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Jim, April 4th 05 01:30 PM

( OT ) Clinton was right
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex and
almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six months, a
small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral sex,
which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San Francisco.

Jim, April 4th 05 02:13 PM

Harry Krause wrote:
Jim, wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state. Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.

Dr. Dr. K.G. Sherlock April 4th 05 02:44 PM

Harry,
I thought you said you worked at your dad's marina and boatyard all thought
high school.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim, wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex and
almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six months, a
small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral sex,
which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids were
sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45 years ago,
when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state. Forbidden, but
openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I worked at a
family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of condoms were sold
every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the pharmacist who
owned the place if we were going to be arrested for selling rubbers, and
he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great fun,
and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.


--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




NOYB April 4th 05 03:48 PM


"Jim," wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Jim, wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex and
almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six months, a
small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral sex,
which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids were
sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45 years ago,
when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state. Forbidden, but
openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I worked at a
family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of condoms were sold
every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the pharmacist who
owned the place if we were going to be arrested for selling rubbers, and
he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the word
"sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.



NOYB April 4th 05 03:49 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim, wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

Jim, wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state. Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.



Oh, sure. Most of us got that when Clinton first brought it up. "Sex" is
intercourse. We knew that at age 13. Anything else was just fooling
around.


Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue in her
honey hole. It wasn't sex."




NOYB April 4th 05 03:50 PM


"Dr. Dr. K.G. Sherlock" wrote in message
...
Harry,
I thought you said you worked at your dad's marina and boatyard all
thought high school.


They had an on-site pharmacy (that sold bootlegged condoms).



Kevin Noble April 4th 05 03:53 PM

If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.

--
Kevin Noble
The best source for home grown.
For a clean smooth toke insist on Knoble homegrown.



"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...

"Jim," wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Jim, wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state. Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.




NOYB April 4th 05 03:56 PM


"Kevin Noble" wrote in message
...
If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.


Your family just considered it good ol' fashioned Georgia-style family
bonding between a mom and her son, right?




Just Me April 4th 05 03:56 PM

Now I understand.


"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...

"Dr. Dr. K.G. Sherlock" wrote in message
...
Harry,
I thought you said you worked at your dad's marina and boatyard all
thought high school.


They had an on-site pharmacy (that sold bootlegged condoms).





NOYB April 4th 05 05:24 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Jim, wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:


Jim, wrote:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45
years ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.
Forbidden, but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool
jobs, I worked at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads
of condoms were sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I
asked the pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be
arrested for selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.


Oh, sure. Most of us got that when Clinton first brought it up. "Sex" is
intercourse. We knew that at age 13. Anything else was just fooling
around.



Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue in
her honey hole. It wasn't sex."





"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of
marriages.


Sure it is. Sex with someone else.




NOYB April 4th 05 05:26 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...

Harry Krause wrote:

Jim, wrote:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state. Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.



Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt
any *responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.



Once again, I have always and only thought that the "sex act," as it were,
only referred to sexual intercourse.


He didn't say "sex", or "sexual intercourse". He said "sexual relations".
What person with at least half a working brain doesn't think that a BJ is a
form of sexual relations?




NOYB April 4th 05 05:32 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Jim, wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:



Jim, wrote:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie
Halpern-Felsher, associate professor of pediatrics at University of
California San Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45
years ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.
Forbidden, but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool
jobs, I worked at a family drugstore near my highschool where
boatloads of condoms were sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my
naivete, I asked the pharmacist who owned the place if we were going
to be arrested for selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or
10 years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was
NOT to get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under
what appears to be the popular definition.


Oh, sure. Most of us got that when Clinton first brought it up. "Sex"
is intercourse. We knew that at age 13. Anything else was just fooling
around.


Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue in
her honey hole. It wasn't sex."





"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of
marriages.



Sure it is. Sex with someone else.




Nope.




MAIN REASONS FOR DIVORCE 2004

- Extra-marital affair - 27%
- Family strains - 18%
- Abuse - 17%
- Mid-life crisis - 13%
- Addictions - 6%
- Workaholism - 6%


(Affairs aren't sex, though, right?)



Jim, April 4th 05 05:33 PM

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote:

"Jim," wrote in message
.. .


Harry Krause wrote:


Jim, wrote:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state. Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt
any *responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.



Once again, I have always and only thought that the "sex act," as it were,
only referred to sexual intercourse.



He didn't say "sex", or "sexual intercourse". He said "sexual relations".
What person with at least half a working brain doesn't think that a BJ is a
form of sexual relations?



See
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Mar18.html

"The sad story is that kids who are trying to preserve their technical
virginity are, in some cases, engaging in much riskier behavior," said
lead author Peter S. Bearman, a professor at Columbia's Institute for
Social and Economic Research and Policy. "From a public health point of
view, an abstinence movement that encourages no vaginal sex may
inadvertently encourage other forms of alternative sex that are at
higher risk of STDs."

NOYB April 4th 05 06:08 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


NOYB wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jim, wrote:



Harry Krause wrote:




Jim, wrote:




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral
sex and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next
six months, a small study of teens at two California schools
reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is
less risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group
than intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in
two California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about
oral sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie
Halpern-Felsher, associate professor of pediatrics at University
of California San Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most
kids were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was
about 45 years ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in
that state. Forbidden, but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first
afterschool jobs, I worked at a family drugstore near my highschool
where boatloads of condoms were sold every day, and sometimes by
me. In my naivete, I asked the pharmacist who owned the place if we
were going to be arrested for selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or
10 years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was
NOT to get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is
great fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under
what appears to be the popular definition.


Oh, sure. Most of us got that when Clinton first brought it up. "Sex"
is intercourse. We knew that at age 13. Anything else was just
fooling around.


Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue
in her honey hole. It wasn't sex."





"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of
marriages.


Sure it is. Sex with someone else.




Nope.





MAIN REASONS FOR DIVORCE 2004

- Extra-marital affair - 27%
- Family strains - 18%
- Abuse - 17%
- Mid-life crisis - 13%
- Addictions - 6%
- Workaholism - 6%


(Affairs aren't sex, though, right?)




You can do better than a "survey of UK matrimonial lawyers."


It was the quickest thing a google search returned. States don't ask the
"reason" for divorce when they collect divorce statistics, so the only
decent measure is statistics formed by polls taken of divorce attorneys.
Most of those show that infidility is the top reason for divorce.




Just Me April 4th 05 06:11 PM

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Harry,

Here is another study that lists infidelity as one of the major reasons for
divorce.

Since you know better than these "experts" what do you consider the major
reasons for divorce.



Reasons for divorce; divorce rate

What are the reasons given for divorce by the spouses? In order of
importance, women say (1) incompatibility and unhappiness, (2) husband's
alcohol, physical and verbal abuse, (3) husband's infidelity, (4)
disagreements about religion and children, (5) their own alcohol abuse, (6)
their own infidelity, and (7) their needs for independence. Men say (1) drug
abuse (wife's or his) and mental illness, (2) many differences (religion,
communication, in-laws), (3) his alcohol and physical abuse, (4) wife's
independence and infidelity, (5) incompatibility and unhappiness, (6) wife's
alcohol abuse, and (7) his infidelity (Cleek and Pearson, 1985). In general,
"emotional problems" are the most common cause of divorce; men cite "sexual
problems" three times more often than women and women cite an "affair" twice
as often as men (Janus & Janus, 1993). Quite often, people say they do not
really know why their spouse filed for divorce.

Helen Fisher, an anthropologist, has found that divorce worldwide occurs
most common in the fourth year of marriage or between ages 25 and 29. She
speculates that 4 years have been needed in human history to attract a mate,
establish a home, produce a child, and raise it until it was weaned. Humans
may have survived a few million years by changing partners with each new
child or every 4 or 5 years. She suggests it could be our genetic
inheritance.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jim, wrote:



Harry Krause wrote:




Jim, wrote:




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral
sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is
less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in
two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about
oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie
Halpern-Felsher, associate professor of pediatrics at University
of
California San Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most
kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45
years ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.
Forbidden, but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool
jobs, I worked at a family drugstore near my highschool where
boatloads of condoms were sold every day, and sometimes by me. In
my
naivete, I asked the pharmacist who owned the place if we were
going
to be arrested for selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or
10 years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was
NOT to get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is
great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under
what appears to be the popular definition.


Oh, sure. Most of us got that when Clinton first brought it up. "Sex"
is intercourse. We knew that at age 13. Anything else was just
fooling
around.


Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue
in
her honey hole. It wasn't sex."





"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of
marriages.


Sure it is. Sex with someone else.




Nope.





MAIN REASONS FOR DIVORCE 2004

- Extra-marital affair - 27%
- Family strains - 18%
- Abuse - 17%
- Mid-life crisis - 13%
- Addictions - 6%
- Workaholism - 6%


(Affairs aren't sex, though, right?)




You can do better than a "survey of UK matrimonial lawyers."


--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.






Doug Kanter April 4th 05 06:13 PM

"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.


And from the current president, they're learning that dancing is a suitable
substitute for the truth, energy policies can be made in total secrecy with
a group of unidentified cronies, and learning is unimportant and perhaps
even frowned upon. Last November, you made a clear choice to accept these
crimes. Own them and be proud of them, or shut the **** up.



NOYB April 4th 05 06:24 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt
any *responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.


And from the current president, they're learning that dancing is a
suitable substitute for the truth,


The truth is a suitable substitute for the truth. Personally, I hate
dancing...in it's physical *and* verbal forms.

energy policies can be made in total secrecy with a group of unidentified
cronies,


If a high school kid sits on an energy board, perhaps that'll matter some
day.

and learning is unimportant and perhaps even frowned upon.


Getting an undergrad degree and an MBA requires "learning". Who's frowning
upon it?

Last November, you made a clear choice to accept these crimes. Own them
and be proud of them, or shut the **** up.


Crimes? What crimes?




basskisser April 4th 05 07:08 PM


Kevin Noble wrote:
If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.

--
Kevin Noble
The best source for home grown.
For a clean smooth toke insist on Knoble homegrown.



"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...

"Jim," wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Jim, wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral

sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next

six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools

reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14=BD, also say oral sex is

less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in

two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about

oral
sex, which surprised the study's lead author, Bonnie

Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California

San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most

kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about

45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.

Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I

worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of

condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested

for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine

or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was

NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is

great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under

what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for

the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I

doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.



Of course! Low life scum that can't post anything of any relevance, and
are scared little sissies must post using someone else's identity. Grow
up.


Just Me April 4th 05 07:11 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
Infidelity is *a* top reason, but I doubt it is "the" top reason. Most
divorces result from a "combination of ingredients," including failure to
communicate, infidelity, sexual incompatibility, money problems, substance
abuse, physical abuse, et cetera.


Harry,
I am glad my cut and paste article was informative.




basskisser April 4th 05 07:11 PM


NOYB wrote:
"Kevin Noble" wrote in message
...
If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.


Your family just considered it good ol' fashioned Georgia-style

family
bonding between a mom and her son, right?


You're ignorance is showing again, NOYB. The post above ain't from who
you think it's from....sorry, nice try.
Also, after trying to get everyone here to think you're something
special, you post low life crap like that above, proving what you
really are.


basskisser April 4th 05 07:15 PM


Kevin Noble wrote:
If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.

--
Kevin Noble
The best source for home grown.
For a clean smooth toke insist on Knoble homegrown.



"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...

"Jim," wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Jim, wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral

sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next

six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools

reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14=BD, also say oral sex is

less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in

two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about

oral
sex, which surprised the study's lead author, Bonnie

Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California

San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most

kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about

45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.

Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I

worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of

condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested

for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine

or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was

NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is

great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under

what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for

the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I

doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.


Uh, Smithers, this is from the same server as yours......hmmm?????


John H April 4th 05 07:15 PM

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:13:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
.net...


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.


And from the current president, they're learning that dancing is a suitable
substitute for the truth, energy policies can be made in total secrecy with
a group of unidentified cronies, and learning is unimportant and perhaps
even frowned upon. Last November, you made a clear choice to accept these
crimes. Own them and be proud of them, or shut the **** up.


What horse****.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H April 4th 05 07:17 PM

On 4 Apr 2005 11:08:31 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Kevin Noble wrote:
If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.

--
Kevin Noble
The best source for home grown.
For a clean smooth toke insist on Knoble homegrown.

Basskisser, why should someone using the name 'Kevin Noble' be so upsetting to
you?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

DSK April 4th 05 07:29 PM

Last November, you made a clear choice to accept these crimes. Own them
and be proud of them, or shut the **** up.



NOYB wrote:
Crimes? What crimes?


Very good, Nobby. Almost perfect, in fact.

Now shove your head in just a little bit further. Apparently you haven't
quite forgotten what sunshine is, yet.

DSK


Just Me April 4th 05 07:59 PM

Does a Kevin Noble post in rec.boats?


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Kevin Noble wrote:
If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.

--
Kevin Noble
The best source for home grown.
For a clean smooth toke insist on Knoble homegrown.



"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...

"Jim," wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Jim, wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral

sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next

six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools

reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is

less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in

two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about

oral
sex, which surprised the study's lead author, Bonnie

Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California

San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most

kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about

45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.

Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I

worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of

condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested

for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine

or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was

NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is

great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under

what
appears to be the popular definition.


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for

the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I

doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.



Of course! Low life scum that can't post anything of any relevance, and
are scared little sissies must post using someone else's identity. Grow
up.



P.Fritz April 4th 05 09:07 PM


"Just Me" wrote in message
...
Does a Kevin Noble post in rec.boats?


Poor little asslicker.....I mean Kevin.......takes the bait every
time.......LMAO



"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Kevin Noble wrote:
If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.

--
Kevin Noble
The best source for home grown.
For a clean smooth toke insist on Knoble homegrown.



"NOYB" wrote in message
. net...

"Jim," wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Jim, wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral

sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next

six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools

reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is

less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in

two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about

oral
sex, which surprised the study's lead author, Bonnie

Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California

San
Francisco.



I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most

kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about

45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.

Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs, I

worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of

condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the
pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be arrested

for
selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine

or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was

NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is

great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.


My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under

what
appears to be the popular definition.

Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for

the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I

doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.



Of course! Low life scum that can't post anything of any relevance, and
are scared little sissies must post using someone else's identity. Grow
up.





Paul Schilter April 5th 05 12:46 AM

NOYB,
Well there's the legal definition and the one your wife would buy.
They're worlds apart. :-)
Paul

NOYB wrote:
snipped

Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue in her
honey hole. It wasn't sex."




Paul Schilter April 5th 05 12:47 AM

Harry,
Lack of it is! Just kidding --- I couldn't resist. :-)
Paul

Harry Krause wrote:
snipped
"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of marriages.




NOYB April 5th 05 01:25 AM


"Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote in message
...
NOYB,
Well there's the legal definition and the one your wife would buy. They're
worlds apart. :-)



The US Constitution prevents cruel and unusual punishment. My wife's law
doesn't...which means I abide by her law before all others.



-rick- April 5th 05 03:21 AM

NOYB wrote:

Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the word
"sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt any
*responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.


More likely they decide for themselves.

NOYB April 5th 05 03:37 AM


"-rick-" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt
any *responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.


More likely they decide for themselves.


I'd wager that kids growing up anytime though the late 80's considered oral
sex to be a form of "sexual relations". If kids think differently today,
then what's the reason for it?




-rick- April 5th 05 04:43 AM

NOYB wrote:

I'd wager that kids growing up anytime though the late 80's considered oral
sex to be a form of "sexual relations". If kids think differently today,
then what's the reason for it?


You should ask the kids who take abstinence pledges yet have higher
rates of oral and anal sex. Maybe it's a church thing, I wouldn't know.

Just Me April 5th 05 05:31 AM

Harry,
Tell us about your first time.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"-rick-" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote:


Perhaps the high school kids developed their working definition for the
word "sex" from the guy getting blow jobs in the Oval Office? I doubt
any *responsible* adult would teach them that oral sex is not sex.

More likely they decide for themselves.



I'd wager that kids growing up anytime though the late 80's considered
oral sex to be a form of "sexual relations". If kids think differently
today, then what's the reason for it?



You're using the term "sexual relations" too broadly, if you're forgive
the pun.

I don't want to bore you with the details, but in my single, dating days
in the 1960s, more than one young lady said to me, "No sex tonight, how
about a B.J. instead."





--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




Tuuk April 5th 05 05:44 AM

Ok krause,,, lets have a look,,,

lemme parse it for you

"""I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14,""""



Ya,,, ok krause,, what were you doing,, building boats? engineering the
Atlantic crosser for dear old dad?


""""""and this was about 45 years
ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.'"""""'



too bad,, because you became hatched.



""""Forbidden,
but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool jobs,"""""


was what???? screwing fat chicks 10 years your junior?


""'''I worked
at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads of condoms were
sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I asked the pharmacist
who owned the place if we were going to be arrested for selling rubbers,
and he just laughed.""""""""



That is funny,, 45 years later and everyone is still laughing at what you
say...




"""""" My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or
10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant."""""



So how did your parents teach you this krause??? be specific,, I mean you
claimed that I had sex with my own mother around the same age brackets,,, so
what did your parents do to teach you sex krause?? Let you watch them? hmmmm
did dad let you watch the sneaks?? when the 3rd wife came along for dad,,,
did he let you watch them ???


""'''" It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is
great""""""


That is not what the chubby little ding a ling says,,, 20 years your
junior,, I mean I bet she grabs your hand,,, you go,,,, ooooooomy,,,, and
then oooooooops,,, ooomy,, ouch ouch ooo toooooo late,,, good night honey,,
when will you be home???


"""""" fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences."'''''

Ya,,, just marrying you krause is enought negative consequence,,,,,


""""""" Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative."""""""

hmmmmmm krause you really are off the deep end.




--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.



Ya,,, and you union slobs had nothing to do with it? I mean krause you carry
two union cards and with the massive job migration caused by you union
slugs,,, no jobs,,Mexicans working where you wouldn't,, hmmmmmmmmm that is
the only reason why Bush wants them in,,, because they will save your
country,,, so these krauses down there now monitoring the border shooting
everything in sight,, lol,,,, only in America,,,,, land of krause,,,,








Tuuk April 5th 05 05:47 AM

"""'''"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of
marriages."''"'''

Listen to you krause,,, trying to justify the 20 year junior you are
screwing,,,

So she likes you for your intellectual capital??? lol,,, oooo my,, the
stories keep her going at night,,, oooo my,,,

krause,,, ever wonder why she always asks you to pick up that bottle of ding
a ling for her once a night and those Duracel D batteries every night???












"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Jim, wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:


Jim, wrote:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie Halpern-Felsher,
associate professor of pediatrics at University of California San
Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45
years ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.
Forbidden, but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool
jobs, I worked at a family drugstore near my highschool where boatloads
of condoms were sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my naivete, I
asked the pharmacist who owned the place if we were going to be
arrested for selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or 10
years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was NOT to
get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under what
appears to be the popular definition.


Oh, sure. Most of us got that when Clinton first brought it up. "Sex" is
intercourse. We knew that at age 13. Anything else was just fooling
around.



Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue in
her honey hole. It wasn't sex."





"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of
marriages.



--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




Tuuk April 5th 05 05:48 AM


Sure krause,,

If anyone knows why marriages fail ,, it would be you krause,,, 3rd
marriage,, a gal ,, little bit bigger than most and 20 years your junior,,,



are they spelling krause,,,,, failure these days????
















"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Jim, wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:



Jim, wrote:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7378833/

Extract
CHICAGO - About one in five ninth-graders report having had oral sex
and almost one-third say they intend to try it during the next six
months, a small study of teens at two California schools reports.

The teenagers, whose average age was 14˝, also say oral sex is less
risky, more common and more acceptable for their age group than
intercourse.

The researchers surveyed 580 ethnically diverse ninth-graders in two
California public high schools.

Girls and boys reported similar experiences and opinions about oral
sex, which surprised the study’s lead author, Bonnie
Halpern-Felsher, associate professor of pediatrics at University of
California San Francisco.




I grew up in a progressive small city in Connecticut where most kids
were sexually active no later than 13 or 14, and this was about 45
years ago, when the sale of condoms was "forbidden" in that state.
Forbidden, but openly sold. In fact, at one of my first afterschool
jobs, I worked at a family drugstore near my highschool where
boatloads of condoms were sold every day, and sometimes by me. In my
naivete, I asked the pharmacist who owned the place if we were going
to be arrested for selling rubbers, and he just laughed.

My parents made sure I know the mechanics of sex when I was nine or
10 years old, and my father made damned sure that I knew that I was
NOT to get any young pregnant.

It's really sad so many Americans are so hung up on sex. Sex is great
fun, and, if you're careful, there need not be any negative
consequences.

Unless, of course, you are a repressed conservative.



My point was/is "I never has sex with that woman" is correct under
what appears to be the popular definition.


Oh, sure. Most of us got that when Clinton first brought it up. "Sex"
is intercourse. We knew that at age 13. Anything else was just fooling
around.


Unbelievable. No wonder more than half of marriages end in divorce.

"But honey...I was just fooling around when I was sticking my tongue in
her honey hole. It wasn't sex."





"Sex" is not the major reason for the failure of the majority of
marriages.



Sure it is. Sex with someone else.




Nope.

--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




Doug Kanter April 5th 05 12:20 PM

" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
Ok krause,,, lets have a look,,,


Pant```pant````pant````I';m jealous` Harry```````Tuuk's gonna`parse for you.

Sorry ````````````about all the ````````. I was chopping walnuts last night.



Doug Kanter April 5th 05 12:20 PM


"-rick-" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

I'd wager that kids growing up anytime though the late 80's considered
oral sex to be a form of "sexual relations". If kids think differently
today, then what's the reason for it?


You should ask the kids who take abstinence pledges yet have higher rates
of oral and anal sex. Maybe it's a church thing, I wouldn't know.


It's certainly a Catholic church thing.



basskisser April 5th 05 12:37 PM


John H wrote:
On 4 Apr 2005 11:08:31 -0700, "basskisser"

wrote:


Kevin Noble wrote:
If I had ever gotten a blowjob, I would have considered it sex.

--
Kevin Noble
The best source for home grown.
For a clean smooth toke insist on Knoble homegrown.

Basskisser, why should someone using the name 'Kevin Noble' be so

upsetting to
you?
--
John H

Because the dumb people here, who don't know me, think it's me. Do you
think it's prudent, and an honest practice for Smithers et al. to post
under other people's names, such as Harry's? The funny thing is, he
thinks he's slick, but he's not bright enough to cover his tracks, his
origination server is the same every name he uses!!!!!!


basskisser April 5th 05 12:44 PM


P.Fritz wrote:
"Just Me" wrote in message
...
Does a Kevin Noble post in rec.boats?


Poor little asslicker.....I mean Kevin.......takes the bait every
time.......LMAO


Really? I thought you had me killfiled? If so, how do you reply to any
and every post and reply that I make? Now, because you aren't bright, I
guess, as usual, I need to explain it to you. I mean, someone who, even
though the Labatt website says differently, and a company
representitive spells it out in an email, you still think it's Labatt's
pretty much proves how bright you are....not very.
So....you see, you, and a few others who aren't bright enough to figure
it out, and those who just automatically believed JoeTechnician
(NOYB!), think that I'm Kevin. That being said, when Smithers posts as
Kevin Noble, it's directed at me. And yes, it's Smithers, et al, as
he's not smart enough to cover his tracks. Same origination IP address
as all of his crap, like pretending to be Harry. His obsession with
this newsgroup is weird. Kind of like you stalking me constantly.



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