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thunder March 4th 04 12:26 PM

What $100 Billion Buys...
 
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 23:07:18 +0000, Henry Blackmoore wrote:


Did Clinton disarm Iraq after Feb 17th 1998 or before??

It doesn't appear that anybody (but you) knew about Clinton disarming Iraq
including other high-ranking Democrats.


Hey, I didn't know it at the time, but with the clarity of hindsight,
Clinton did a great job ridding Iraq of those pesky WMDs. Again, if our
present President was aware of the great job Clinton did, we could have
saved a couple of hundred billion dollars and 500 American soldier's lives.

John E. Jaku-Hing March 4th 04 02:28 PM

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And Bill Clinton was in touch? With his gays in the military and national
health care plants (ala' Hillary).

The fact that Clinton received some sexual favors from Ms. Lewinsky
apparently helped him to perform his job quite well,


You think that the whole resulting scandal and perjury/impeachment trial
"helped" Clinton to perform his job well?

Are you feeling okay? You might be coming down with something.
Think about what you are saying.


I feel great, albeit a bit tired today. I thought about what I said.
I vaguely remember the prime minister of Israel and Arafat shaking
hands during Clinton's presidency, and

Bill Clinton's team transitioned the facts about Al-Qaeda to Bush's
team, where the administration in it's infinite wisdom began Operation
Ignore. Operation Ignore was in full swing until the eventful day of
September 11, 2001. The administration realized that Operation Ignore
was not successful, then proceeded with the successful campaign of
Operation Freedom to neutralize Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Very
successful campaign indeed (considering the minds surrounding Bush, my
cat could have run it with similar success). This moment of triumph
was followed with another phase of Operation Ignore in Afghanistan,
very similar to the one conducted by the CIA following the opposition
to the Soviet Union. Warlords and the Taliban bought their time, and
now control all of Afghanistan sans Kabul in their own Operation Haha.
However, during this Operation Haha, another operation was in place
that required our immediate attention. Operation Imperialism and
Operation "steal their oil because the world is running out" began
shortly after...the target...well, ya know...


You are talking about just the act itself. But what kind of leader
and person in a position of such great power would jeopardize
their office and career (not to mention their family)? A very short-sighted
one perhaps? One in which their libido in the short-term is much more
important than the health and welfare of their country/constituents in the
long.

What kind of leadership did the American people get from
this dishonorable scandalized man while he was tied up and busy with
lawyer, courts, interrogatories and the like?


Scandals and Bush are the closest of friends. Bush has been a little
smarter by running a much more secretive presidency. Most articles
(even the right winged Economist magazine) claim their administration
is one of the most secretive ever, even outside military operations.


On-the-job sexual solicitation of subordinates (and manipulation) is not
ethical or moral behavior that is fitting for any company or corporation
in America let alone the Oval Office. If you don't get this then you
are beyond help.


My supervisor just got promoted by the actively republican CEO of a
regional health care company after the weekend he proposed to the
CEO's daughter. Don't know which situation is worse to tell you the
truth, as many people strive to achieve his position for 20 years (and
he's 25).


One thing for sure though Clinton was the Houdini who produced the
impossible-- a Republican Congress. LOL


The Republican Congress is fairly good. It's the President's who's
whacked out. You assume I'm a Democrat.


Clinton also left behind a horrid ethical legacy. Clinton redrew the rules of
politics itself.. it used to be that if you got caught redhanded, you were
ashamed, and then you were gone. Not anymore! :^)


Bush proved that with scandal after scandal.



promoting peace
in the mideast instead of pandering to the religious right so firmly
trying to set the stage for Israel according to their interpretation
of Revelations. I'm ashamed to be of the same congregation as these
freaks.


And of course Bill Clinton was very effective dealing with terrorists after
the first World Trade Center attacks. His putting everything off onto the
office of the next President was a very strategic move.

The very same conservatives I hear spewing that garbage about libs not
getting it are the same individuals who cowardly speak about what
they'd like to do to their female co-worker/subordinate along with
their colleagues during a happy hour conversation, then going home to
their wives...hypocrital mofos.


I see. Liberal Democrats are all immune to this?


Both sides are guilty. Liberals think it's cool, while conservatives
tend to cower and lie.





You
gotta admit, it's a lot more interesting than running a secret society
called the presidency for the past 4 years, head up by a supposedly
moral individual taking *way* too many vacations, skipping out on
National Guard service, insighting nationalistic, but mistaken for
patriotic, thoughts.




Gore "skipped out" of his tour of duty over in Vietnam. How come you
and others of your ilk never mention that fact?

What by the way are your military credentials or accomplishments?


Gore skipped out in Vietnam. There, I mentioned it. Bush skipped out
of service with the Guard in Texas. Which do you think is more
cowardly and unpatriotic?


Leaving one's fellow men behind in 'Nam. It took a lot more guts to fly
a jet than to be a Thai-stick smoking Remington raider eating ice cream
far from enemy lines because of daddy's suction...


Debatable comparison.



My military accomplishments mean nothing.


Sure it does.


No, it doesn't


Never served.


It figures but you are calling implying or calling others cowards for
"skipping out"?


I didn't need to skip out. The draft is not in effect.


Proud of
being a civilian. Bush should say the same. There was nothing wrong
with doing Coke and drinking a lot. He should admit that too.


How do you know that he used cocaine? The evidence isn't there like
it was for Clinton and Gore as far as drug use. Please point me to the
appropriate DejaNews files showing your harping on these points back
in the Clinton era? Clinton didn't exactly admit to using marijuana with
his famous "but I didn't inhale" line. Nor did he admit to having a "nose
like a vacuum cleaner" for coke (but his half-brother readily admitted it.


Bush used cocaine because he doesn't want to talk about it. Court of
public opinion requires full statement of your actions, or you are
considered guilty. Pleading the 5th is not a proper response in this
particular court. Doesn't matter. It's a moot point, because the
character issue doesn't decide elections. Perhaps primaries, but
certainly not general elections.


People
would have a lot more respect for him (of course, he's lose out on a
lot of hypocritical conversative votes too)


IYO


Media giants like Howard Stern say so, so it's almost as good as fact.
Hundreds of thousands of swing voters in swing states follow exactly
what he tells others to do. Ask Christie Whitman how important
someone like him is to the swing voters. She said, without HS, she
would not have been governor. And she doesn't even like him!

Henry Blackmoore March 4th 04 04:03 PM

What $100 Billion Buys...
 
In article , jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

The office of the President is essentially a meaningless figurehead
position. The true minds and influential players are his/her cabinet.
I don't fault Bush directly for his failed policies. Rumsfeld, Rice,
Wolfowitz, Ashcroft etc break down the president to make these
decisions. Bush isn't evil or dangerous...he's just a pompous fool
who's out of touch with the ordinary American.

The fact that Clinton received some sexual favors from Ms. Lewinsky
apparently helped him to perform his job quite well, promoting peace
in the mideast instead of pandering to the religious right so firmly
trying to set the stage for Israel according to their interpretation
of Revelations. I'm ashamed to be of the same congregation as these
freaks.

The very same conservatives I hear spewing that garbage about libs not
getting it are the same individuals who cowardly speak about what
they'd like to do to their female co-worker/subordinate along with
their colleagues during a happy hour conversation, then going home to
their wives...hypocrital mofos.


You help restore my "faith" that Americans are still capable of common
sense.


Faith? And from an athiest??


jps


Henry Blackmoore March 4th 04 04:04 PM

What $100 Billion Buys...
 
In article , thunder wrote:

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 23:07:18 +0000, Henry Blackmoore wrote:


Did Clinton disarm Iraq after Feb 17th 1998 or before??

It doesn't appear that anybody (but you) knew about Clinton disarming Iraq
including other high-ranking Democrats.


Hey, I didn't know it at the time, but with the clarity of hindsight,
Clinton did a great job ridding Iraq of those pesky WMDs. Again, if our
present President was aware of the great job Clinton did, we could have
saved a couple of hundred billion dollars and 500 American soldier's lives.


Clinton wasn't even "aware of the great job Clinton did".

Get real..



plantsman March 4th 04 04:06 PM

What $100 Billion Buys...
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...


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The situation at Eastman Chemical Co. may be sort of unique among large
companies. This huge plant, one of the largest chemical plant sites in

the world, was originally a division of Eastman Kodak.

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Does Eastman Chemical make the chemicals that are used for film
processing...like developing x-rays, etc? If that's the case, then

they're
just a victim of new technology. The world is going digital. I see it
first hand in the health fields. We haven't developed a radiograph in our
office in over 4 years.

Recently, Kodak made the decision not to spend any more R&D money on film
technology. In the dental field, they just acquired Practiceworks, Inc.

and
Trophy Radiologie...two companies that played a large role in the
obsolescence of dental film. They've accepted the fact that digital has
taken over. I suspect the Eastman plant is just a victim of that
technology.

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/pres...30721-01.shtml


====================================

No, Eastman Chemical Co. doesn't make photographic chemicals. Many of their
products are used in the plastics industry. They are the world's largest
producer of PET plastics that soft drinks are packaged in. They also make a
very large percentage of the cigarette filters produced. They developed a
very large chemicals-from-coal plant (coal gasification) that produces
acetic anhydride/acetic acid among other things, very important feedstocks
for the petrochemical industry. Also chemical for food preservatives and
many, many other chemicals. The plant site is over 1,000 acres and produces
all of
it's electrical needs through several huge fossil plants. It has many miles
of private road, large railroad system, fire & rescue departments, medical
facilities, movie theatres and a first rate concert hall. The whole plant
is located right in the edge of the main part of the city. Folks seeing it
for the first time at night remark that it looks like a very large city in
itself. The daylight view convinces them. See: www.eastman.com

David S.




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