Go for it, buttwiper...or put on two pairs of rubber gloves and forever
hold your piece.

As for a spin on your boat, I'll pass.

"The real ME" wrote in message
...
Harry,

For $500 I will take you for a spin on my boat. I also will pay $10,000
just to see your Lobster Boat and documents. Now talk to me about who is
so insecure that they need to fabricate NG lies.


poor harry.......jealousy is just eating away at him





"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Harry,

Since I do not post OT political trolls, but only highlight your
foolishness when you make OT trolls, how can I be here to disrupt the
NG. You have already carried that thread into the gutter before I
respond. You are just upset because all of my posts directed towards you
are true and factually correct.


You're never going to make a dollar "interpreting" my thoughts or
feelings, bozo.

I think you're a horse's ass. In most of your posts, you're simply
playing people. You've also posted here with literally dozens of
different IDs in order to see how much of a mess you could make in here.
You're just another heavy-breathing drooler, just like Hertvik, Fritz,
Robbins, Netsock, et al. The only difference between you and Tuuk is that
your language skills are a little better.

You ought to read carefully the responses to "Why do boats sink." When
you get a boat, you'll be able to avoid the problem.

"The real ME" wrote in message
...
Harry,

You do understand the bet.

If you do not provide proof that this is your boat, you will owe me
$10,000.
If you agree, I will have my agent, JimH come down your way to pick up my
money.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Harry,

For $500 I will take you for a spin on my boat. I also will pay
$10,000
just to see your Lobster Boat and documents. Now talk to me about who
is
so insecure that they need to fabricate NG lies.


Right now, my boat's awaiting its turn for unwrapping, prep and launch
at
the largest marina in the Deale, Maryland, area.

Right, right...would that be the Zimmerman, or the Donzi?

The boat has dark
hullsides, a light-colored house and a small flying bridge. It's the
only
boat that looks it right now in that immediate area, and the type of
boat
it is is incorporated into its name on the stern, which is mostly
unwrapped.

He must have spotted someone elses boat. He has passed other peoples boats
off as his in the past.

Email me specifics (Name, address, telephone number, auto and auto
license plate number) and I'll verify them and forward to you the
location
of the entrance to the yard. Once you arrive, my designee will collect
the
cash from you (no checks), give you 60 seconds to look over the papers,
and take you to the boat. You'll have 60 seconds to walk around it until
you are escorted out of the yard.

LOL! Some strangers boat, with the papers Krause fabricated, and him not
even present.

What an idiot...

Better hurry, though. She'll set to be
splashed any day now and then run down to Solomons Island.

Right, right. Can I do it next week? I'm going up on the next space shuttle,
and will be tied up in the space station all summer. ;)

What a maroon... [huge grin]

The real ME wrote:
Harry,

You do understand the bet.

If you do not provide proof that this is your boat, you will owe me $10,000.
If you agree, I will have my agent, JimH come down your way to pick up my
money.


Do you think that's wise? JimH has proven time and again that he's
unreliable and either a 'natural born liar' or he has some condition
that causes him to lose touch with reality. So you can pity or despise
him....just don't let him hold your money.(IMHO)

Just as I thought, I see you are running scared.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Harry,

You do understand the bet.

If you do not provide proof that this is your boat, you will owe me
$10,000. If you agree, I will have my agent, JimH come down your way to
pick up my money.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

The real ME wrote:

Harry,

For $500 I will take you for a spin on my boat. I also will pay $10,000
just to see your Lobster Boat and documents. Now talk to me about who
is so insecure that they need to fabricate NG lies.


You made an offer, you did not propose a bet.
I accepted your offer.

This is what you offered:

"I also will pay $10,000 just to see your Lobster Boat and documents."


My terms in response to your offer were thusly stated:

"Email me specifics (Name, address, telephone number, auto and auto
license plate number) and I'll verify them and forward to you the location
of the entrance to the yard. Once you arrive, my designee will collect the
cash from you (no checks), give you 60 seconds to look over the papers,
and take you to the boat. You'll have 60 seconds to walk around it until
you are escorted out of the yard. Better hurry, though. She'll set to be
splashed any day now and then run down to Solomons Island."


You did not mention a "bet" in your original offer, which I accepted on a
reasonable basis. *Now* you want to make your offer a bet?

Foch off.

Your mouth is making promises your wallet cannot keep.

And you want your alter ego, Hertvik, involved?

Double foch off.

Go play with your boy Tuuk.

Harry,

It is good to see you are not dumb enough to accept a bet that you own a
Lobster Boat, your wife would be ****ed if you lost $10,000. I dangled the
bait concerning $10,000 because I knew if you thought you had nothing to
lose, you would jump on it. As soon as you realized you had to prove proof
of ownership, you jumped shipped.

It is so funny to watch you backpeddle.

PS - I am willing to accept a $10,000 bet that you wife does not have a MD
and PHD degree. PS - the Maryland AMA does not have your wife listed as a
member.

Here is an easy way to make $20,000, but of course you can not accept the
bet, because you would lose the bet.

The only difference between you and Basskisser is at he is smart enough to
know when looks like a fool.






"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
The real ME wrote:
Just as I thought, I see you are running scared.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

The real ME wrote:

Harry,

You do understand the bet.

If you do not provide proof that this is your boat, you will owe me
$10,000. If you agree, I will have my agent, JimH come down your way to
pick up my money.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...


The real ME wrote:


Harry,

For $500 I will take you for a spin on my boat. I also will pay
$10,000 just to see your Lobster Boat and documents. Now talk to me
about who is so insecure that they need to fabricate NG lies.


You made an offer, you did not propose a bet.
I accepted your offer.

This is what you offered:

"I also will pay $10,000 just to see your Lobster Boat and documents."


My terms in response to your offer were thusly stated:

"Email me specifics (Name, address, telephone number, auto and auto
license plate number) and I'll verify them and forward to you the
location of the entrance to the yard. Once you arrive, my designee will
collect the cash from you (no checks), give you 60 seconds to look over
the papers, and take you to the boat. You'll have 60 seconds to walk
around it until you are escorted out of the yard. Better hurry, though.
She'll set to be splashed any day now and then run down to Solomons
Island."


You did not mention a "bet" in your original offer, which I accepted on a
reasonable basis. *Now* you want to make your offer a bet?

Foch off.

Your mouth is making promises your wallet cannot keep.

And you want your alter ego, Hertvik, involved?

Double foch off.

Go play with your boy Tuuk.





I'm running scared? I accepted your offer *as* you made it.
AFTER I accepted your offer, you realized what you had done,
and tried to turn your offer into a BET.

Go play with Tuuk and Hertvik.
And keep backpedaling.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH has proven time and again that he's
unreliable and either a 'natural born liar'

[snip]

You're kidding us, right Don?

Nobody, absolutely nobody, lies here as much as our boatless koward
Krause...period.

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

"The real ME" wrote in message
...
Just as I thought, I see you are running scared.

Yup, he's a pathetic coward on top of being boatless liar. And sort of a
dim-witted one to boot.

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

"Netsock" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH has proven time and again that he's
unreliable and either a 'natural born liar'

[snip]

You're kidding us, right Don?

Nobody, absolutely nobody, lies here as much as our boatless koward
Krause...period.

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



Milquetoast Donny is upset since I reminded him last night that he needs to
get his head out of Krause's ass every so often.

Krause and Donny. They deserve each other.

"The real ME" wrote in message
...
Harry,

It is good to see you are not dumb enough to accept a bet that you own a
Lobster Boat, your wife would be ****ed if you lost $10,000. I dangled
the
bait concerning $10,000 because I knew if you thought you had nothing to
lose, you would jump on it. As soon as you realized you had to prove
proof
of ownership, you jumped shipped.

Exactly. Ten grand is probably about half his yearly salary too. Im sure he
has never even seen that much money, let alone, be able to get a hold of it.

It is so funny to watch you backpeddle.

Yeah, but it does get old. Especially since he is not bright enough to see
how ridiculous he really is.

PS - I am willing to accept a $10,000 bet that you wife does not have a MD
and PHD degree. PS - the Maryland AMA does not have your wife listed as a
member.

Ill double that bet. Just more of his lies.

Here is an easy way to make $20,000, but of course you can not accept the
bet, because you would lose the bet.

Its now up to 40K.

The only difference between you and Basskisser is at he is smart enough to
know when looks like a fool.

LOL! Aint that the truth!

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/