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Harry Krause wrote: Where are the videos kept of the civilian targets hit by "accident"? Do the AF flacks release those, too? Have you deleted from google the post you made after 9-11 where you advocated carpet bombing Afghanistan? Seems you cared not a wit who was killed. Oh, right, your morality (or lack of it) is politically driven by the highest bidder. -- Charlie |
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote:
John H wrote: The post to which you responded had absolutely nothing to do with rules of engagement. Other than being about 'rules of engagement' and alleged violations of same, yeah. Before you jump and call names, read the posts, if you please. I'm not calling names, just stating facts. And your posts have become just more predictable boring fact-free BushCo cheerleading. At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK Please point to some (or one) of my cheerleading posts. I don't recall ever 'cheerleading'. I may have pointed out just how fallacious some of the anti-Bush tripe is, but that's not cheerleading. When someone says that American soldiers purposely target innocent women and children and villages for bombing in Iraq, I will present my feelings on the subject. If you call this cheerleading, then I assume that you consider any post which is not 'anti-Bush' a cheerleading post. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote:
At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. bb |
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John H wrote:
Please point to some (or one) of my cheerleading posts Any post where you "discuss" Bush's policies regarding the environment, the economy, his lapse in National Guard service, the Middle East, etc etc. Unlike Nobby, who occasionally shows a sense of humor (and who is secretly a Socialist agitator), you are totally predictable and boring. What's sad is that you are a teacher (or claim to be one) and are 99% clueless. If Rove & Cheney decided to make President Bush announce that water flowed up hill, you'd be pushing for a front row seat in the chorus angrily denouncing all the ignorant liberals who said it flowed down hill. DSK |
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 14:49:51 -0500, DSK wrote:
John H wrote: Please point to some (or one) of my cheerleading posts Any post where you "discuss" Bush's policies regarding the environment, the economy, his lapse in National Guard service, the Middle East, etc etc. Unlike Nobby, who occasionally shows a sense of humor (and who is secretly a Socialist agitator), you are totally predictable and boring. What's sad is that you are a teacher (or claim to be one) and are 99% clueless. If Rove & Cheney decided to make President Bush announce that water flowed up hill, you'd be pushing for a front row seat in the chorus angrily denouncing all the ignorant liberals who said it flowed down hill. DSK Well, my goodness. Thank God for kill files! Add me to yours soonest. Actually, refuting the *arguments* presented by some of the folks on the NG has nothing to do with my politics. Much of the bull**** posted is simply that. That I may argue against the logic doesn't mean I'm 'cheerleading' for Bush. Nevertheless, kill files are easy to use, the author is "John H". Go for it. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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John H wrote:
Actually, refuting the *arguments* presented by some of the folks on the NG has nothing to do with my politics. Much of the bull**** posted is simply that. And the fact that you don't "refute" anything, but simply argue tirelessly and sieze on any excuse or outright lie is 1- why you are a cheerleader and 2- why I say you are clueless. Your current discussion with Doug Kanter on environmental policy is a case in point. Or the Iraq situation... you started out saying you "had reservations" and ended up thumping the tub for Bush, capping it all with saying our troops should not follow any rules of engagement or the Geneva Conventions. Yeah, let's just kill any random Iraqi, or better yet all of 'em... brilliant military policy.... which is why I called you a pin head. Nevertheless, kill files are easy to use, the author is "John H". Go for it. I don't kill file anybody. I just don't read posts I'm not interested in.... by subject or author. Bye now. I'm going to try and increase my percentage of boating related posts here. Doug King |
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:20:36 -0500, DSK wrote:
John H wrote: Actually, refuting the *arguments* presented by some of the folks on the NG has nothing to do with my politics. Much of the bull**** posted is simply that. And the fact that you don't "refute" anything, but simply argue tirelessly and sieze on any excuse or outright lie is 1- why you are a cheerleader and 2- why I say you are clueless. Your current discussion with Doug Kanter on environmental policy is a case in point. Or the Iraq situation... you started out saying you "had reservations" and ended up thumping the tub for Bush, capping it all with saying our troops should not follow any rules of engagement or the Geneva Conventions. Yeah, let's just kill any random Iraqi, or better yet all of 'em... brilliant military policy.... which is why I called you a pin head. Nevertheless, kill files are easy to use, the author is "John H". Go for it. I don't kill file anybody. I just don't read posts I'm not interested in.... by subject or author. Bye now. I'm going to try and increase my percentage of boating related posts here. Doug King I said that our troops shouldn't follow rules of engagement? Show me! I commented that showing Saddam on TV was not high on my list of bothersome things (or words to that effect). I also said I didn't give a rats ass, a phrase which had just been used by NOYB. The fact that we had both used that phrase prompted my 'great minds' comment. If you'll recall, I was arguing a statement alleging that American soldiers had targetted and killed innocent civilians. I've probably had more experience with rules of engagement than most folks here. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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"DSK" wrote in message ... If Rove & Cheney decided to make President Bush announce that water flowed up hill Water *does* flow uphill to money. |
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"bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! |
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John H wrote:
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: John H wrote: The post to which you responded had absolutely nothing to do with rules of engagement. Other than being about 'rules of engagement' and alleged violations of same, yeah. Before you jump and call names, read the posts, if you please. I'm not calling names, just stating facts. And your posts have become just more predictable boring fact-free BushCo cheerleading. At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK Please point to some (or one) of my cheerleading posts. I don't recall ever 'cheerleading'. I may have pointed out just how fallacious some of the anti-Bush tripe is, but that's not cheerleading. When someone says that American soldiers purposely target innocent women and children and villages for bombing in Iraq, I will present my feelings on the subject. If you call this cheerleading, then I assume that you consider any post which is not 'anti-Bush' a cheerleading post. John H Do you ever have anything other than simple-minded thoughts, John? |
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"bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. Most MDs are pill pushers, but DD's are messing with your mouth. You use your mouth for more purposes than anyother part of your body and I find it hard to believe that you would let just anybody do anything to it. Bert |
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Bert Robbins wrote:
Most MDs are pill pushers, but DD's are messing with your mouth. You use your mouth for more purposes than anyother part of your body and I find it hard to believe that you would let just anybody do anything to it. Bert What do you do for a living, Bertie? |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: Most MDs are pill pushers, but DD's are messing with your mouth. You use your mouth for more purposes than anyother part of your body and I find it hard to believe that you would let just anybody do anything to it. Bert What do you do for a living, Bertie? I use my brain and not my mouth to sustain my life style. Bert |
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Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: Most MDs are pill pushers, but DD's are messing with your mouth. You use your mouth for more purposes than anyother part of your body and I find it hard to believe that you would let just anybody do anything to it. Bert What do you do for a living, Bertie? I use my brain and not my mouth to sustain my life style. Bert What's the monkey do when you are not turning the crank? |
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"bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! Costa Rica is the hot spot for dental care in the world. First rate, about 10% what the U.S. money hungry dentists are charging. I'd bet that the Costa Rican dentist might have some compassion for their patients well-being, also, not just their patient's money. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! Costa Rica is the hot spot for dental care in the world. First rate, about 10% what the U.S. money hungry dentists are charging. I'd bet that the Costa Rican dentist might have some compassion for their patients well-being, also, not just their patient's money. I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? |
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:02:39 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: John H wrote: On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: John H wrote: The post to which you responded had absolutely nothing to do with rules of engagement. Other than being about 'rules of engagement' and alleged violations of same, yeah. Before you jump and call names, read the posts, if you please. I'm not calling names, just stating facts. And your posts have become just more predictable boring fact-free BushCo cheerleading. At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK Please point to some (or one) of my cheerleading posts. I don't recall ever 'cheerleading'. I may have pointed out just how fallacious some of the anti-Bush tripe is, but that's not cheerleading. When someone says that American soldiers purposely target innocent women and children and villages for bombing in Iraq, I will present my feelings on the subject. If you call this cheerleading, then I assume that you consider any post which is not 'anti-Bush' a cheerleading post. John H Do you ever have anything other than simple-minded thoughts, John? I will never approach your level of acumen and intellectual integrity, Harry. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! Costa Rica is the hot spot for dental care in the world. First rate, about 10% what the U.S. money hungry dentists are charging. I used a lab about 3 years ago that outsourced its crowns to Costa Rica. The cost of the crowns were half what other labs charged. The first crown I got back was beautiful...and the fit was perfect. The next one I got from them fit so poorly, I thought they sent me a crown meant for another patient. I sent it back, and got one back that didn't fit at all. The lab apologized and offered to make my next crown at no charge if I'd give them another chance. That time, they lost the crown...and then found it a week later. I went to put it in, and sure enough, it fit like socks on a rooster. When I asked them how the first crown could have been done so well, and the other two were below even the lowest standard of quality, this is what they told me: "25% of our crowns are done in the US...and the other 75% are sent to Costa Rica. The first one was done at our lab in the US." I told 'em I wanted 'em all done in the US, and they told me the rate would be different. Their response: "You're on the pot luck plan if you want the lower fee. Although *some* crowns may be made here, most will go to Costa Rica." That lab went out of business 2 years ago. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message hlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! Costa Rica is the hot spot for dental care in the world. First rate, about 10% what the U.S. money hungry dentists are charging. I'd bet that the Costa Rican dentist might have some compassion for their patients well-being, also, not just their patient's money. I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? I had a patient tell me that they had heard that they could get an implant done in Costa Rica for $300. Here, it costs $3000. basskisser must be have read the same Reader's Digest article... FWIW--There are several implant manufacturers in the World. The same companies sell the Costa Ricans the same implants that they sell to us. The fees for the implant, retaining screws, healing cap, healing collar, impression post, analog, pre-fab abutment, and the crown total about $800. That doesn't include the doctor time needed to place the implant, uncover the implant after healing, take the crown impression, make the temporary, and seat the crown. There is no way you can get an implant placed for $500 less than the cost of the parts and pieces alone. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Calif Bill" wrote in message hlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! Costa Rica is the hot spot for dental care in the world. First rate, about 10% what the U.S. money hungry dentists are charging. I'd bet that the Costa Rican dentist might have some compassion for their patients well-being, also, not just their patient's money. I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? I had a patient tell me that they had heard that they could get an implant done in Costa Rica for $300. Here, it costs $3000. basskisser must be have read the same Reader's Digest article... FWIW--There are several implant manufacturers in the World. The same companies sell the Costa Ricans the same implants that they sell to us. The fees for the implant, retaining screws, healing cap, healing collar, impression post, analog, pre-fab abutment, and the crown total about $800. That doesn't include the doctor time needed to place the implant, uncover the implant after healing, take the crown impression, make the temporary, and seat the crown. There is no way you can get an implant placed for $500 less than the cost of the parts and pieces alone. Volume, they make up for it in volume. :) |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 22:22:32 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message thlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! Costa Rica is the hot spot for dental care in the world. First rate, about 10% what the U.S. money hungry dentists are charging. I'd bet that the Costa Rican dentist might have some compassion for their patients well-being, also, not just their patient's money. I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? I had a patient tell me that they had heard that they could get an implant done in Costa Rica for $300. Here, it costs $3000. basskisser must be have read the same Reader's Digest article... FWIW--There are several implant manufacturers in the World. The same companies sell the Costa Ricans the same implants that they sell to us. The fees for the implant, retaining screws, healing cap, healing collar, impression post, analog, pre-fab abutment, and the crown total about $800. That doesn't include the doctor time needed to place the implant, uncover the implant after healing, take the crown impression, make the temporary, and seat the crown. There is no way you can get an implant placed for $500 less than the cost of the parts and pieces alone. Damn, I paid over $2200 each for mine. Hell, I could have flown to Florida, gone fishing, got the implants, gone fishing, and still have enough money left for another couple fishing trips to Florida! Sure is nice being able to eat though. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 22:22:32 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message thlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! Costa Rica is the hot spot for dental care in the world. First rate, about 10% what the U.S. money hungry dentists are charging. I'd bet that the Costa Rican dentist might have some compassion for their patients well-being, also, not just their patient's money. I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? I had a patient tell me that they had heard that they could get an implant done in Costa Rica for $300. Here, it costs $3000. basskisser must be have read the same Reader's Digest article... FWIW--There are several implant manufacturers in the World. The same companies sell the Costa Ricans the same implants that they sell to us. The fees for the implant, retaining screws, healing cap, healing collar, impression post, analog, pre-fab abutment, and the crown total about $800. That doesn't include the doctor time needed to place the implant, uncover the implant after healing, take the crown impression, make the temporary, and seat the crown. There is no way you can get an implant placed for $500 less than the cost of the parts and pieces alone. Damn, I paid over $2200 each for mine. They're 3 grand down here. The $800 is just for the parts and pieces. The extra $2200 is for knowing where to put 'em and knowing how to put 'em there. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! Costa Rica is the hot spot for dental care in the world. First rate, about 10% what the U.S. money hungry dentists are charging. I used a lab about 3 years ago that outsourced its crowns to Costa Rica. The cost of the crowns were half what other labs charged. The first crown I got back was beautiful...and the fit was perfect. The next one I got from them fit so poorly, I thought they sent me a crown meant for another patient. I sent it back, and got one back that didn't fit at all. The lab apologized and offered to make my next crown at no charge if I'd give them another chance. That time, they lost the crown...and then found it a week later. I went to put it in, and sure enough, it fit like socks on a rooster. When I asked them how the first crown could have been done so well, and the other two were below even the lowest standard of quality, this is what they told me: "25% of our crowns are done in the US...and the other 75% are sent to Costa Rica. The first one was done at our lab in the US." I told 'em I wanted 'em all done in the US, and they told me the rate would be different. Their response: "You're on the pot luck plan if you want the lower fee. Although *some* crowns may be made here, most will go to Costa Rica." That lab went out of business 2 years ago. Horse****. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message thlink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! Costa Rica is the hot spot for dental care in the world. First rate, about 10% what the U.S. money hungry dentists are charging. I'd bet that the Costa Rican dentist might have some compassion for their patients well-being, also, not just their patient's money. I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? You can doubt all you want, but fact is fact. But then again, I know that you care little about fact, but hold what stupid thoughts come out of your head in great regard. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784
I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On 4 Mar 2004 06:13:47 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm I've no doubt that the Costa Rican Health Tourism Corporation is painting a most accurate description of the facts! John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! I am researching going on vacation to CR. Some of the prices are scary. Especially after traveling part of Spain 2 years ago. Bill |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "bb" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 07:28:41 -0500, DSK wrote: At this point I read very few of yours or Nobby's posts. DSK You watch how NOYB changes his tune if people start taking the trek to Mexico for cheap dental care along with a vacation. You think Mexican water can make you sick? Try putting Mexican dental instruments in your mouth! There are people who go to Mexico for cheap dental care now. I know, because I've seen them here after-the-fact to correct the atrocities committed in their mouths. Seems he doesn't have any problem with computer tech jobs going offshore, we'll see how it is with offshore medical care. Course, by the time it starts happening, it will be to late. Lets see Mr High and mighty squeal when he's competing with Mexican dentists. I don't do gold jacket crowns on front teeth...so I won't have many Mexican competitors. However, I do have a wealthy Mexican man and his wife who have done a little over $30,000 in dentistry with me. They would fly in almost weekly from Cancun for their appointments. The wife had already completed nearly that much work in her mouth while in Mexico. Surprisingly, the work was first-rate...but the Mexican dentist's fees were higher than mine! Costa Rica is the hot spot for dental care in the world. First rate, about 10% what the U.S. money hungry dentists are charging. I used a lab about 3 years ago that outsourced its crowns to Costa Rica. The cost of the crowns were half what other labs charged. The first crown I got back was beautiful...and the fit was perfect. The next one I got from them fit so poorly, I thought they sent me a crown meant for another patient. I sent it back, and got one back that didn't fit at all. The lab apologized and offered to make my next crown at no charge if I'd give them another chance. That time, they lost the crown...and then found it a week later. I went to put it in, and sure enough, it fit like socks on a rooster. When I asked them how the first crown could have been done so well, and the other two were below even the lowest standard of quality, this is what they told me: "25% of our crowns are done in the US...and the other 75% are sent to Costa Rica. The first one was done at our lab in the US." I told 'em I wanted 'em all done in the US, and they told me the rate would be different. Their response: "You're on the pot luck plan if you want the lower fee. Although *some* crowns may be made here, most will go to Costa Rica." That lab went out of business 2 years ago. Horse****. Boy it seemed like 2 years ago. However, I did some checking, and it turns out that they went out of business in September 2000. I opened in Sept. 1999...so they were around for less than 1 year! http://tinyurl.com/2h636 |
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"basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. |
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"basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure. |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure. The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift." John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure. The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift." John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate? |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 00:44:26 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. Well, like it or not, I think offshore medical and dental care could become a big thing in the future. Maybe, as you say, the quality is hit and miss right now. It would appear there's a large market potential for marketing cheaper medical and dental services by our close neighbors. Certainly one such as yourself, who's relatively early in a career, has a lot to be concerned about. Auto and steel workers may not be the only ones who's life is adversely affected by cheap foreign labor. bb |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. Sterngold. I don't know anybody that uses them, however. The posts were something like $125 each...titanium. They're actually even cheaper than that. About $80-90. Add another $20 for the impression post, $16 for the analog, $75 for the UCLA coping, $25 for the healing abutment, $75 for the lab-fabricated temporary, $50 for the cost of the gold (used with the UCLA coping), and a lab bill of about $250 for the crown and custom abutment. That's about $600...and Sterngold is the flat-out cheapest on the market. The implants my surgeons use are about 3 or 4 times as expensive...the surfaces aren't machined, but acid-etched...which gives better osseointegration. This was six or seven years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure. |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:56:46 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: John H wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure. The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift." John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate? Well, I'm not 100% sure what it is, but I'll tell you what I think it was. Maybe NOYB will jump in and elucidate my elucidation. I think there is not enough room in the mouth for the teeth to close properly when the implants, screws, caps, crowns, etc. are installed.. So room must be made by raising the upper bone in which the teeth root. This is done by placing a metal punch against the bone and literally beating it upwards with a metal hammer. Of course, you've had shots to deaden the pain (yeah, right!), so theoretically this shouldn't hurt. But it did. And for the next 24 hours my head felt as though someone were still going at it with a jackhammer, albeit a small one. And then the procedure had to be repeated on the other side of the mouth. I just couldn't wait for that appointment. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure. The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift." The procedure isn't too bad when the bone is solid and doesn't need ridge or sinus augmentation. |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 01:14:00 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. Sterngold. I don't know anybody that uses them, however. The posts were something like $125 each...titanium. They're actually even cheaper than that. About $80-90. Add another $20 for the impression post, $16 for the analog, $75 for the UCLA coping, $25 for the healing abutment, $75 for the lab-fabricated temporary, $50 for the cost of the gold (used with the UCLA coping), and a lab bill of about $250 for the crown and custom abutment. That's about $600...and Sterngold is the flat-out cheapest on the market. The implants my surgeons use are about 3 or 4 times as expensive...the surfaces aren't machined, but acid-etched...which gives better osseointegration. This was six or seven years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure. Now go back and correct what I told him about a "sinus lift." Thanks. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure. The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift." John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate? When there's not enough bone left in the maxilla (upper arch) to place an implant of sufficient length, the surgeon lifts the membrane at the floor of the sinus, and places bone grafting material (cadaver, autogenous, bovine, synthetic, etc) iunderneath the membrane in the space he/she created. This gives the surgeon enough bone thickness to place a sufficiently long implant in the area...so that it doesn't protrude into the sinus space. |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:56:46 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: John H wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure. The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift." John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! I have no idea what a sinus lift is...care to elucidate? PS. At the time I had three different dental policies, none of which would cover any of the costs associated with implants. I did get a nice tax deduction out of it though. The dentist allowed (hell, he loved it) to pay in advance so that all the expenditures were done in one year. Also, this was probably due to smoking 2-3 packs per day of cigarettes for about 39 years, and having had all the periodontal problems that go with same. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 01:14:57 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:52:06 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:Cwp1c.19784 I very much doubt the fee's are 10%. Looked at the prices in Costa Rica? Again, I know fact doesn't mean anything to you but: http://www.cocori.com/library/life/med1.htm According to your link, implants in Costa Rica cost $750-800. In the states, they cost $1200-1800. (We're talking about the implant...not the abutment, and not the crown). That means they're about 50-65%...not 10% as you claimed. My dentist and friend showed me a catalog of implant posts from some company with the word "Gold" in its name...or something like that. The posts were something like $125 each...titanium. This was six or seven years ago. I wasn't shopping, but I was curious about the procedure. The procedure is no fun, especially if they have to do a "sinus lift." The procedure isn't too bad when the bone is solid and doesn't need ridge or sinus augmentation. That's what they all say! John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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