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Doug,
I have no problem with the Dali Lama, The Emperor of Japan, or the lunatic on the street communicating with God. Except for the lunatic, they will have a large number of people waiting in line to "pay their respects". The institution of the Papal Office has enormous power, the same as "the bully pulpit" of the US presidency. The way the person handles the power will determine their legacy. I disagreed with many of the policies of Bill Clinton, but when he dies he will have many people standing in line "to pay their respects". While Clinton was not perfect, he tried to the best of his ability to make the US and the world a better place. 50% of American's endorsed his agenda. I am glad that our leaders are remembered for their contributions and efforts to improve society. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Me" wrote in message ... The Catholic Church, along with every organized religion, have situations in their history that wish they could forget. There have been evil people who have tainted the reputations of every organized religion, yet the major religions do provide excellent guidelines for personal and social happiness. Even lately, the Vatican has danced when certain aspects of recent history have been questioned. Pope John Paul II was not perfect, but his legacy as a decent strong leader who made a positive impact on Catholics and Non-Catholics will be remembered. Actually, I think he was cool. This is not about him personally. I'm especially amazed at much of what he did while still in Poland, and I wish Martin Luther King had been around to see it. The two of them would've seen eye to eye, as far as resisting evil and embarrassing those who believe they're powerful. However, you might want to think about this: Popes believe (loosely, perhaps) that they have a special relationship or connection to god. So do the emperor of Japan and the Dalai Lama. How do you feel about this? Now....how do you feel about "civilians" who think god talks to them? What if your wife says the same thing? How about an odd looking homeless person ranting on a street corner? If you believe every religious person has the same ability to communicate with god, then logically, you cannot point to the pope as someone special. He's no different than the guy with the biggest funny hat at an Elks club. He just got lucky. |
"JimH" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:51:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:0t8851t90nglhr3dn9c1d7nrnv4anhjqnd@4ax .com... On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:49:47 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "John H" wrote in message The Church condones the 'rhythm method' as an acceptable method of birth control. Who gives a ****? Seriously....what sort of person orders his or her life based on advice from a huge club made up of people who've sworn off marriage & sex (except with young boys)? Well Doug, a few billion Catholics, that's who. Now let me give the rest of your post the attention it deserves. So, in other words, a few billion people take family planning advice from men who've sworn off family life. I understand now. That's like going to a podiatrist for heart problems. PS. If you want to know who may give a ****, turn on CNN, NBC, CBS, etc. You'll get the idea. Yes. A million people viewing a dead guy who's supposed to have his own red phone to god. And, they're waiting about 24 hours to see the body. To that, I offer what many mothers used to say: "Just because your friends do something stupid doesn't mean YOU have to." You never attended a wake, Doug? Don't be a smartass. Nobody's wake merits a 24 hour wait. Nobody. Period. People line up to pay respect to the deceased. If old man Curmudgeon passes away and nobody attends his wake, that's understandable. If 1 million people line up to pay respects to one of the World's most decent people, that's understandable too. He was one of the most recognized people in the World, and touched more lives in 25 years than this entire newsgroup combined will in our entire lives. I wonder why Doug is so upset over this? Is it because over 1 billion people disagree with him or because he considers his opinion the one all should abide by? There is still a lot of anti- Catholic hatred out there. This reminds me of some folks here giving their opinion of boats and putting down others who disagree with it.. (boating related connection) |
You're talking about individual people who have value. I'm referring to
institutions which have infections that are ignored, and therefore condoned. "Me" wrote in message ... Doug, I have no problem with the Dali Lama, The Emperor of Japan, or the lunatic on the street communicating with God. Except for the lunatic, they will have a large number of people waiting in line to "pay their respects". The institution of the Papal Office has enormous power, the same as "the bully pulpit" of the US presidency. The way the person handles the power will determine their legacy. I disagreed with many of the policies of Bill Clinton, but when he dies he will have many people standing in line "to pay their respects". While Clinton was not perfect, he tried to the best of his ability to make the US and the world a better place. 50% of American's endorsed his agenda. I am glad that our leaders are remembered for their contributions and efforts to improve society. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Me" wrote in message ... The Catholic Church, along with every organized religion, have situations in their history that wish they could forget. There have been evil people who have tainted the reputations of every organized religion, yet the major religions do provide excellent guidelines for personal and social happiness. Even lately, the Vatican has danced when certain aspects of recent history have been questioned. Pope John Paul II was not perfect, but his legacy as a decent strong leader who made a positive impact on Catholics and Non-Catholics will be remembered. Actually, I think he was cool. This is not about him personally. I'm especially amazed at much of what he did while still in Poland, and I wish Martin Luther King had been around to see it. The two of them would've seen eye to eye, as far as resisting evil and embarrassing those who believe they're powerful. However, you might want to think about this: Popes believe (loosely, perhaps) that they have a special relationship or connection to god. So do the emperor of Japan and the Dalai Lama. How do you feel about this? Now....how do you feel about "civilians" who think god talks to them? What if your wife says the same thing? How about an odd looking homeless person ranting on a street corner? If you believe every religious person has the same ability to communicate with god, then logically, you cannot point to the pope as someone special. He's no different than the guy with the biggest funny hat at an Elks club. He just got lucky. |
I am not a catholic, but I have known many good Catholics. The Catholic
Church and Pope John Paul II formally apologized to the Jewish people for ignoring their plight during WW II. The Catholic Church has instituted a formal procedure to get rid of any pedophiles who are using the church to prey on children. The actions of a few priest does not diminish the excellent work done by the vast majority of priests. The fact that ignorant bishops believed they could "cure" pedophiles through counseling and religious works, should not minimize the good the Catholic Church has done for society. In the Protestant religions, there have been pedophiles who have molested children. I went to a Presbyterian Church where a music minister was found guilty of molesting kids. After the fact, we found out this was not the first time. I went to a school where two teachers were found guilty of having sex with underage kids. in the past there were school principals who would try to quietly get rid of teachers who were guilty of inappropriate behavior with students. The actions of a few priest. music ministers, boy scout leaders or school teachers should not diminish the excellent work of the majority. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... You're talking about individual people who have value. I'm referring to institutions which have infections that are ignored, and therefore condoned. "Me" wrote in message ... Doug, I have no problem with the Dali Lama, The Emperor of Japan, or the lunatic on the street communicating with God. Except for the lunatic, they will have a large number of people waiting in line to "pay their respects". The institution of the Papal Office has enormous power, the same as "the bully pulpit" of the US presidency. The way the person handles the power will determine their legacy. I disagreed with many of the policies of Bill Clinton, but when he dies he will have many people standing in line "to pay their respects". While Clinton was not perfect, he tried to the best of his ability to make the US and the world a better place. 50% of American's endorsed his agenda. I am glad that our leaders are remembered for their contributions and efforts to improve society. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Me" wrote in message ... The Catholic Church, along with every organized religion, have situations in their history that wish they could forget. There have been evil people who have tainted the reputations of every organized religion, yet the major religions do provide excellent guidelines for personal and social happiness. Even lately, the Vatican has danced when certain aspects of recent history have been questioned. Pope John Paul II was not perfect, but his legacy as a decent strong leader who made a positive impact on Catholics and Non-Catholics will be remembered. Actually, I think he was cool. This is not about him personally. I'm especially amazed at much of what he did while still in Poland, and I wish Martin Luther King had been around to see it. The two of them would've seen eye to eye, as far as resisting evil and embarrassing those who believe they're powerful. However, you might want to think about this: Popes believe (loosely, perhaps) that they have a special relationship or connection to god. So do the emperor of Japan and the Dalai Lama. How do you feel about this? Now....how do you feel about "civilians" who think god talks to them? What if your wife says the same thing? How about an odd looking homeless person ranting on a street corner? If you believe every religious person has the same ability to communicate with god, then logically, you cannot point to the pope as someone special. He's no different than the guy with the biggest funny hat at an Elks club. He just got lucky. |
And, the millions of people plunged into poverty because of the ban on
contraception? Hmmm.....that continues to this day, although I'm sure it's digested with a wink and a nod by some people. Disclaimer, for better understanding: I don't believe in joining clubs. Very bad, whether it's a church or the boy scouts, or whatever. "Me" wrote in message ... I am not a catholic, but I have known many good Catholics. The Catholic Church and Pope John Paul II formally apologized to the Jewish people for ignoring their plight during WW II. The Catholic Church has instituted a formal procedure to get rid of any pedophiles who are using the church to prey on children. The actions of a few priest does not diminish the excellent work done by the vast majority of priests. The fact that ignorant bishops believed they could "cure" pedophiles through counseling and religious works, should not minimize the good the Catholic Church has done for society. In the Protestant religions, there have been pedophiles who have molested children. I went to a Presbyterian Church where a music minister was found guilty of molesting kids. After the fact, we found out this was not the first time. I went to a school where two teachers were found guilty of having sex with underage kids. in the past there were school principals who would try to quietly get rid of teachers who were guilty of inappropriate behavior with students. The actions of a few priest. music ministers, boy scout leaders or school teachers should not diminish the excellent work of the majority. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... You're talking about individual people who have value. I'm referring to institutions which have infections that are ignored, and therefore condoned. "Me" wrote in message ... Doug, I have no problem with the Dali Lama, The Emperor of Japan, or the lunatic on the street communicating with God. Except for the lunatic, they will have a large number of people waiting in line to "pay their respects". The institution of the Papal Office has enormous power, the same as "the bully pulpit" of the US presidency. The way the person handles the power will determine their legacy. I disagreed with many of the policies of Bill Clinton, but when he dies he will have many people standing in line "to pay their respects". While Clinton was not perfect, he tried to the best of his ability to make the US and the world a better place. 50% of American's endorsed his agenda. I am glad that our leaders are remembered for their contributions and efforts to improve society. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Me" wrote in message ... The Catholic Church, along with every organized religion, have situations in their history that wish they could forget. There have been evil people who have tainted the reputations of every organized religion, yet the major religions do provide excellent guidelines for personal and social happiness. Even lately, the Vatican has danced when certain aspects of recent history have been questioned. Pope John Paul II was not perfect, but his legacy as a decent strong leader who made a positive impact on Catholics and Non-Catholics will be remembered. Actually, I think he was cool. This is not about him personally. I'm especially amazed at much of what he did while still in Poland, and I wish Martin Luther King had been around to see it. The two of them would've seen eye to eye, as far as resisting evil and embarrassing those who believe they're powerful. However, you might want to think about this: Popes believe (loosely, perhaps) that they have a special relationship or connection to god. So do the emperor of Japan and the Dalai Lama. How do you feel about this? Now....how do you feel about "civilians" who think god talks to them? What if your wife says the same thing? How about an odd looking homeless person ranting on a street corner? If you believe every religious person has the same ability to communicate with god, then logically, you cannot point to the pope as someone special. He's no different than the guy with the biggest funny hat at an Elks club. He just got lucky. |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? |
"P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:51:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:0t8851t90nglhr3dn9c1d7nrnv4anhjqnd@4a x.com... On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:49:47 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "John H" wrote in message The Church condones the 'rhythm method' as an acceptable method of birth control. Who gives a ****? Seriously....what sort of person orders his or her life based on advice from a huge club made up of people who've sworn off marriage & sex (except with young boys)? Well Doug, a few billion Catholics, that's who. Now let me give the rest of your post the attention it deserves. So, in other words, a few billion people take family planning advice from men who've sworn off family life. I understand now. That's like going to a podiatrist for heart problems. PS. If you want to know who may give a ****, turn on CNN, NBC, CBS, etc. You'll get the idea. Yes. A million people viewing a dead guy who's supposed to have his own red phone to god. And, they're waiting about 24 hours to see the body. To that, I offer what many mothers used to say: "Just because your friends do something stupid doesn't mean YOU have to." You never attended a wake, Doug? Don't be a smartass. Nobody's wake merits a 24 hour wait. Nobody. Period. People line up to pay respect to the deceased. If old man Curmudgeon passes away and nobody attends his wake, that's understandable. If 1 million people line up to pay respects to one of the World's most decent people, that's understandable too. He was one of the most recognized people in the World, and touched more lives in 25 years than this entire newsgroup combined will in our entire lives. I wonder why Doug is so upset over this? Is it because over 1 billion people disagree with him or because he considers his opinion the one all should abide by? There is still a lot of anti- Catholic hatred out there. Cool! I've never been part of a persecuted group before. Do I get Federal assistance now? |
NYOB,
So you are a Catholic, I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. ; ) "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:51:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "John H" wrote in message news:0t8851t90nglhr3dn9c1d7nrnv4anhjqnd@4 ax.com... On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:49:47 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "John H" wrote in message The Church condones the 'rhythm method' as an acceptable method of birth control. Who gives a ****? Seriously....what sort of person orders his or her life based on advice from a huge club made up of people who've sworn off marriage & sex (except with young boys)? Well Doug, a few billion Catholics, that's who. Now let me give the rest of your post the attention it deserves. So, in other words, a few billion people take family planning advice from men who've sworn off family life. I understand now. That's like going to a podiatrist for heart problems. PS. If you want to know who may give a ****, turn on CNN, NBC, CBS, etc. You'll get the idea. Yes. A million people viewing a dead guy who's supposed to have his own red phone to god. And, they're waiting about 24 hours to see the body. To that, I offer what many mothers used to say: "Just because your friends do something stupid doesn't mean YOU have to." You never attended a wake, Doug? Don't be a smartass. Nobody's wake merits a 24 hour wait. Nobody. Period. People line up to pay respect to the deceased. If old man Curmudgeon passes away and nobody attends his wake, that's understandable. If 1 million people line up to pay respects to one of the World's most decent people, that's understandable too. He was one of the most recognized people in the World, and touched more lives in 25 years than this entire newsgroup combined will in our entire lives. I wonder why Doug is so upset over this? Is it because over 1 billion people disagree with him or because he considers his opinion the one all should abide by? There is still a lot of anti- Catholic hatred out there. Cool! I've never been part of a persecuted group before. Do I get Federal assistance now? |
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? |
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. You're just afraid to put your name to a post that defends human sacrifice, cannibalism, and polygamy. |
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. You're just afraid to put your name to a post that defends human sacrifice, cannibalism, and polygamy. And you're afraid to admit that there were civilizations in this hemisphere, before priests arrived, which did not practice any of these things you've mentioned. But of course, there were. Oh....and you can remove polygamy from your list. It may have been (and may still be) appropriate for some cultures. If you're capable of thinking, you can come up with some reasons why. If not, too bad. |
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:00:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. No Doug. This discussion has become one which made an ass of Doug Kanter. You and DSK are great at flinging **** by the buckets full, but when it comes down to a fact or two, you're quick to start the personal attacks. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:00:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. No Doug. This discussion has become one which made an ass of Doug Kanter. You and DSK are great at flinging **** by the buckets full, but when it comes down to a fact or two, you're quick to start the personal attacks. Perhaps the two of you can put your heads together and get the research done more quickly. Then, come back and rejoin the discussion. But, in fact, research is not what's needed. NOYB is pretending not to know of cultures which were nicely civilized, sans cannibalism, and were destroyed by visits from priests and other scourges. But: Since it's such a nice day, I'm going to do two things at once - do you a favor, and also pull an ace out of my sleeve. Ask one of the kids you know where you might find the nearest library or bookstore. Find a book called "A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies", by Bartolomé De Las Casas. It was written in 1552, and dedicated by the author to Prince Philip of Spain. Of course, NOYB will say that it's worthless because you can't trust translators, especially those Hispanical ones. Oh well. |
Me wrote:
NYOB, So you are a Catholic, I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. ; ) I'd like to discuss NOYB's unholy desire to nuke millions of people with his parish priest. I bet there would be lots of contrition to make then. Hope he has a good set of rosary beads. |
"Don White" wrote in message ... Me wrote: NYOB, So you are a Catholic, I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. ; ) I'd like to discuss NOYB's unholy desire to nuke millions of people with his parish priest. I bet there would be lots of contrition to make then. Hope he has a good set of rosary beads. and some thick knee pads. NOYB is not the only person who wanted to nuke Iraq. If you remember Harry Krause wanted to nuke them into the stone age, so they would spend all their time rebuilding their infrastructure instead of worrying about the US. |
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:08:12 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:00:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. No Doug. This discussion has become one which made an ass of Doug Kanter. You and DSK are great at flinging **** by the buckets full, but when it comes down to a fact or two, you're quick to start the personal attacks. Perhaps the two of you can put your heads together and get the research done more quickly. Then, come back and rejoin the discussion. But, in fact, research is not what's needed. NOYB is pretending not to know of cultures which were nicely civilized, sans cannibalism, and were destroyed by visits from priests and other scourges. But: Since it's such a nice day, I'm going to do two things at once - do you a favor, and also pull an ace out of my sleeve. Ask one of the kids you know where you might find the nearest library or bookstore. Find a book called "A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies", by Bartolomé De Las Casas. It was written in 1552, and dedicated by the author to Prince Philip of Spain. Of course, NOYB will say that it's worthless because you can't trust translators, especially those Hispanical ones. Oh well. Bull****. You made one of your ridiculous assertions, he asked you to back it up, you make personal attack. Your MO is well known. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:29:51 -0400, "Me Again" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... Me wrote: NYOB, So you are a Catholic, I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. ; ) I'd like to discuss NOYB's unholy desire to nuke millions of people with his parish priest. I bet there would be lots of contrition to make then. Hope he has a good set of rosary beads. and some thick knee pads. NOYB is not the only person who wanted to nuke Iraq. If you remember Harry Krause wanted to nuke them into the stone age, so they would spend all their time rebuilding their infrastructure instead of worrying about the US. If Harry wants it, then Don wants it (unless NOYB wants it, in which case Don conveniently forgets...). -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. No Doug. This discussion has become one which made an ass of Doug Kanter. You and DSK are great at flinging **** by the buckets full, but when it comes down to a fact or two, you're quick to start the personal attacks. Perhaps the two of you can put your heads together and get the research done more quickly. Then, come back and rejoin the discussion. But, in fact, research is not what's needed. NOYB is pretending not to know of cultures which were nicely civilized, sans cannibalism, and were destroyed by visits from priests and other scourges. But: Since it's such a nice day, I'm going to do two things at once - do you a favor, and also pull an ace out of my sleeve. Ask one of the kids you know where you might find the nearest library or bookstore. Find a book called "A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies", by Bartolomé De Las Casas. It was written in 1552, and dedicated by the author to Prince Philip of Spain. Of course, NOYB will say that it's worthless because you can't trust translators, especially those Hispanical ones. Oh well. Bull****. You made one of your ridiculous assertions, he asked you to back it up, you make personal attack. Your MO is well known. Oh....I'm sorry. John won't be our winner today, but we're sending him home with a lifetime supply of Mrs Paul's fish sticks. Thanks for playing, John. Our next contestant packages holiday candy at a sheltered workshop in Pittsburgh. Let's see if maybe SHE can recognize a reliable historical source when she sees one! Let's welcome Sally Jones....come on up, Sally! |
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:26:39 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. No Doug. This discussion has become one which made an ass of Doug Kanter. You and DSK are great at flinging **** by the buckets full, but when it comes down to a fact or two, you're quick to start the personal attacks. Perhaps the two of you can put your heads together and get the research done more quickly. Then, come back and rejoin the discussion. But, in fact, research is not what's needed. NOYB is pretending not to know of cultures which were nicely civilized, sans cannibalism, and were destroyed by visits from priests and other scourges. But: Since it's such a nice day, I'm going to do two things at once - do you a favor, and also pull an ace out of my sleeve. Ask one of the kids you know where you might find the nearest library or bookstore. Find a book called "A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies", by Bartolomé De Las Casas. It was written in 1552, and dedicated by the author to Prince Philip of Spain. Of course, NOYB will say that it's worthless because you can't trust translators, especially those Hispanical ones. Oh well. Bull****. You made one of your ridiculous assertions, he asked you to back it up, you make personal attack. Your MO is well known. Oh....I'm sorry. John won't be our winner today, but we're sending him home with a lifetime supply of Mrs Paul's fish sticks. Thanks for playing, John. Our next contestant packages holiday candy at a sheltered workshop in Pittsburgh. Let's see if maybe SHE can recognize a reliable historical source when she sees one! Let's welcome Sally Jones....come on up, Sally! G'day Doug. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:00:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. No Doug. This discussion has become one which made an ass of Doug Kanter. You and DSK are great at flinging **** by the buckets full, but when it comes down to a fact or two, you're quick to start the personal attacks. Perhaps the two of you can put your heads together and get the research done more quickly. Then, come back and rejoin the discussion. But, in fact, research is not what's needed. NOYB is pretending not to know of cultures which were nicely civilized, sans cannibalism, and were destroyed by visits from priests and other scourges. But: Since it's such a nice day, I'm going to do two things at once - do you a favor, and also pull an ace out of my sleeve. Ask one of the kids you know where you might find the nearest library or bookstore. Find a book called "A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies", by Bartolomé De Las Casas. It was written in 1552, and dedicated by the author to Prince Philip of Spain. Geez. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear when I said "the Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries". A couple of centuries means the last 200 years. What terrible acts has the Catholic church committed in the last 200 years...and how does that compare to the amount of good that the church has done? |
"Don White" wrote in message ... Me wrote: NYOB, So you are a Catholic, I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. ; ) I'd like to discuss NOYB's unholy desire to nuke millions of people with his parish priest. I do not desire to nuke my parish priest with those millions of people. Why would you say such a thing? |
"Me Again" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... Me wrote: NYOB, So you are a Catholic, I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. ; ) I'd like to discuss NOYB's unholy desire to nuke millions of people with his parish priest. I bet there would be lots of contrition to make then. Hope he has a good set of rosary beads. and some thick knee pads. NOYB is not the only person who wanted to nuke Iraq. If you remember Harry Krause wanted to nuke them into the stone age, so they would spend all their time rebuilding their infrastructure instead of worrying about the US. That was before he saw which side of the issue the Democratic Party decided to take. Then Harry promptly changed his mind to fall in line like a good little jackass. |
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Don White" wrote in message ... Me wrote: NYOB, So you are a Catholic, I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. ; ) I'd like to discuss NOYB's unholy desire to nuke millions of people with his parish priest. I do not desire to nuke my parish priest with those millions of people. Why would you say such a thing? He didn't say nuking your parish priest........he said nuking thos millions WITH your parish priest......so that begs the question......how radioactive is your parish priest? ;-) |
NYOB,
Religion is very similar to politics. Logic and reason are normally ignored when discussing either. ; ) I sometimes question the benefit of the de-centralized Religions, such as the Presbyterian Church I am affiliated with, or the centralized religions, such as the Catholic Church. They both have their benefits and faults. In my opinion, the two major mistakes the Catholic Church has made in the last 100 yrs is: their handling of the Nazi's during and immediately after WW II, and the illegal and uninformed manner in which they handled pedophiles priest. Pope John Paul II apologized to the Jews in reference to the Nazi's, and has instituted a system that is designed to quickly remove and inform the police if a priest is accused of any illegal activity. I don't know of any other leader in this century, (religious or otherwise) whose legacy will be as positive and as long lasting as Pope JP II. You and other Catholics should be proud of the Catholic Church contribution's to society, both Catholics and non Catholics.. "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:00:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. No Doug. This discussion has become one which made an ass of Doug Kanter. You and DSK are great at flinging **** by the buckets full, but when it comes down to a fact or two, you're quick to start the personal attacks. Perhaps the two of you can put your heads together and get the research done more quickly. Then, come back and rejoin the discussion. But, in fact, research is not what's needed. NOYB is pretending not to know of cultures which were nicely civilized, sans cannibalism, and were destroyed by visits from priests and other scourges. But: Since it's such a nice day, I'm going to do two things at once - do you a favor, and also pull an ace out of my sleeve. Ask one of the kids you know where you might find the nearest library or bookstore. Find a book called "A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies", by Bartolomé De Las Casas. It was written in 1552, and dedicated by the author to Prince Philip of Spain. Geez. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear when I said "the Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries". A couple of centuries means the last 200 years. What terrible acts has the Catholic church committed in the last 200 years...and how does that compare to the amount of good that the church has done? |
"P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Don White" wrote in message ... Me wrote: NYOB, So you are a Catholic, I knew there was a reason I didn't like you. ; ) I'd like to discuss NOYB's unholy desire to nuke millions of people with his parish priest. I do not desire to nuke my parish priest with those millions of people. Why would you say such a thing? He didn't say nuking your parish priest........he said nuking thos millions WITH your parish priest......so that begs the question......how radioactive is your parish priest? ;-) Yeah, how radioactive is he? Is he equivalent to a 10 Ton nuke? |
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:00:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. No Doug. This discussion has become one which made an ass of Doug Kanter. You and DSK are great at flinging **** by the buckets full, but when it comes down to a fact or two, you're quick to start the personal attacks. Perhaps the two of you can put your heads together and get the research done more quickly. Then, come back and rejoin the discussion. But, in fact, research is not what's needed. NOYB is pretending not to know of cultures which were nicely civilized, sans cannibalism, and were destroyed by visits from priests and other scourges. But: Since it's such a nice day, I'm going to do two things at once - do you a favor, and also pull an ace out of my sleeve. Ask one of the kids you know where you might find the nearest library or bookstore. Find a book called "A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies", by Bartolomé De Las Casas. It was written in 1552, and dedicated by the author to Prince Philip of Spain. Geez. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear when I said "the Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries". A couple of centuries means the last 200 years. What terrible acts has the Catholic church committed in the last 200 years...and how does that compare to the amount of good that the church has done? Well, let's see: The church still thinks it can meddle in family planning, specifically contraception. Since quite a few economic and environmental problems are the direct result of overpopulation, I'd say that qualifies as an offense that continues right to this day. Let's see....what else. Oh..yeah...they won't ordain gay priests*, even though the primary function of the clergy is to interpret the meaning of life and morality, and gay people are as likely to have valid, enlightening insights as anyone else. There's another offense. * At least not openly. snicker |
Doug,
The Catholic Church does not meddle in my ability or any other non Catholics to use birth control. I have never heard of them trying to interfere with non Catholics using any method of contraception. If you are a Catholic, who wants to use contraceptives you either ignore their rule, or you decide not to be a Catholic. I had not heard the Catholic Church had banned gay priests. I thought they had insisted upon celibate priest, and no one every asked what kind of sex they were giving up, but I could be wrong. ; ) I had heard they banned pedophiles, which is a good thing. ; ) What makes you think they ask priest their sexual preference before they let them into the "club"? You seem to be grasping at straws. Your problem seems to focus on the fact that you do not like "clubs" and you do not like the Catholic Church because it is a big club with lots of rules. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:dTi5e.742 Well, let's see: The church still thinks it can meddle in family planning, specifically contraception. Since quite a few economic and environmental problems are the direct result of overpopulation, I'd say that qualifies as an offense that continues right to this day. Let's see....what else. Oh..yeah...they won't ordain gay priests*, even though the primary function of the clergy is to interpret the meaning of life and morality, and gay people are as likely to have valid, enlightening insights as anyone else. There's another offense. * At least not openly. snicker |
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:00:25 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I have no problem with them doing that. However, I can still question their judgement, not just for standing in line for so long to see a dead body, but also in contributing their time, attention, spirits and money to an organization (the Catholic church) I wouldn't do it. which, as any educated person knows, has a reputation that's dubious, at best. I'd clarify that to say "dubious, at worst". Then I might agree with you. The Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries. Yeah...as long as you weren't a native of a country that already had a perfectly fine spiritual tradition to begin with. Example? Don't be an asshole. You went to school. You're aware of examples. I just want you to give me examples of what *you* consider to be "perfectly fine spiritual traditions". Sacrificial virgins? Cannibalism? Polygamy? Sorry, tooth-boy, but this discussion has apparently become one which, like many employment opportunities, assumes a certain level of education. Better luck next time. No Doug. This discussion has become one which made an ass of Doug Kanter. You and DSK are great at flinging **** by the buckets full, but when it comes down to a fact or two, you're quick to start the personal attacks. Perhaps the two of you can put your heads together and get the research done more quickly. Then, come back and rejoin the discussion. But, in fact, research is not what's needed. NOYB is pretending not to know of cultures which were nicely civilized, sans cannibalism, and were destroyed by visits from priests and other scourges. But: Since it's such a nice day, I'm going to do two things at once - do you a favor, and also pull an ace out of my sleeve. Ask one of the kids you know where you might find the nearest library or bookstore. Find a book called "A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies", by Bartolomé De Las Casas. It was written in 1552, and dedicated by the author to Prince Philip of Spain. Geez. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear when I said "the Catholic church has done far more good than bad in the last couple of centuries". A couple of centuries means the last 200 years. What terrible acts has the Catholic church committed in the last 200 years...and how does that compare to the amount of good that the church has done? Well, let's see: The church still thinks it can meddle in family planning, specifically contraception. Since quite a few economic and environmental problems are the direct result of overpopulation, I'd say that qualifies as an offense that continues right to this day. Let's see....what else. Oh..yeah...they won't ordain gay priests*, even though the primary function of the clergy is to interpret the meaning of life and morality, and gay people are as likely to have valid, enlightening insights as anyone else. There's another offense. You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for dirt. Not a lot there, eh Dougie? Where does opposing contraception and opposing gay priests fall on the "Doug Kanter scale of evil-doings"? Is it as bad as, say, beheading someone because they're not a Muslim? As bad as stoning a woman to death because she had sex out of marriage? How about the bloodletting and human sacrifice practiced by those "innocent" Aztecs that were persecuted by those terrible Catholic Spaniards? Your boy Bartolome didn't mention much about that in is book, did he? Where did the hatred of your own race, country and culture stem from? You probably cheered when the towers fell. On 9/11, that evil empire called America finally took one on the chin, right Doug? We deserved it for all the bad things our grandfather's grandfathers did in the past. Correct? |
"Me" wrote in message ... NYOB, Some people like to view themselves superior to "Ni_____s, Jews, and Catholics. They also like to wear white pointy hats and burn crosses discussing ethnic purity and the superiority of their religious beliefs. I would not begin to assume those people are representative of Protestants or Southerners. Doug is certainly one pompous, self-righteous SOB. 30 minutes of NPR each and every morning has the guy hating his own race. |
Damn, I like NPR, but I do feel some self hatred coming on.
"NOYB" wrote in message ... "Me" wrote in message ... NYOB, Some people like to view themselves superior to "Ni_____s, Jews, and Catholics. They also like to wear white pointy hats and burn crosses discussing ethnic purity and the superiority of their religious beliefs. I would not begin to assume those people are representative of Protestants or Southerners. Doug is certainly one pompous, self-righteous SOB. 30 minutes of NPR each and every morning has the guy hating his own race. |
"Me Again" wrote in message ... Damn, I like NPR, but I do feel some self hatred coming on. grin Let it go, man...let it go. All of that hatred will eat you up. |
NOYB wrote:
Yeah, how radioactive is he? Is he equivalent to a 10 Ton nuke? All right...everyone's a critic these days. I'd like to talk to your parish priest about your nuclear fantasies ... I'm sure he would have lots of 'penance' for you to complete. |
"Don White" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: Yeah, how radioactive is he? Is he equivalent to a 10 Ton nuke? All right...everyone's a critic these days. I'd like to talk to your parish priest about your nuclear fantasies ... I'm sure he would have lots of 'penance' for you to complete. He leaves me alone as long as the donation envelopes get there in a timely fashion. ;-) |
Much better .............I am feeling much better now.
............................ ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' I spent the night watched Fox News. "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Me Again" wrote in message ... Damn, I like NPR, but I do feel some self hatred coming on. grin Let it go, man...let it go. All of that hatred will eat you up. |
Have you contributed enough to get yourself in heaven?
"NOYB" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: Yeah, how radioactive is he? Is he equivalent to a 10 Ton nuke? All right...everyone's a critic these days. I'd like to talk to your parish priest about your nuclear fantasies ... I'm sure he would have lots of 'penance' for you to complete. He leaves me alone as long as the donation envelopes get there in a timely fashion. ;-) |
"Me Again" wrote in message ... Doug, The Catholic Church does not meddle in my ability or any other non Catholics to use birth control. I have never heard of them trying to interfere with non Catholics using any method of contraception. If you are a Catholic, who wants to use contraceptives you either ignore their rule, or you decide not to be a Catholic. I had not heard the Catholic Church had banned gay priests. I thought they had insisted upon celibate priest, and no one every asked what kind of sex they were giving up, but I could be wrong. ; ) I had heard they banned pedophiles, which is a good thing. ; ) What makes you think they ask priest their sexual preference before they let them into the "club"? You seem to be grasping at straws. Your problem seems to focus on the fact that you do not like "clubs" and you do not like the Catholic Church because it is a big club with lots of rules. Doug is displaying the typical ignorance of a anti catholic bigot. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:dTi5e.742 Well, let's see: The church still thinks it can meddle in family planning, specifically contraception. Since quite a few economic and environmental problems are the direct result of overpopulation, I'd say that qualifies as an offense that continues right to this day. Let's see....what else. Oh..yeah...they won't ordain gay priests*, even though the primary function of the clergy is to interpret the meaning of life and morality, and gay people are as likely to have valid, enlightening insights as anyone else. There's another offense. * At least not openly. snicker |
Bigotry, of any kind, is normally the result of ignorance. I have known
people who think Northerners are more evil then Jews, Catholics and Blacks. This just goes to show you that some hatred and bigotry is justified. ; ) "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "Me Again" wrote in message ... Doug, The Catholic Church does not meddle in my ability or any other non Catholics to use birth control. I have never heard of them trying to interfere with non Catholics using any method of contraception. If you are a Catholic, who wants to use contraceptives you either ignore their rule, or you decide not to be a Catholic. I had not heard the Catholic Church had banned gay priests. I thought they had insisted upon celibate priest, and no one every asked what kind of sex they were giving up, but I could be wrong. ; ) I had heard they banned pedophiles, which is a good thing. ; ) What makes you think they ask priest their sexual preference before they let them into the "club"? You seem to be grasping at straws. Your problem seems to focus on the fact that you do not like "clubs" and you do not like the Catholic Church because it is a big club with lots of rules. Doug is displaying the typical ignorance of a anti catholic bigot. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:dTi5e.742 Well, let's see: The church still thinks it can meddle in family planning, specifically contraception. Since quite a few economic and environmental problems are the direct result of overpopulation, I'd say that qualifies as an offense that continues right to this day. Let's see....what else. Oh..yeah...they won't ordain gay priests*, even though the primary function of the clergy is to interpret the meaning of life and morality, and gay people are as likely to have valid, enlightening insights as anyone else. There's another offense. * At least not openly. snicker |
"NOYB" wrote in message ... "Me" wrote in message ... NYOB, Some people like to view themselves superior to "Ni_____s, Jews, and Catholics. They also like to wear white pointy hats and burn crosses discussing ethnic purity and the superiority of their religious beliefs. I would not begin to assume those people are representative of Protestants or Southerners. Doug is certainly one pompous, self-righteous SOB. 30 minutes of NPR each and every morning has the guy hating his own race. Hating his own race? How did you hallucinate that conclusion? |
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