And Bill Clinton was in touch? With his gays in the military and national
health care plants (ala' Hillary).

The fact that Clinton received some sexual favors from Ms. Lewinsky
apparently helped him to perform his job quite well,

You think that the whole resulting scandal and perjury/impeachment trial
"helped" Clinton to perform his job well?

Are you feeling okay? You might be coming down with something.
Think about what you are saying.

I feel great, albeit a bit tired today. I thought about what I said.
I vaguely remember the prime minister of Israel and Arafat shaking
hands during Clinton's presidency, and

Bill Clinton's team transitioned the facts about Al-Qaeda to Bush's
team, where the administration in it's infinite wisdom began Operation
Ignore. Operation Ignore was in full swing until the eventful day of
September 11, 2001. The administration realized that Operation Ignore
was not successful, then proceeded with the successful campaign of
Operation Freedom to neutralize Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Very
successful campaign indeed (considering the minds surrounding Bush, my
cat could have run it with similar success). This moment of triumph
was followed with another phase of Operation Ignore in Afghanistan,
very similar to the one conducted by the CIA following the opposition
to the Soviet Union. Warlords and the Taliban bought their time, and
now control all of Afghanistan sans Kabul in their own Operation Haha.
However, during this Operation Haha, another operation was in place
that required our immediate attention. Operation Imperialism and
Operation "steal their oil because the world is running out" began
shortly after...the target...well, ya know...


You are talking about just the act itself. But what kind of leader
and person in a position of such great power would jeopardize
their office and career (not to mention their family)? A very short-sighted
one perhaps? One in which their libido in the short-term is much more
important than the health and welfare of their country/constituents in the
long.

What kind of leadership did the American people get from
this dishonorable scandalized man while he was tied up and busy with
lawyer, courts, interrogatories and the like?

Scandals and Bush are the closest of friends. Bush has been a little
smarter by running a much more secretive presidency. Most articles
(even the right winged Economist magazine) claim their administration
is one of the most secretive ever, even outside military operations.


On-the-job sexual solicitation of subordinates (and manipulation) is not
ethical or moral behavior that is fitting for any company or corporation
in America let alone the Oval Office. If you don't get this then you
are beyond help.

My supervisor just got promoted by the actively republican CEO of a
regional health care company after the weekend he proposed to the
CEO's daughter. Don't know which situation is worse to tell you the
truth, as many people strive to achieve his position for 20 years (and
he's 25).


One thing for sure though Clinton was the Houdini who produced the
impossible-- a Republican Congress. LOL

The Republican Congress is fairly good. It's the President's who's
whacked out. You assume I'm a Democrat.


Clinton also left behind a horrid ethical legacy. Clinton redrew the rules of
politics itself.. it used to be that if you got caught redhanded, you were
ashamed, and then you were gone. Not anymore! :^)

Bush proved that with scandal after scandal.



promoting peace
in the mideast instead of pandering to the religious right so firmly
trying to set the stage for Israel according to their interpretation
of Revelations. I'm ashamed to be of the same congregation as these
freaks.

And of course Bill Clinton was very effective dealing with terrorists after
the first World Trade Center attacks. His putting everything off onto the
office of the next President was a very strategic move.

The very same conservatives I hear spewing that garbage about libs not
getting it are the same individuals who cowardly speak about what
they'd like to do to their female co-worker/subordinate along with
their colleagues during a happy hour conversation, then going home to
their wives...hypocrital mofos.

I see. Liberal Democrats are all immune to this?

Both sides are guilty. Liberals think it's cool, while conservatives
tend to cower and lie.





You
gotta admit, it's a lot more interesting than running a secret society
called the presidency for the past 4 years, head up by a supposedly
moral individual taking *way* too many vacations, skipping out on
National Guard service, insighting nationalistic, but mistaken for
patriotic, thoughts.



Gore "skipped out" of his tour of duty over in Vietnam. How come you
and others of your ilk never mention that fact?

What by the way are your military credentials or accomplishments?

Gore skipped out in Vietnam. There, I mentioned it. Bush skipped out
of service with the Guard in Texas. Which do you think is more
cowardly and unpatriotic?

Leaving one's fellow men behind in 'Nam. It took a lot more guts to fly
a jet than to be a Thai-stick smoking Remington raider eating ice cream
far from enemy lines because of daddy's suction...


Debatable comparison.



My military accomplishments mean nothing.

Sure it does.

No, it doesn't


Never served.

It figures but you are calling implying or calling others cowards for
"skipping out"?

I didn't need to skip out. The draft is not in effect.


Proud of
being a civilian. Bush should say the same. There was nothing wrong
with doing Coke and drinking a lot. He should admit that too.

How do you know that he used cocaine? The evidence isn't there like
it was for Clinton and Gore as far as drug use. Please point me to the
appropriate DejaNews files showing your harping on these points back
in the Clinton era? Clinton didn't exactly admit to using marijuana with
his famous "but I didn't inhale" line. Nor did he admit to having a "nose
like a vacuum cleaner" for coke (but his half-brother readily admitted it.

Bush used cocaine because he doesn't want to talk about it. Court of
public opinion requires full statement of your actions, or you are
considered guilty. Pleading the 5th is not a proper response in this
particular court. Doesn't matter. It's a moot point, because the
character issue doesn't decide elections. Perhaps primaries, but
certainly not general elections.


People
would have a lot more respect for him (of course, he's lose out on a
lot of hypocritical conversative votes too)

IYO

Media giants like Howard Stern say so, so it's almost as good as fact.
Hundreds of thousands of swing voters in swing states follow exactly
what he tells others to do. Ask Christie Whitman how important
someone like him is to the swing voters. She said, without HS, she
would not have been governor. And she doesn't even like him!