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You can publically disagree with Bush all you want.


I can, but you apparently cannot

.... However, when you're a
US Senator, and you start sending emails to the intelligence communities of
enemy nations...emails that have the intent of undermining the authority of
the incumbent President...then you're a traitor.


Possibly so, did anybody do that?

The Kerry email that you quoted was 1- sent to news agencies 2- did not
have any intent of "undermining the authority of the incumbent President."

Looking at naked facts is apparently too embarrassing for your morality
& ethics...

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"DSK" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
You can publically disagree with Bush all you want.


I can, but you apparently cannot

.... However, when you're a
US Senator, and you start sending emails to the intelligence communities

of
enemy nations...emails that have the intent of undermining the authority

of
the incumbent President...then you're a traitor.


Possibly so, did anybody do that?

The Kerry email that you quoted was 1- sent to news agencies 2- did not
have any intent of "undermining the authority of the incumbent President."


Sure it did.

These are precisely the type of ones you use to undermine a leader:

'The current Administration's policies of unilateralism and rejection of
important international initiatives"

"actions and the attitudes demonstrated by the U.S. government over the past
three years have threatened the goodwill earned by presidents of both
parties over many decades and put many of our international relationships at
risk."

"restore our country's credibility in the eyes of the world"

" repair alliances with countries on every continent that have been so
damaged in the past few years"

"overcome tensions with others"

As a senator, he has no right to screw with our country's foreign policy.
If he wants to voice his concerns on the Senate floor, then that's his
right...and his responsibility. But to do it through an email to a foreign
news agency is traitorous.




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These are precisely the type of ones you use to undermine a leader:


Some policies NEED to be undermined.


'The current Administration's policies of unilateralism and rejection of
important international initiatives"

"actions and the attitudes demonstrated by the U.S. government over the

past
three years have threatened the goodwill earned by presidents of both
parties over many decades and put many of our international relationships

at
risk."

"restore our country's credibility in the eyes of the world"

" repair alliances with countries on every continent that have been so
damaged in the past few years"

"overcome tensions with others"


These are all positive goals. Why do you have a problem with them?


As a senator, he has no right to screw with our country's foreign policy.
If he wants to voice his concerns on the Senate floor, then that's his
right...and his responsibility. But to do it through an email to a

foreign
news agency is traitorous.


It's about time.


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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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These are precisely the type of ones you use to undermine a leader:


Some policies NEED to be undermined.


'The current Administration's policies of unilateralism and rejection of
important international initiatives"

"actions and the attitudes demonstrated by the U.S. government over the

past
three years have threatened the goodwill earned by presidents of both
parties over many decades and put many of our international

relationships
at
risk."

"restore our country's credibility in the eyes of the world"

" repair alliances with countries on every continent that have been so
damaged in the past few years"

"overcome tensions with others"


These are all positive goals. Why do you have a problem with them?


Because I feel as though our "damaged" credibility, damaged alliances, and
heightened tension is with countries that we shouldn't be reaching out to in
the first place. For instance, our supposed allies...France, Russia and
China...were secretly skirting the Iraqi arms embargo, and were making
under-the-table oil deals with Saddam should sanctions be removed. We don't
owe them an apology.

Meanwhile, Syria was sponsoring terrorist acts against Israel, laundering
money for Saddam, sending weapons to Iraq, and likely concealing Saddam's
WMD program. They are very likely next on our list after Iraq.

Iran also sponsors terrorist acts against our ally, Israel. They have also
been pursuing nuclear weapons, and have been inciting unrest in Iraq to
damage US resolve. They should and will be dealt with once Bush is
reelected.





As a senator, he has no right to screw with our country's foreign

policy.
If he wants to voice his concerns on the Senate floor, then that's his
right...and his responsibility. But to do it through an email to a

foreign
news agency is traitorous.


It's about time.


The only reason Kerry felt it was "time" is because it's an election year.
He's a blatant hypocrite who fully supported the removal of Saddam from
power...until it became politically convenient to oppose it.



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I'm going to use lots of white space here to make it simpler for you to
follow along. If it seems the message has ended, be sure to page down and
check first.

These are all positive goals. Why do you have a problem with them?


Because I feel as though our "damaged" credibility, damaged alliances, and
heightened tension is with countries that we shouldn't be reaching out to

in
the first place. For instance, our supposed allies...France, Russia and
China...were secretly skirting the Iraqi arms embargo, and were making
under-the-table oil deals with Saddam should sanctions be removed. We

don't
owe them an apology.


Translation: Profit-making entities were making oil deals which depended on
certain political outcomes. Are you stupid enough to think American
companies don't do that every single day, with every natural resource you
can name? Answer the question. Are you that stupid? It's yes or no.

White space. Room for you to think.
=========================



Meanwhile, Syria was sponsoring terrorist acts against Israel, laundering
money for Saddam, sending weapons to Iraq, and likely concealing Saddam's
WMD program. They are very likely next on our list after Iraq.


Are you stupid enough to lump Syria into the same category as France, Russia
and China? Yes or no?

White space. Room for you to think.
=========================




Iran also sponsors terrorist acts against our ally, Israel. They have

also
been pursuing nuclear weapons, and have been inciting unrest in Iraq to
damage US resolve. They should and will be dealt with once Bush is
reelected.


Pursuing nuclear weapons? Shut your cake hole. They're doing exactly what we
are - trying to expand their arsenal. On the spectrum of angels, we're the
closest thing to the devil.

Messing with Israel and inciting unrest in Iraq? Shut your cake hole. We do
that all the time in our hemisphere. Ever heard of Colombia, El Salvador or
Panama?? Who said we're the only country which can exert influence, peaceful
or otherwise?

White space. Room for you to think.
=========================



The only reason Kerry felt it was "time" is because it's an election year.
He's a blatant hypocrite who fully supported the removal of Saddam from
power...until it became politically convenient to oppose it.


I guess you get your hard-ons from seeing people killed. I think that falls
under the heading of "psychopath". I get excited be seeing people finessed.
Must be a function of maturity.




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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
On the spectrum of angels, we're the
closest thing to the devil.


I think that about sums up your feelings for our country.



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NOYB wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
On the spectrum of angels, we're the
closest thing to the devil.


I think that about sums up your feelings for our country.




You can hardly blame him; since the appointment of Bush, our country has
been going to hell in a handbasket.

--
Show George W. Bush the Door...in 2004.
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
On the spectrum of angels, we're the
closest thing to the devil.


I think that about sums up your feelings for our country.


Translation: You have no idea what our current nuclear program is about.
That sums up YOUR feelings about our country. One of the responsibilities of
a good citizen is to be informed. You are a traitor. Suitable only for
compost.


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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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I'm going to use lots of white space here to make it simpler for you to
follow along. If it seems the message has ended, be sure to page down and
check first.

These are all positive goals. Why do you have a problem with them?


Because I feel as though our "damaged" credibility, damaged alliances,

and
heightened tension is with countries that we shouldn't be reaching out

to
in
the first place. For instance, our supposed allies...France, Russia and
China...were secretly skirting the Iraqi arms embargo, and were making
under-the-table oil deals with Saddam should sanctions be removed. We

don't
owe them an apology.


Translation: Profit-making entities were making oil deals which depended

on
certain political outcomes. Are you stupid enough to think American
companies don't do that every single day, with every natural resource you
can name? Answer the question. Are you that stupid? It's yes or no.

White space. Room for you to think.
=========================



Meanwhile, Syria was sponsoring terrorist acts against Israel,

laundering
money for Saddam, sending weapons to Iraq, and likely concealing

Saddam's
WMD program. They are very likely next on our list after Iraq.


Are you stupid enough to lump Syria into the same category as France,

Russia
and China? Yes or no?

White space. Room for you to think.
=========================




Iran also sponsors terrorist acts against our ally, Israel. They have

also
been pursuing nuclear weapons, and have been inciting unrest in Iraq to
damage US resolve. They should and will be dealt with once Bush is
reelected.


Pursuing nuclear weapons? Shut your cake hole. They're doing exactly what

we
are - trying to expand their arsenal. On the spectrum of angels, we're the
closest thing to the devil.


This is the morally bankrupt liberals battle cry.

Bob


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"Robert White" wrote in message
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Pursuing nuclear weapons? Shut your cake hole. They're doing exactly

what
we
are - trying to expand their arsenal. On the spectrum of angels, we're

the
closest thing to the devil.


This is the morally bankrupt liberals battle cry.

Bob



We're breaking treaties WE fought hard for. What you YOU call that?




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