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Or perhaps the people like youself who don't understand the meaning of the
word "spam". http://spam.abuse.net/overview/whatisspam.shtml "Usenet spam robs users of the utility of the newsgroups by overwhelming them with a barrage of advertising or other irrelevant posts." Its obviously you who does not understand. |
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Personally, I think the O.T.s have very little to say, that has any value.
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From: obull (CCred68046) Or perhaps the people like youself who don't understand the meaning of the word "spam". http://spam.abuse.net/overview/whatisspam.shtml "Usenet spam robs users of the utility of the newsgroups by overwhelming them with a barrage of advertising or other irrelevant posts." Its obviously you who does not understand. Based on that quote taken out of contexted perhaps. But taken in the context of the whole article, perhaps not: "There are two main types of spam, and they have different effects on Internet users. Cancellable Usenet spam is a single message sent to 20 or more Usenet newsgroups. (Through long experience, Usenet users have found that any message posted to so many newsgroups is often not relevant to most or all of them.) Usenet spam is aimed at "lurkers", people who read newsgroups but rarely or never post and give their address away. Usenet spam robs users of the utility of the newsgroups by overwhelming them with a barrage of advertising or other irrelevant posts. Furthermore, Usenet spam subverts the ability of system administrators and owners to manage the topics they accept on their systems." Note the quote: "Cancellable Usenet spam is a single message sent to 20 or more Usenet newsgroups." The OT posts you/we are talking about are NOT (in the vast majority of cases) sent to multiple groups. Nor are they aimed at lurkers: "Usenet spam is aimed at "lurkers"". Nice try though. Capt. Bill |
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strange, you OT's have your own rules. How can we actually get a moderator for
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your a phoney coward hiding behing a fake email name, aren't ya?
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"Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... strange, you OT's have your own rules. How can we actually get a moderator for this screwed up group? I'd be delighted to moderate. I am not sure that you would be happy with how it would work out! Mark Bronwe |
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From: (LaBomba182) Subject: Moderator? From: obull (CCred68046) Or perhaps the people like youself who don't understand the meaning of the word "spam". http://spam.abuse.net/overview/whatisspam.shtml "Usenet spam robs users of the utility of the newsgroups by overwhelming them with a barrage of advertising or other irrelevant posts." Its obviously you who does not understand. Based on that quote taken out of contexted perhaps. But taken in the context of the whole article, perhaps not: "There are two main types of spam, and they have different effects on Internet users. Cancellable Usenet spam is a single message sent to 20 or more Usenet newsgroups. (Through long experience, Usenet users have found that any message posted to so many newsgroups is often not relevant to most or all of them.) Usenet spam is aimed at "lurkers", people who read newsgroups but rarely or never post and give their address away. Usenet spam robs users of the utility of the newsgroups by overwhelming them with a barrage of advertising or other irrelevant posts. Furthermore, Usenet spam subverts the ability of system administrators and owners to manage the topics they accept on their systems." Note the quote: "Cancellable Usenet spam is a single message sent to 20 or more Usenet newsgroups." The OT posts you/we are talking about are NOT (in the vast majority of cases) sent to multiple groups. Nor are they aimed at lurkers: "Usenet spam is aimed at "lurkers"". Nice try though. Capt. Bill Opps! Forgot to add this to the above: "The term "spam," as used on this newsgroup, means "the same article (or essentially the same article) posted an unacceptably high number of times to one or more newsgroups." CONTENT IS IRRELEVANT. 'Spam' doesn't mean "ads." It doesn't mean "abuse." It doesn't mean "posts whose content I object to." Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that can be measured pretty objectively: did that post appear X times?" Note: " Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that can be measured pretty objectively: did that post appear X times?" And: " It doesn't mean "posts whose content I object to" http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html#2.1 Like I said, nice try. Capt. Bill |
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Based on that quote taken out of contexted perhaps.
LOL, so... not only are you an authority on politics but also on spam.... That makes sense, they go together. |
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Whats your email address, not that one you post with. Bawk!
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and the truly sad part, is all this OT krap is kililng this group. All will be
left is the cowards posting under false names. Serves em right, I suppose. |
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Capt. Bill,
Since we are discussing Newsgroup terms and definitions, I wonder if anyone has ever read the common accepted Newsgroup Netiquette Newsgroup Netiquette If you participate in USENET Newsgroups, Web-based Discussion Groups or Message Boards, there are a few important things to know. Lurk before you leap. Lurking is the practice of reading the postings in a group for a week or so before posting a message yourself. No one will know you are lurking, and you can get a feel for the types of personalities in the group, what types of things are discussed, and what topics or behaviors are frowned upon. You may even find after lurking for a week that you do not want to participate in the discussion. Know the FAQs. Most groups have a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) that will tell you about any rules that govern the group, and the expectations the group has for those who will participate. Do not post "off topic". If the discussion group is about quantum physics, do not post something about the latest episode of "Friends". Find the Right Group Don't stray from the topic of the newsgroup or Mailing List Discussion Group. These groups have formed for a reason, and their participants are involved to discuss and share ideas on particular topics. Respect the group and its members by sticking to appropriate issues. The Internet is a big place, and you can bet there's a group out there just for you. Avoid Flame Wars. A Flame is a posting in which one participant attacks another participant in an overly harsh and personal manner. The person who is flamed will usually respond in kind, which invites another flame, and so on. If you are not involved, it is best to stay out of it; and, if you are, end it as soon as reasonably possible. Ignore Flame Bait. Flame bait is when someone posts a comment that is specifically designed to provoke a reaction and start a flame war. This is also called trolling, and it is often aimed at newbies. Some people do this just for kicks and then sit back and watch the flames fly. An example of trolling would be someone in a Mustang car owners discussion group making overtly negative comments about Mustangs. Don't take the bait. If everyone ignores the comment, the troller will go somewhere else. Do not advertise. Like unsolicited email advertising, posting an advertisement in a discussion group that does not specifically allow this practice is spamming. This is against our Acceptable Use Policy, as it is with all reputable ISPs. However, if you are a regular participant of a discussion group, and the opportunity presents itself, you may be able to get in a plug. For example, if you are an active member of a photography discussion group and you also happen to sell antique cameras, it usually would be appropriate to respond to someone in the group who asks where they can find antique cameras. If you are a regular member of the group, you will learn what you can and cannot do. When in doubt, read the FAQ for that group. "LaBomba182" wrote in message ... "The term "spam," as used on this newsgroup, means "the same article (or essentially the same article) posted an unacceptably high number of times to one or more newsgroups." CONTENT IS IRRELEVANT. 'Spam' doesn't mean "ads." It doesn't mean "abuse." It doesn't mean "posts whose content I object to." Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that can be measured pretty objectively: did that post appear X times?" |
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"Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... and the truly sad part, is all this OT krap is kililng this group. All will be left is the cowards posting under false names. Serves em right, I suppose. Help me out he Is you name Florida Keys? Mark Browne |
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John...please dont confuse this man with facts. He is a Captain you know...
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"Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... Whats your email address, not that one you post with. Bawk! Mr. Keyz, Why do you need that? The only valid reason I can think of is to send some poison dripping purple prose that *even you* don't think is suitable for general consumption. It does not seem that you want to e-mail him off list, you have been very vocal about whining into the list. Are you planning to send him a virus? The reason I feel the need to ask is that I recall that there have been some reports of virus files being sent to members of this newsgroup. Could Mr. Keyz be a naughty hacker? Or are you planning to e-mail bomb someone? Just as bad, really. Well, you have my e-mail address, plus the FISH. I will let the newsgroup know how it goes. Mark Browne PS My boat is still sleeping under a cover, but the snow is melting. |
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"Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... and the truly sad part, is all this OT krap is kililng this group. All will be left is the cowards posting under false names. Serves em right, I suppose. This news group got infected back in November of 2000 when everyone's political views came out rather then everyone just talking about boats. |
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:43:43 GMT, "Mark Browne"
wrote: "Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... and the truly sad part, is all this OT krap is kililng this group. All will be left is the cowards posting under false names. Serves em right, I suppose. Help me out he Is you name Florida Keys? Mark Browne Sorry about repeating your question. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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No, my name is Sterling, but I don't have that for an email. I use my real
email address, and my real name. What's your point? Nevermind, I don't even care what your point was. |
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Der john, dumb question.
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you guys are really paranoids. You can't get a virus unles you open a file, and
hopefully you knew that. |
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Your pretty much the worst group of so called boaters I have ever met.
I have been in boating most of my life, and generaly found boaters to be a very nice group. Untill some of the spincters I have seen on this group. On that that note.. shove off. |
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"Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... you guys are really paranoids. You can't get a virus unles you open a file, and hopefully you knew that. The questions remain unanswered. Mark Browne |
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"Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... No, my name is Sterling, but I don't have that for an email. I use my real email address, and my real name. snip Bob Sterling? Steling Anderson? It does not seem like you have really answered the question. Mark Browne |
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What mark you wanna date me?
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another armchair sailor
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From: John H " Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that can be measured pretty objectively: did that post appear X times?" And: " It doesn't mean "posts whose content I object to" http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html#2.1 Like I said, nice try. Capt. Bill Personally, I think that any post in favor of Kerry is spam at it's worst. Sorry about butting in, but I had to get that off my chest. I feel much better now. No problem. Jump in at any time about anything. That's beauty of this newsgroup.:-) I'll feel *really* good when I can put my boat in the water in two weeks! :-) Capt. Bill |
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From: "John Smith" Capt. Bill, Since we are discussing Newsgroup terms and definitions, I wonder if anyone has ever read the common accepted Newsgroup Netiquette snip That's old news and all well and good. But the "cat's out of the bag" at this point. The most of the cat could be put back into the bag if the OT whinners would just not post OT posts about OT posts. And stop replying to the OT posts. It's that simple. But I don't see it happening anytime soon. Do you? Capt. Bill |
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LaBomba182 wrote: Subject: Moderator? From: John H " Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that can be measured pretty objectively: did that post appear X times?" And: " It doesn't mean "posts whose content I object to" http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html#2.1 Like I said, nice try. Capt. Bill Personally, I think that any post in favor of Kerry is spam at it's worst. SO there is no objection to my continuing the anti-Bush posts ;-) Thank you in advance Sorry about butting in, but I had to get that off my chest. I feel much better now. No problem. Jump in at any time about anything. That's beauty of this newsgroup.:-) I'll feel *really* good when I can put my boat in the water in two weeks! :-) Capt. Bill |
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From: obull (CCred68046) Based on that quote taken out of contexted perhaps. LOL, so... not only are you an authority on politics but also on spam.... That makes sense, they go together. Perhaps not an "authority on spam. But at least I showed I knew more than you. Of course that's not saying much now is it. And your comment about my "authority on politics" just shows how clueless you truly are. Capt. Bill |
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From: "Mark Browne" "Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... No, my name is Sterling, but I don't have that for an email. I use my real email address, and my real name. snip Bob Sterling? Steling Anderson? It does not seem like you have really answered the question. http://members.aol.com/CaptSterl/ It's not much of a secret as to who Sterling is. Capt. Bill |
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"Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... What mark you wanna date me? Hmmm, you should lay off the sauce. It seems to be affecting either your memory or your powers of logical thinking. Perhaps both. First you whine about newsgroup members hiding their names and e-mail addresses. Then you get all weird when we ask about yours. Mark Browne |
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 17:27:14 -0500, Jim wrote:
LaBomba182 wrote: Subject: Moderator? From: John H " Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that can be measured pretty objectively: did that post appear X times?" And: " It doesn't mean "posts whose content I object to" http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html#2.1 Like I said, nice try. Capt. Bill Personally, I think that any post in favor of Kerry is spam at it's worst. SO there is no objection to my continuing the anti-Bush posts ;-) Thank you in advance Yes, your anti-Bush posts are also spam. I object to spam in all its forms. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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Thank you. And, the coyote dropping responded as expected, at 4:48 PM on
3/6. :-) "Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message ... Doug, Do ya know what I like about you, besides being a top poster. :-) Ya have a way with words:".....in every nice forest, there are weeds and coyote droppings." Paul "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... Actually, Basskisser, Harry, NOYB and jps post some very informative and accurate responses to boating questions. I agree with you about the name-calling, and Harry could lay off that routine a bit. But it's actually been interesting to follow the evolution of a few of the more civilized people here. People have often found that they agree more than they disagree. John H and Noah are perfect examples of that. I could live next door to John H and not kill him...I think. As far as Tuuk, Wally, etc.....in every nice forest, there are weeds and coyote droppings. "John Smith" wrote in message news:h%62c.186479$uV3.783757@attbi_s51... Doug, The answer is obvious, you ignore it. Now, let me ask you a question, when you read Basskisser, NOYB, Harry, jps, Tuuk, Wally etc. it is very obvious that they do not come here to discuss boats, they like to discuss politics. Many people enjoy discussing and arguing about politics, so they are not unusal. What is unusual is that the prefer to discuss politcs in rec.boats. Why not go to one of the politcal discussion groups? Now your point is just ignore the posts if you don't like them. Well I do, and many other do the same thing. What is the harm from people calling each other names? The problem is that most of the very knowledgeable boaters, mechanics, suppliers and people who used to enjoy discussing boats have left this group because they found it too irrating seeing adults behavning like children. The people who want to discuss boats or have questions answered find their questions or requests for boating discussions are overlooked by the regulars, because they really don't want to discuss boats. At one time, the regulars would enjoy discussing boats and would get into OT discussions as a way to pass the time. That is not the case today. Today the majority of the regulars come here to argue politics and call their opponets names. The poor person who comes in this group often finds his legitmate questions ignored by the regulars because they are too busy with their political mud slinging. That is the problem with 80% of the posts being off topic. Now, do I believe anything I said will change the topics and political trolling that goes on here? No way, I don't believe it will change, but you are a smart person and you should understand why some people who come to this newsgroup are offended by the 80% of off topic BS. It really would not be so bad, if people actually made politcal statements that made sense, but most of the posts are "you are stupid", the __________ are destroying the world as we know it", you don't know anything, and I know it all. One of the regulars who seems to be intellegent thinks if he uses profanity by changing the spelling (ie dumfock) it makes it more politically correct. It doesn't, all it does is make him look silly. The person who started this thread, thought his comments would make a difference. That showed that he is a newbie to rec.boats, but it was not an unreasonable request. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I'm sure the proportions will change as the boats go back in the water. But, my question is still a valid one which some people can't answer. What do you do when you see a boating question that's of no interest to you whatsoever? "John Smith" wrote in message news:Ks42c.122743$4o.163236@attbi_s52... Doug, I know my post will not make a difference, but what has happened is that most of the contributors who liked the forum as a group to discussion boats, have long left this group. The regulars now come here to discuss politics and ignore most posts concerning boats. As I said, I know the group wont' change, but Joe's posts is a fair request. At one time, this group was 90% on topic and 10% off topic, it is now about 80% OFF TOPIC and 20% on topic. Since the group is not moderated, it will go whatever way the regulars want it to go, but I am sure we will see less and less boating topics as this group is taking over by those who think it is a political forum. It appears that the regulars want this to be a political forum. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... If you see a topic regarding bilge pumps, but you have no interest in that at the moment, what do you do? "Joe. R" wrote in message link.net... Doesn't this board have a moderator? It's really a downer to see a once fine source of information on boats and boating in general get polluted by non boating garbage. There are other sites where folks can spout off on non-boating topics. jr |
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A phoney coward? Does that make him brave and valiant?
"Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... your a phoney coward hiding behing a fake email name, aren't ya? |
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