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Bush shows his ignorance yet again
jps wrote:
In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:52:06 -0800, jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On 4 Mar 2004 09:06:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: 03-04) 05:10 PST NEW YORK (AP) -- President Bush's re-election campaign on Thursday defended commercials using images from the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, including wreckage of the World Trade Center, as appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror. Good idea, b'asskisser. Cut and paste. Then no one can say a word about your spelling and grammar. Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Kerry's ads are taking advantage of a conflict in which, according to Kerry, thousands of innocent women and children were raped, killed or mutilated. Which is worse? John H Well then, using another "defining moment" in our history, why shouldn't Kerry use images of our American dead and wounded coming back from Iraq? That's a real equivalent in bad taste and emotional blackmail. jps Would those images somehow portray a job Kerry has done? Seems like he voted to send them, but then voted not to resource them. You're talking about images of the World Trade Center? Uh, the "job that was done" in that case was American-trained Saudis flew American planes into a symbol of American capitalism. I'm hoping Bush didn't arrange that just as I'm certain you hope that Kerry didn't arrange for dead and wounded kids to come back from Iraq. jps Herring will leave no stone unturned in his flaccid attempts to rationalize the behavior of George W. Bush, probably the worst president in the history of the United States. Bush and his cohorts have done more to harm this country than the 9-11 terrorists. He's failed to capture any significant number of terrorists, he's lied about his reasons to invade Iraq, he's sold the future of our children and grandchildren down the river, he's poisoned the environment, he's divided Americans along a half-dozen fault lines, he's done nothing to alleviate the misery of the long-term unemployed, he's allowed our infrastructure to deteriorate, and the list goes on and on and on. But Bush's failures matter not to Herring and other flat-line Republicans like him. They'll vote for Bush not matter what, utter foolw that they are. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
"John H" wrote in message
... You made the pejorative comment about the 'atmosphere of fear' which we were to accept as normal. My point was that you contradict yourself by making such a comment and then complaining that we aren't doing enough to protect ourselves (in *any* way, shape, or form). John H John, the suits are using fear to shrink peoples' rights. That's completely different from beefing up security for a mode of transportation which has been the victim of almost total neglect. One is common sense. The other is pandering to the worst elements in the legal community. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:06:15 -0500, DSK wrote:
Please also note that Republicans mostly disliked FDR, and the right-wing branch of the GOP actively hated and undermined him, and spread the most awful rumors they could think of. Some were outright Nazi sympathizers. Don't forget the attempted coup against FDR. http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:06:15 -0500, DSK wrote: Please also note that Republicans mostly disliked FDR, and the right-wing branch of the GOP actively hated and undermined him, and spread the most awful rumors they could think of. Some were outright Nazi sympathizers. Don't forget the attempted coup against FDR. http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html It is a vast right wing conspiracy. We have secret meetings every night. We even have a secret handshake and special decoder rings. I do not believe I have every read a conservative here stating he wished to kill Clinton. I have, however, read about wishes to kill Bush by a couple of loony lefties here, including the clown prince Krause. BTW: Do you guys see black helicopters following you at night? |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
Jim-- wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:06:15 -0500, DSK wrote: Please also note that Republicans mostly disliked FDR, and the right-wing branch of the GOP actively hated and undermined him, and spread the most awful rumors they could think of. Some were outright Nazi sympathizers. Don't forget the attempted coup against FDR. http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html It is a vast right wing conspiracy. We have secret meetings every night. We even have a secret handshake and special decoder rings. I do not believe I have every read a conservative here stating he wished to kill Clinton. I have, however, read about wishes to kill Bush by a couple of loony lefties here, including the clown prince Krause. Uh, sorry, crap-for-brains, but all I wish for Bush is a speedy retirement this fall, and perhaps, if we're lucky, a tar and feathering of the idiot as he leaves town. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:36:47 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:52:06 -0800, jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On 4 Mar 2004 09:06:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: 03-04) 05:10 PST NEW YORK (AP) -- President Bush's re-election campaign on Thursday defended commercials using images from the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, including wreckage of the World Trade Center, as appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror. Good idea, b'asskisser. Cut and paste. Then no one can say a word about your spelling and grammar. Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Kerry's ads are taking advantage of a conflict in which, according to Kerry, thousands of innocent women and children were raped, killed or mutilated. Which is worse? John H Well then, using another "defining moment" in our history, why shouldn't Kerry use images of our American dead and wounded coming back from Iraq? That's a real equivalent in bad taste and emotional blackmail. jps Would those images somehow portray a job Kerry has done? Seems like he voted to send them, but then voted not to resource them. You're talking about images of the World Trade Center? Uh, the "job that was done" in that case was American-trained Saudis flew American planes into a symbol of American capitalism. I'm hoping Bush didn't arrange that just as I'm certain you hope that Kerry didn't arrange for dead and wounded kids to come back from Iraq. jps Herring will leave no stone unturned in his flaccid attempts to rationalize the behavior of George W. Bush, probably the worst president in the history of the United States. Bush and his cohorts have done more to harm this country than the 9-11 terrorists. He's failed to capture any significant number of terrorists, he's lied about his reasons to invade Iraq, he's sold the future of our children and grandchildren down the river, he's poisoned the environment, he's divided Americans along a half-dozen fault lines, he's done nothing to alleviate the misery of the long-term unemployed, he's allowed our infrastructure to deteriorate, and the list goes on and on and on. But Bush's failures matter not to Herring and other flat-line Republicans like him. They'll vote for Bush not matter what, utter foolw that they are. And here I've been singing your praises and telling John Smith that most people aren't name-callers. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:06:15 -0500, DSK wrote: Please also note that Republicans mostly disliked FDR, and the right-wing branch of the GOP actively hated and undermined him, and spread the most awful rumors they could think of. Some were outright Nazi sympathizers. Don't forget the attempted coup against FDR. http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html It is a vast right wing conspiracy. We have secret meetings every night. We even have a secret handshake and special decoder rings. I do not believe I have every read a conservative here stating he wished to kill Clinton. I have, however, read about wishes to kill Bush by a couple of loony lefties here, including the clown prince Krause. Uh, sorry, crap-for-brains, but all I wish for Bush is a speedy retirement this fall, and perhaps, if we're lucky, a tar and feathering of the idiot as he leaves town. Sorry Krazy Krause but you cannot deny the death wishes you made on our President, along with a couple of other crazies from your lefty loony crowd. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:31:02 -0800, jps wrote:
In article , says... John H wrote: Not cheerleading, stating a fact. Your 'hiding out' argument is specious and ridiculous, as mentioned earlier. In other words, as far as you're concerned, what happens in real life, in the real world, is 'specious and ridiculous.' OTOH everything that is bragged about by the BushCo advertising moguls is 'stating a fact.' Interesting way of looking at things. Do you stub your toes a lot when you walk around with your eyes squinched up like that? Or do you just sit at home and take your walks in Bushie fantasy-land? DSK You made me laugh out loud, for real. jps I'm happy that you're happy! Thanks. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
Jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:06:15 -0500, DSK wrote: Please also note that Republicans mostly disliked FDR, and the right-wing branch of the GOP actively hated and undermined him, and spread the most awful rumors they could think of. Some were outright Nazi sympathizers. Don't forget the attempted coup against FDR. http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html It is a vast right wing conspiracy. We have secret meetings every night. We even have a secret handshake and special decoder rings. I do not believe I have every read a conservative here stating he wished to kill Clinton. I have, however, read about wishes to kill Bush by a couple of loony lefties here, including the clown prince Krause. Uh, sorry, crap-for-brains, but all I wish for Bush is a speedy retirement this fall, and perhaps, if we're lucky, a tar and feathering of the idiot as he leaves town. Sorry Krazy Krause but you cannot deny the death wishes you made on our President, along with a couple of other crazies from your lefty loony crowd. Sure I can. Never made any. Sorry. All I wish for Bush is a very, very speedy retirement. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:34:03 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: John H wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:05:24 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message om... It's a defining event for the future of our country. ... Bingo. There's the problem - the belief that 9/11 was a defining event. The administration would have us believe that the event defines the future indefinitely, and obliterates all other concerns. How perverse. People compare it to the attack on Pearl Harbor. Personally, I think it's worse, since it was perpetrated on civilians. The attack on Pearl Harbor certainly "defined the future indefinitely, and obliterated all other concerns"...in fact, it did so in a much more profound manner. Our way of life has hardly changed following 9/11. Compare that to the years immediately following Pearl Harbor. I was referring to the atmosphere of fear which Ashcroft and Bush would like us to accept as normal, thereby making it OK to carve away at the Constitution. All this to chase an enemy we cannot see or define clearly. Quite a bit different than fighting German and Japanese soldiers. Doug, are not the Democrats themselves continuously complaining about the insufficiency of money for homeland defense? Hasn't Harry himself used our lack of searching every container from every container ship as proof that Bush is falling down on the homeland security issue? Isn't the hardest part of this whole terrorist battle the fact that we *can't* see or define them clearly? John H Searching contrainer ships is a lot different from carving away at the Constitutional rights of citizens, but I wouldn't expect a d.f. like you to appreciate the difference. And I can't believe you have graced my post with a response. I am truly honored, Harry. Keep in mind, though, that you should spread the wealth, so to speak. Jealousy is easily come by. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:55:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . You made the pejorative comment about the 'atmosphere of fear' which we were to accept as normal. My point was that you contradict yourself by making such a comment and then complaining that we aren't doing enough to protect ourselves (in *any* way, shape, or form). John H John, the suits are using fear to shrink peoples' rights. That's completely different from beefing up security for a mode of transportation which has been the victim of almost total neglect. One is common sense. The other is pandering to the worst elements in the legal community. If we have something to fear, then measures should be taken to combat that which is fearsome. The method of combat may be argumentative, but the basis either exists or it doesn't. We can't stop the tons of drugs that enter this country, yet you would expect that we could find an item the size of a suitcase through increased port security. If we don't find and stop the item overseas, or keep it from being produced in the first place, then we will not find it in a container. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
"John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:36:47 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:52:06 -0800, jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On 4 Mar 2004 09:06:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: 03-04) 05:10 PST NEW YORK (AP) -- President Bush's re-election campaign on Thursday defended commercials using images from the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, including wreckage of the World Trade Center, as appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror. Good idea, b'asskisser. Cut and paste. Then no one can say a word about your spelling and grammar. Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Kerry's ads are taking advantage of a conflict in which, according to Kerry, thousands of innocent women and children were raped, killed or mutilated. Which is worse? John H Well then, using another "defining moment" in our history, why shouldn't Kerry use images of our American dead and wounded coming back from Iraq? That's a real equivalent in bad taste and emotional blackmail. jps Would those images somehow portray a job Kerry has done? Seems like he voted to send them, but then voted not to resource them. You're talking about images of the World Trade Center? Uh, the "job that was done" in that case was American-trained Saudis flew American planes into a symbol of American capitalism. I'm hoping Bush didn't arrange that just as I'm certain you hope that Kerry didn't arrange for dead and wounded kids to come back from Iraq. jps Herring will leave no stone unturned in his flaccid attempts to rationalize the behavior of George W. Bush, probably the worst president in the history of the United States. Bush and his cohorts have done more to harm this country than the 9-11 terrorists. He's failed to capture any significant number of terrorists, he's lied about his reasons to invade Iraq, he's sold the future of our children and grandchildren down the river, he's poisoned the environment, he's divided Americans along a half-dozen fault lines, he's done nothing to alleviate the misery of the long-term unemployed, he's allowed our infrastructure to deteriorate, and the list goes on and on and on. But Bush's failures matter not to Herring and other flat-line Republicans like him. They'll vote for Bush not matter what, utter foolw that they are. And here I've been singing your praises and telling John Smith that most people aren't name-callers. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Krause, bb, basskisser and jps cannot reply to anyone with opposing view without insulting them first. You generally don't see that on the other side of the fence. I will admit that I have sunk to their level a couple of times, but only after being insulted several time in the thread. It is indeed a shame that they cannot carry on a civil discussion without having to resort to those childish name calling. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 18:42:43 -0500, Jim-- wrote:
It is a vast right wing conspiracy. We have secret meetings every night. We even have a secret handshake and special decoder rings. I do not believe I have every read a conservative here stating he wished to kill Clinton. I have, however, read about wishes to kill Bush by a couple of loony lefties here, including the clown prince Krause. BTW: Do you guys see black helicopters following you at night? I can name many democracies overthrown from the right. Name *one* overthrown from the left. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
Jim-- wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:36:47 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:52:06 -0800, jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On 4 Mar 2004 09:06:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: 03-04) 05:10 PST NEW YORK (AP) -- President Bush's re-election campaign on Thursday defended commercials using images from the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, including wreckage of the World Trade Center, as appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror. Good idea, b'asskisser. Cut and paste. Then no one can say a word about your spelling and grammar. Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Kerry's ads are taking advantage of a conflict in which, according to Kerry, thousands of innocent women and children were raped, killed or mutilated. Which is worse? John H Well then, using another "defining moment" in our history, why shouldn't Kerry use images of our American dead and wounded coming back from Iraq? That's a real equivalent in bad taste and emotional blackmail. jps Would those images somehow portray a job Kerry has done? Seems like he voted to send them, but then voted not to resource them. You're talking about images of the World Trade Center? Uh, the "job that was done" in that case was American-trained Saudis flew American planes into a symbol of American capitalism. I'm hoping Bush didn't arrange that just as I'm certain you hope that Kerry didn't arrange for dead and wounded kids to come back from Iraq. jps Herring will leave no stone unturned in his flaccid attempts to rationalize the behavior of George W. Bush, probably the worst president in the history of the United States. Bush and his cohorts have done more to harm this country than the 9-11 terrorists. He's failed to capture any significant number of terrorists, he's lied about his reasons to invade Iraq, he's sold the future of our children and grandchildren down the river, he's poisoned the environment, he's divided Americans along a half-dozen fault lines, he's done nothing to alleviate the misery of the long-term unemployed, he's allowed our infrastructure to deteriorate, and the list goes on and on and on. But Bush's failures matter not to Herring and other flat-line Republicans like him. They'll vote for Bush not matter what, utter foolw that they are. And here I've been singing your praises and telling John Smith that most people aren't name-callers. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Krause, bb, basskisser and jps cannot reply to anyone with opposing view without insulting them first. You generally don't see that on the other side of the fence. I will admit that I have sunk to their level a couple of times, but only after being insulted several time in the thread. It is indeed a shame that they cannot carry on a civil discussion without having to resort to those childish name calling. You're just right-wing trash, Dennis, and therefore not worth a civil discussion. I've posted any number of times I am NOT interested in "debates" or lengthy "discussions" with the right-wing trash here. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:36:47 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:52:06 -0800, jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On 4 Mar 2004 09:06:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: 03-04) 05:10 PST NEW YORK (AP) -- President Bush's re-election campaign on Thursday defended commercials using images from the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, including wreckage of the World Trade Center, as appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror. Good idea, b'asskisser. Cut and paste. Then no one can say a word about your spelling and grammar. Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Kerry's ads are taking advantage of a conflict in which, according to Kerry, thousands of innocent women and children were raped, killed or mutilated. Which is worse? John H Well then, using another "defining moment" in our history, why shouldn't Kerry use images of our American dead and wounded coming back from Iraq? That's a real equivalent in bad taste and emotional blackmail. jps Would those images somehow portray a job Kerry has done? Seems like he voted to send them, but then voted not to resource them. You're talking about images of the World Trade Center? Uh, the "job that was done" in that case was American-trained Saudis flew American planes into a symbol of American capitalism. I'm hoping Bush didn't arrange that just as I'm certain you hope that Kerry didn't arrange for dead and wounded kids to come back from Iraq. jps Herring will leave no stone unturned in his flaccid attempts to rationalize the behavior of George W. Bush, probably the worst president in the history of the United States. Bush and his cohorts have done more to harm this country than the 9-11 terrorists. He's failed to capture any significant number of terrorists, he's lied about his reasons to invade Iraq, he's sold the future of our children and grandchildren down the river, he's poisoned the environment, he's divided Americans along a half-dozen fault lines, he's done nothing to alleviate the misery of the long-term unemployed, he's allowed our infrastructure to deteriorate, and the list goes on and on and on. But Bush's failures matter not to Herring and other flat-line Republicans like him. They'll vote for Bush not matter what, utter foolw that they are. And here I've been singing your praises and telling John Smith that most people aren't name-callers. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Krause, bb, basskisser and jps cannot reply to anyone with opposing view without insulting them first. You generally don't see that on the other side of the fence. I will admit that I have sunk to their level a couple of times, but only after being insulted several time in the thread. It is indeed a shame that they cannot carry on a civil discussion without having to resort to those childish name calling. You're just right-wing trash, Dennis, and therefore not worth a civil discussion. I've posted any number of times I am NOT interested in "debates" or lengthy "discussions" with the right-wing trash here. Thanks for proving my point Harry. Have a nice night. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 18:42:43 -0500, Jim-- wrote: It is a vast right wing conspiracy. We have secret meetings every night. We even have a secret handshake and special decoder rings. I do not believe I have every read a conservative here stating he wished to kill Clinton. I have, however, read about wishes to kill Bush by a couple of loony lefties here, including the clown prince Krause. BTW: Do you guys see black helicopters following you at night? I can name many democracies overthrown from the right. Name *one* overthrown from the left. Attempted and successful government takeovers by the left: 1923: Spain 1926: Italy 1926: Poland 1933: Germany 1933: Uruguay 1933: Austria 1934: Estonia 1934: Latvia 1935: Ecuador 1936: Greece 1936: Spain 1938: Czechoslovakia 1940: Belgium, Denmark, France, Netherlands, Norway 1943: Argentina 1947: Ecuador 1948: Venezuela 1948: Czechoslovakia 1962: Burma 1963: Ecuador 1966: Argentina 1964: Brazil 1967: Greece 1968: Peru 1972: Ecuador 1972: Philippines 1973: Uruguay 1973: Chile 1975: India 1976: Argentina 1987: Zimbabwe 1999: Pakistan Will that do? |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
Jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:36:47 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:52:06 -0800, jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On 4 Mar 2004 09:06:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: 03-04) 05:10 PST NEW YORK (AP) -- President Bush's re-election campaign on Thursday defended commercials using images from the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, including wreckage of the World Trade Center, as appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror. Good idea, b'asskisser. Cut and paste. Then no one can say a word about your spelling and grammar. Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Kerry's ads are taking advantage of a conflict in which, according to Kerry, thousands of innocent women and children were raped, killed or mutilated. Which is worse? John H Well then, using another "defining moment" in our history, why shouldn't Kerry use images of our American dead and wounded coming back from Iraq? That's a real equivalent in bad taste and emotional blackmail. jps Would those images somehow portray a job Kerry has done? Seems like he voted to send them, but then voted not to resource them. You're talking about images of the World Trade Center? Uh, the "job that was done" in that case was American-trained Saudis flew American planes into a symbol of American capitalism. I'm hoping Bush didn't arrange that just as I'm certain you hope that Kerry didn't arrange for dead and wounded kids to come back from Iraq. jps Herring will leave no stone unturned in his flaccid attempts to rationalize the behavior of George W. Bush, probably the worst president in the history of the United States. Bush and his cohorts have done more to harm this country than the 9-11 terrorists. He's failed to capture any significant number of terrorists, he's lied about his reasons to invade Iraq, he's sold the future of our children and grandchildren down the river, he's poisoned the environment, he's divided Americans along a half-dozen fault lines, he's done nothing to alleviate the misery of the long-term unemployed, he's allowed our infrastructure to deteriorate, and the list goes on and on and on. But Bush's failures matter not to Herring and other flat-line Republicans like him. They'll vote for Bush not matter what, utter foolw that they are. And here I've been singing your praises and telling John Smith that most people aren't name-callers. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Krause, bb, basskisser and jps cannot reply to anyone with opposing view without insulting them first. You generally don't see that on the other side of the fence. I will admit that I have sunk to their level a couple of times, but only after being insulted several time in the thread. It is indeed a shame that they cannot carry on a civil discussion without having to resort to those childish name calling. You're just right-wing trash, Dennis, and therefore not worth a civil discussion. I've posted any number of times I am NOT interested in "debates" or lengthy "discussions" with the right-wing trash here. Thanks for proving my point Harry. Have a nice night. It's not *your* point, dummy. It is my oft-stated position. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
Jim-- wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 18:42:43 -0500, Jim-- wrote: It is a vast right wing conspiracy. We have secret meetings every night. We even have a secret handshake and special decoder rings. I do not believe I have every read a conservative here stating he wished to kill Clinton. I have, however, read about wishes to kill Bush by a couple of loony lefties here, including the clown prince Krause. BTW: Do you guys see black helicopters following you at night? I can name many democracies overthrown from the right. Name *one* overthrown from the left. Attempted and successful government takeovers by the left: 1923: Spain 1926: Italy 1926: Poland 1933: Germany 1933: Uruguay 1933: Austria 1934: Estonia 1934: Latvia 1935: Ecuador 1936: Greece 1936: Spain 1938: Czechoslovakia 1940: Belgium, Denmark, France, Netherlands, Norway 1943: Argentina 1947: Ecuador 1948: Venezuela 1948: Czechoslovakia 1962: Burma 1963: Ecuador 1966: Argentina 1964: Brazil 1967: Greece 1968: Peru 1972: Ecuador 1972: Philippines 1973: Uruguay 1973: Chile 1975: India 1976: Argentina 1987: Zimbabwe 1999: Pakistan Will that do? What a giggle. |
Bush shows his ignorance yet again
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:06:15 -0500, DSK wrote: Please also note that Republicans mostly disliked FDR, and the right-wing branch of the GOP actively hated and undermined him, and spread the most awful rumors they could think of. Some were outright Nazi sympathizers. Don't forget the attempted coup against FDR. http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html It is a vast right wing conspiracy. We have secret meetings every night. We even have a secret handshake and special decoder rings. I do not believe I have every read a conservative here stating he wished to kill Clinton. I have, however, read about wishes to kill Bush by a couple of loony lefties here, including the clown prince Krause. Uh, sorry, crap-for-brains, but all I wish for Bush is a speedy retirement this fall, and perhaps, if we're lucky, a tar and feathering of the idiot as he leaves town. Sorry Krazy Krause but you cannot deny the death wishes you made on our President, along with a couple of other crazies from your lefty loony crowd. Sure I can. Never made any. Sorry. Easy to say now that you have deleted your old posts. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:36:47 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 09:52:06 -0800, jps wrote: In article , jherring$$@ $$cox**.net says... On 4 Mar 2004 09:06:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: 03-04) 05:10 PST NEW YORK (AP) -- President Bush's re-election campaign on Thursday defended commercials using images from the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, including wreckage of the World Trade Center, as appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror. Good idea, b'asskisser. Cut and paste. Then no one can say a word about your spelling and grammar. Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Kerry's ads are taking advantage of a conflict in which, according to Kerry, thousands of innocent women and children were raped, killed or mutilated. Which is worse? John H Well then, using another "defining moment" in our history, why shouldn't Kerry use images of our American dead and wounded coming back from Iraq? That's a real equivalent in bad taste and emotional blackmail. jps Would those images somehow portray a job Kerry has done? Seems like he voted to send them, but then voted not to resource them. You're talking about images of the World Trade Center? Uh, the "job that was done" in that case was American-trained Saudis flew American planes into a symbol of American capitalism. I'm hoping Bush didn't arrange that just as I'm certain you hope that Kerry didn't arrange for dead and wounded kids to come back from Iraq. jps Herring will leave no stone unturned in his flaccid attempts to rationalize the behavior of George W. Bush, probably the worst president in the history of the United States. Bush and his cohorts have done more to harm this country than the 9-11 terrorists. He's failed to capture any significant number of terrorists, he's lied about his reasons to invade Iraq, he's sold the future of our children and grandchildren down the river, he's poisoned the environment, he's divided Americans along a half-dozen fault lines, he's done nothing to alleviate the misery of the long-term unemployed, he's allowed our infrastructure to deteriorate, and the list goes on and on and on. But Bush's failures matter not to Herring and other flat-line Republicans like him. They'll vote for Bush not matter what, utter foolw that they are. And here I've been singing your praises and telling John Smith that most people aren't name-callers. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! Krause, bb, basskisser and jps cannot reply to anyone with opposing view without insulting them first. You generally don't see that on the other side of the fence. I will admit that I have sunk to their level a couple of times, but only after being insulted several time in the thread. It is indeed a shame that they cannot carry on a civil discussion without having to resort to those childish name calling. You're just right-wing trash, Dennis, and therefore not worth a civil discussion. I've posted any number of times I am NOT interested in "debates" or lengthy "discussions" with the right-wing trash here. Thanks for proving my point Harry. Have a nice night. It's not *your* point, dummy. It is my oft-stated position. Thanks once more for proving my point Harry. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:06:15 -0500, DSK wrote: Please also note that Republicans mostly disliked FDR, and the right-wing branch of the GOP actively hated and undermined him, and spread the most awful rumors they could think of. Some were outright Nazi sympathizers. Don't forget the attempted coup against FDR. http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html It is a vast right wing conspiracy. We have secret meetings every night. We even have a secret handshake and special decoder rings. I do not believe I have every read a conservative here stating he wished to kill Clinton. I have, however, read about wishes to kill Bush by a couple of loony lefties here, including the clown prince Krause. Uh, sorry, crap-for-brains, but all I wish for Bush is a speedy retirement this fall, and perhaps, if we're lucky, a tar and feathering of the idiot as he leaves town. Sorry Krazy Krause but you cannot deny the death wishes you made on our President, along with a couple of other crazies from your lefty loony crowd. Sure I can. Never made any. Sorry. Easy to say now that you have deleted your old posts. I've not deleted anything, crap-for-brains. In fact, I don't even know how one would do that, since doing so is of no interest to me. Thanks for making my point (the fact that you always reply to those disagreeing with you with a childish insult) once again. |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:02:54 -0500, John H
wrote: Given the situation that day, I would not have wanted the President, no matter who it was, in the White House. To suggest he should have returned to the White House is ridiculous. Earth to John, nobody suggested he should have gone back to the White House. I'm sure the president has the capability to broadcast from places other than the White House. bb |
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In article , jherring$$@
$$cox**.net says... On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:31:02 -0800, jps wrote: In article , says... John H wrote: Not cheerleading, stating a fact. Your 'hiding out' argument is specious and ridiculous, as mentioned earlier. In other words, as far as you're concerned, what happens in real life, in the real world, is 'specious and ridiculous.' OTOH everything that is bragged about by the BushCo advertising moguls is 'stating a fact.' Interesting way of looking at things. Do you stub your toes a lot when you walk around with your eyes squinched up like that? Or do you just sit at home and take your walks in Bushie fantasy-land? DSK You made me laugh out loud, for real. jps I'm happy that you're happy! Thanks. You're most welcome! |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:53:24 GMT, bb wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 12:31:04 -0500, John H wrote: Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Leadership? Let's not forget about him hiding out during a very dark day for this country. Kerry's ads are taking advantage of a conflict in which, according to Kerry, thousands of innocent women and children were raped, killed or mutilated. Which is worse? According to the actual victims, Bush. bb You've polled the victims of both? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 00:34:32 GMT, bb wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:02:54 -0500, John H wrote: Given the situation that day, I would not have wanted the President, no matter who it was, in the White House. To suggest he should have returned to the White House is ridiculous. Earth to John, nobody suggested he should have gone back to the White House. I'm sure the president has the capability to broadcast from places other than the White House. bb What would you have had him do or say? He didn't have a bunch of people on the scene to provide him immediate information. Of course, you may be one of those who proclaim he knew about the attack in advance and was probably involved in the planning. Then I could understand your position. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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jps wrote: Well then, using another "defining moment" in our history, why shouldn't Kerry use images of our American dead and wounded coming back from Iraq? Ah, a liberal defining moment. NO care for fellow human beings who are being murdered, oppressed, and tortured beyond belief. No self-sacrifice in a liberal for a fellow-human being, just empty words and hot air about how much they "care". -- Charlie |
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Jim wrote: Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out That plane that went down due to the heroic actions of those on board, who understood what was happening, is nothing more than knife in your hand to attack others. How pathetic is that. How contemptible you are. You'll never rise to level of those on board that plane who gave their lives for the good of others. Yours is a banal horizon, the installed in power of some political double-talker who has beguiled you. -- Charlie |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 12:50:31 -0500, Jim wrote:
John H wrote: Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out All in all I'd say the presidents' actions on 9/11 are nothing to brag about Jim, we had not normally been keeping an air defense battery around the twin towers or the Pentagon. The closest air defense we had was at Fort Belvoir, VA. That's about an hour from the Pentagon on a good day, assuming the troops were loaded and ready to go. We had not been keeping F-16's on the ready rack at Andrews AFB either. Have you ever landed at National Airport in Washington, D,C.? When landing from the north, planes fly directly above the Potomac River until they hit the runway. This means they pass within a few blocks of the Pentagon. The warning time would have been about 4 seconds from the time a plane left the normal flight path. It's okay to hate Bush, but try to exercise some reason! John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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In article .net,
says... "bb" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 18:10:02 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: You're a fool. An assassination threat was made on the President's life the same day 4 planes were hijacked, and flown into the WTC, and a building in close proximity to the President's residence. One of the resident Bush cheerleaders, John H, claimed "Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme." Bush is commander in Chief, but in a very dark day for this nation, he turned into commander in Chicken. John H's claims about how Bush acted are outlandish. So you say it's worse if the victims say it's worse? Ok, then let's apply your logic and apply it to what these "victims" have to say: http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm You want to use a lunatic right wing fringe group web site to back up your argument? You may buy into it Nobbie, but the public isn't. Bush has used 9/11 shamelessly to prop up his failed administration and it looks like the citizens of this country are getting a little tired of it. Let's just see the way enlisted men and veterans vote in November... Well, since most of the troops who've gone to war in Iraq are not "enlisted men and veterans" I'd venture a guess that Bush will lose big time among active troops. Second, I'd also venture a guess that veterans would probably cotton to Kerry before Bush. Kerry went to war and fought gallantly while Bush enjoyed his exclusive status as a political scion. I expect most veterans can feel that in their bones. |
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In no way do I attempt to diminish the actions of the passengers. But
the question remains WHERE WAS OUR MILITARY? We were a nation under attack, and not 1 plane was taken out by those assigned the job! Charles wrote: Jim wrote: Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out That plane that went down due to the heroic actions of those on board, who understood what was happening, is nothing more than knife in your hand to attack others. How pathetic is that. How contemptible you are. You'll never rise to level of those on board that plane who gave their lives for the good of others. Yours is a banal horizon, the installed in power of some political double-talker who has beguiled you. -- Charlie |
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And in all cases radio contact with the planes was turned off.
Passengers with cell phones were talking from the PA plane and describing what was happening. The FAA ordered ALL planes grounded -- these 4 did not respond. IT doesn't take a genius. John H wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 12:50:31 -0500, Jim wrote: John H wrote: Bush did a superb job of providing leadership to the country during a time when panic could have reigned supreme. Ummm -- seems to me that The president and VP ran and hid while this was going on. There was something like 20 min between tower 1 and tower 2 being hit. It was over an hour before the Pentagon was hit, yet no air defense was prepared. The plane that went down in PA was tracked for some time, yet not taken out All in all I'd say the presidents' actions on 9/11 are nothing to brag about Jim, we had not normally been keeping an air defense battery around the twin towers or the Pentagon. The closest air defense we had was at Fort Belvoir, VA. That's about an hour from the Pentagon on a good day, assuming the troops were loaded and ready to go. We had not been keeping F-16's on the ready rack at Andrews AFB either. Have you ever landed at National Airport in Washington, D,C.? When landing from the north, planes fly directly above the Potomac River until they hit the runway. This means they pass within a few blocks of the Pentagon. The warning time would have been about 4 seconds from the time a plane left the normal flight path. It's okay to hate Bush, but try to exercise some reason! John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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Well, since most of the troops who've gone to war in Iraq are not
"enlisted men and veterans" I'd venture a guess that Bush will lose big time among active troops. Second, I'd also venture a guess that veterans would probably cotton to Kerry before Bush. Kerry went to war and fought gallantly while Bush enjoyed his exclusive status as a political scion. I expect most veterans can feel that in their bones. NOT THIS VETERAN!!!!!!!! I am absolutely 100%,dyed-in-the-wool, Pro-Bush, all the way!!!!! You want to talk to two of my brothers-in-law? They were over in Vietnam and fought, survived, and came home. There were countless stories going around among all the services. I can tell you this... Kerry is *DESPISED* by Vietnam vets!! Like I told good ol' Harry... Kerry will loose, and Bush will be in for a 2nd term. Then, the "queen bee" Hil-LIAR-y Clinton will make a run for POTUS in '08. Butch Ammon |
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Well, since most of the troops who've gone to war in Iraq are not
"enlisted men and veterans" I'd venture a guess that Bush will lose big time among active troops. 70% of the troops are enlisted and when the come back from Iraq they are veterans. Second, I'd also venture a guess that veterans would probably cotton to Kerry before Bush. Kerry went to war and fought gallantly while Bush enjoyed his exclusive status as a political scion. Why would veterans "cotton" to Kerry? I expect most veterans can feel that in their bones. Huh? |
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"John H" wrote in message
... Jim, we had not normally been keeping an air defense battery around the twin towers or the Pentagon. The closest air defense we had was at Fort Belvoir, VA. That's about an hour from the Pentagon on a good day, assuming the troops were loaded and ready to go. We had not been keeping F-16's on the ready rack at Andrews AFB either. Have you ever landed at National Airport in Washington, D,C.? When landing from the north, planes fly directly above the Potomac River until they hit the runway. This means they pass within a few blocks of the Pentagon. The warning time would have been about 4 seconds from the time a plane left the normal flight path. It's okay to hate Bush, but try to exercise some reason! John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! I may be wrong, but I believe we still have an ANG base on Long Island. A path straight north would intercept a plane about halfway between Boston and Manhattan. |
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"Jim--" wrote in message
... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim-- wrote: "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:06:15 -0500, DSK wrote: Please also note that Republicans mostly disliked FDR, and the right-wing branch of the GOP actively hated and undermined him, and spread the most awful rumors they could think of. Some were outright Nazi sympathizers. Don't forget the attempted coup against FDR. http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html It is a vast right wing conspiracy. We have secret meetings every night. We even have a secret handshake and special decoder rings. I do not believe I have every read a conservative here stating he wished to kill Clinton. I have, however, read about wishes to kill Bush by a couple of loony lefties here, including the clown prince Krause. Uh, sorry, crap-for-brains, but all I wish for Bush is a speedy retirement this fall, and perhaps, if we're lucky, a tar and feathering of the idiot as he leaves town. Sorry Krazy Krause but you cannot deny the death wishes you made on our President, along with a couple of other crazies from your lefty loony crowd. Actually, the most violent wish for Bush that I've seen in this NG came from me. I wished him only a bullet in the lower leg. I did not wish for his death. Rather, I wanted to hear his comments on TV as he continued to reinvent the English language: "I was visitin' some folks...some seniors at an elementary school and as I disembarked the school, I was bulletated by some fella who wasn't quite as god-fearin' as my families & me. But, god will forgive him, and damn the ice cream's good here in this here clinicular place." |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
... I've not deleted anything, crap-for-brains. In fact, I don't even know how one would do that, since doing so is of no interest to me. Harry, you need a translator on retainer. When someone like Jim says you deleted your old posts, it means he's unable to figure out how to find them with a google search. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:raL1c.4540
Surely you don't believe that Bush's presence was any benefit to the country in the minutes, days and months after 9/11, do you? If he'd perished in flames, better men would've stepped up. Matter of fact, Rudy's popularity rating were far higher than Bush's. Wow! How can a, a, ... citizen make such a response? Do you think POTUS presence (regardless of politics)is not required during an attack on the US mainland? Can you imagine the state of the country at this point if POTUS had been killed? (POTUS didn't go to DC because it(he) was deemed a probable target). Do you think the "bad guys" would not have kept up the attack? I fear for my country. |
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Butch Ammon wrote:
Well, since most of the troops who've gone to war in Iraq are not "enlisted men and veterans" I'd venture a guess that Bush will lose big time among active troops. Second, I'd also venture a guess that veterans would probably cotton to Kerry before Bush. Kerry went to war and fought gallantly while Bush enjoyed his exclusive status as a political scion. I expect most veterans can feel that in their bones. NOT THIS VETERAN!!!!!!!! I am absolutely 100%,dyed-in-the-wool, Pro-Bush, all the way!!!!! Rather mindless of you. You want to talk to two of my brothers-in-law? They were over in Vietnam and fought, survived, and came home. There were countless stories going around among all the services. I can tell you this... Kerry is *DESPISED* by Vietnam vets!! Yeah, especially the thousands of them who support his candidacy. |
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