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Christopher Robin February 15th 04 06:54 AM

Clintons Continue Kerry Smear
 
By BRIAN FLYNN
in New York

THIS is the girl at the centre of a sex scandal that threatens
Democratic front-runner John Kerry's run for the White House.

Presidential hopeful Kerry, dubbed the new JFK, has denied claims he
had a two-year fling with brunette Alex Polier. Alex, 27, was a
cross-country runner and in the world affairs club at her Philadelphia
school.

One source said: "She was attractive, intelligent and one of the
leaders in her year."

She went on to graduate from Columbia University, New York, and met
Kerry, 60, as she began a career as a freelance journalist.



Denial ... John Kerry


But a probe was under way yesterday into allegations that twice-wed
Kerry seduced her after inviting her to join his campaign team in
spring 2001.

There is no evidence to support the claims. Dad-of-two Kerry was set
to seal the nomination to take on George Bush in the November election
when the allegations surfaced.

Alex, who is in Africa with her fiancé Yaron Schwartzman, refused to
comment.

thunder February 15th 04 11:15 AM

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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 22:54:37 -0800, Christopher Robin wrote:

By BRIAN FLYNN
in New York


"Clintons" continue Kerry smear? Here is a link to the story you cut &
pasted. I see *no* mention of the Clintons.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004071781,00.html


More links:

http://www.sirlinksalot.net/alexpolier.html

So far, Kerry denies it. The woman's parents deny it. The woman hasn't
as yet denied it, but she is in Kenya with her fiancee. It's going to be
a dirty campaign.


McCann February 15th 04 03:07 PM

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What the "Hell" does THIS have to do with boats ? Give us a break will Ya !




"Christopher Robin" wrote in message
om...
By BRIAN FLYNN
in New York

THIS is the girl at the centre of a sex scandal that threatens
Democratic front-runner John Kerry's run for the White House.

Presidential hopeful Kerry, dubbed the new JFK, has denied claims he
had a two-year fling with brunette Alex Polier. Alex, 27, was a
cross-country runner and in the world affairs club at her Philadelphia
school.

One source said: "She was attractive, intelligent and one of the
leaders in her year."

She went on to graduate from Columbia University, New York, and met
Kerry, 60, as she began a career as a freelance journalist.



Denial ... John Kerry


But a probe was under way yesterday into allegations that twice-wed
Kerry seduced her after inviting her to join his campaign team in
spring 2001.

There is no evidence to support the claims. Dad-of-two Kerry was set
to seal the nomination to take on George Bush in the November election
when the allegations surfaced.

Alex, who is in Africa with her fiancé Yaron Schwartzman, refused to
comment.




John Gaquin February 15th 04 03:54 PM

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"thunder" wrote in message

"Clintons" continue Kerry smear? Here is a link to the story you cut &
pasted. I see *no* mention of the Clintons.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004071781,00.html


My boat is fine. Spring will be here soon.

BTW, just because *you* can't see past the trees doesn't mean that others
can't, or that there's nothing there.



Harry Krause February 15th 04 04:24 PM

My Boat & Clintons Continue Kerry Smear
 
John Gaquin wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message

"Clintons" continue Kerry smear? Here is a link to the story you cut &
pasted. I see *no* mention of the Clintons.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004071781,00.html


My boat is fine. Spring will be here soon.

BTW, just because *you* can't see past the trees doesn't mean that others
can't, or that there's nothing there.



The American public is looking at Bush as it never has before, and it is
concluding there is nothing there...but a scheming liar, easily
manipulated by his handlers.


--
Email sent to is never read.

jps February 15th 04 05:36 PM

My Boat & Clintons Continue Kerry Smear
 
In article ,
says...

"thunder" wrote in message

"Clintons" continue Kerry smear? Here is a link to the story you cut &
pasted. I see *no* mention of the Clintons.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004071781,00.html

My boat is fine. Spring will be here soon.

BTW, just because *you* can't see past the trees doesn't mean that others
can't, or that there's nothing there.


Look out John, your ABOUT TO RUN INTO A TREEE!!!......KLUNK!

So much for looking past the trees.

I'm *sure* the Clintons care more about getting Bush out of office than
getting her the presidency.

Bush is toast.

Calif Bill February 15th 04 06:57 PM

My Boat & Clintons Continue Kerry Smear
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"thunder" wrote in message

"Clintons" continue Kerry smear? Here is a link to the story you cut

&
pasted. I see *no* mention of the Clintons.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004071781,00.html

My boat is fine. Spring will be here soon.

BTW, just because *you* can't see past the trees doesn't mean that

others
can't, or that there's nothing there.


Look out John, your ABOUT TO RUN INTO A TREEE!!!......KLUNK!

So much for looking past the trees.

I'm *sure* the Clintons care more about getting Bush out of office than
getting her the presidency.

Bush is toast.


Clinton's worse nightmare is Kerry! If Bush is out, they lose control of
the Democratic party machine. The Democrat President gets to appoint the
party chair, and you think that they want their man out when they are
scheming on getting Hillary nominated in 2008?



jps February 15th 04 07:27 PM

My Boat & Clintons Continue Kerry Smear
 
In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message


Bush is toast.


Clinton's worse nightmare is Kerry! If Bush is out, they lose control of
the Democratic party machine. The Democrat President gets to appoint the
party chair, and you think that they want their man out when they are
scheming on getting Hillary nominated in 2008?


I think you're getting your Republican propaganda on Kerry confused with
the Republican propaganda about Dean.

Dean is the one who wants to wrest control of the Democratic party from
the status quo. Kerry is part of that establishment.

I don't think the Clintons are as selfish as you assume.

jps

Harry Krause February 15th 04 08:56 PM

My Boat & Clintons Continue Kerry Smear
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"thunder" wrote in message

"Clintons" continue Kerry smear? Here is a link to the story you cut


&

pasted. I see *no* mention of the Clintons.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004071781,00.html

My boat is fine. Spring will be here soon.

BTW, just because *you* can't see past the trees doesn't mean that


others

can't, or that there's nothing there.


Look out John, your ABOUT TO RUN INTO A TREEE!!!......KLUNK!

So much for looking past the trees.

I'm *sure* the Clintons care more about getting Bush out of office than
getting her the presidency.

Bush is toast.



Clinton's worse nightmare is Kerry! If Bush is out, they lose control of
the Democratic party machine. The Democrat President gets to appoint the
party chair, and you think that they want their man out when they are
scheming on getting Hillary nominated in 2008?


You need to smoke a better brand of dope.


Harry Krause February 15th 04 09:20 PM

My Boat & Clintons Continue Kerry Smear
 
John Gaquin wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

I'm *sure* the Clintons care more about getting Bush out of office than
getting her the presidency.



I truly, surely, sincerely hope that the preponderance of democrats are as
blind as you!




Gotta love it...the reichwingers are just beginning to get really
nervous that their dumb boy in the White House is going to lose his
fall. How delightful.

As for Hillary, I'd vote for her, but I don't see her as the nominee.
She sure scares the crap out of Republicans, though, and for that she
deserves allocades.


John Gaquin February 15th 04 09:23 PM

My Boat & Clintons Continue Kerry Smear
 

"jps" wrote in message

I'm *sure* the Clintons care more about getting Bush out of office than
getting her the presidency.


I truly, surely, sincerely hope that the preponderance of democrats are as
blind as you!



Calif Bill February 16th 04 12:15 AM

My Boat & Clintons Continue Kerry Smear
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

I'm *sure* the Clintons care more about getting Bush out of office than
getting her the presidency.



I truly, surely, sincerely hope that the preponderance of democrats are

as
blind as you!




Gotta love it...the reichwingers are just beginning to get really
nervous that their dumb boy in the White House is going to lose his
fall. How delightful.

As for Hillary, I'd vote for her, but I don't see her as the nominee.
She sure scares the crap out of Republicans, though, and for that she
deserves allocades.



Maybe she deserves accolades in your opinion. But I see absolutely nothing
presidential in her! What executive leadership positions? What has she
accomplished outside of forgetting legal papers?



John Gaquin February 16th 04 12:34 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message

Gotta love it...the reichwingers are just beginning to get really
nervous that their dumb boy in the White House is going to lose his
fall. How delightful.


My boat is doing fine, and I'm looking forward to launching.

Oh, BTW, not nervous, really -- anyone with more than a room-temp IQ
realized that this fall's election would be close. My post only pointed out
that it would be convenient if all dems were as short-sighted as jps re the
political plays going on around us.


As for Hillary, I'd vote for her, but I don't see her as the nominee.


If the Reps implode, and a Dem win looks likely, I think Hill will somehow
engineer a Kerry fade and a draft movement.

She sure scares the crap out of Republicans .....


.....as she should out of *any* thinking American.




Harry Krause February 16th 04 12:45 AM

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John Gaquin wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

Gotta love it...the reichwingers are just beginning to get really
nervous that their dumb boy in the White House is going to lose his
fall. How delightful.



My boat is doing fine, and I'm looking forward to launching.

Oh, BTW, not nervous, really -- anyone with more than a room-temp IQ
realized that this fall's election would be close. My post only pointed out
that it would be convenient if all dems were as short-sighted as jps re the
political plays going on around us.


As for Hillary, I'd vote for her, but I don't see her as the nominee.



If the Reps implode, and a Dem win looks likely, I think Hill will somehow
engineer a Kerry fade and a draft movement.


She sure scares the crap out of Republicans .....



....as she should out of *any* thinking American.



Why is that, John? She hasn't started any wars under false pretenses, as
your dumb boy bush has


John Gaquin February 16th 04 01:17 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:c0p448

Why is that, John? She hasn't started any wars under false pretenses.....


She (and her husband) are both confirmed secular humanists, which means, at
the simplest level, that their definition of ethical right and wrong will
bob and weave depending on what is required for them to accomplish whatever
is their current goal. Hillary has also clearly demonstrated, in practice
and writing, an unequivocal preference for large, broad-stroke government
program solutions, and for substantial redistribution of wealth via
government policy.

In short, she is the most powerful socialist this country has ever seen
close to the seat of power, and she somehow has a huge portion of the
population, particularly women, sucking down the kool-aid like kids at a
picnic. Damn right she scares me.....



Harry Krause February 16th 04 01:32 AM

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John Gaquin wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:c0p448


Why is that, John? She hasn't started any wars under false pretenses.....



She (and her husband) are both confirmed secular humanists, which means, at
the simplest level, that their definition of ethical right and wrong will
bob and weave depending on what is required for them to accomplish whatever
is their current goal.


Uh-huh. Is that the Rush Linmbaugh appellation and definition?


Hillary has also clearly demonstrated, in practice
and writing, an unequivocal preference for large, broad-stroke government
program solutions,


Is that sorta like making war on Afghanistan and Iraq? Certainly *that*
qualifies as a large, broad-stroke government program...if not a solution.


and for substantial redistribution of wealth via
government policy.


Yeah, well, we do need to tip the scale so it is balanced.



In short, she is the most powerful socialist this country has ever seen
close to the seat of power,


Wow! You are scared of her.



and she somehow has a huge portion of the
population, particularly women, sucking down the kool-aid like kids at a
picnic. Damn right she scares me.....



That's great. What's bad for you is good for America.

NOYB February 16th 04 01:54 AM

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:c0p448

Why is that, John? She hasn't started any wars under false

pretenses.....

She (and her husband) are both confirmed secular humanists, which means,

at
the simplest level, that their definition of ethical right and wrong will
bob and weave depending on what is required for them to accomplish

whatever
is their current goal. Hillary has also clearly demonstrated, in practice
and writing, an unequivocal preference for large, broad-stroke government
program solutions, and for substantial redistribution of wealth via
government policy.


I don't like her 'cause she's ugly and bush-bumps with other ugly
broads...but your reason is good, too.




Harry Krause February 16th 04 02:00 AM

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NOYB wrote:
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:c0p448


Why is that, John? She hasn't started any wars under false


pretenses.....

She (and her husband) are both confirmed secular humanists, which means,


at

the simplest level, that their definition of ethical right and wrong will
bob and weave depending on what is required for them to accomplish


whatever

is their current goal. Hillary has also clearly demonstrated, in practice
and writing, an unequivocal preference for large, broad-stroke government
program solutions, and for substantial redistribution of wealth via
government policy.



I don't like her 'cause she's ugly and bush-bumps with other ugly
broads...but your reason is good, too.




Yeah...no wonder you righties fear secular humanism. even though Hillary
Clinton ain't one.


What is Secular Humanism?

Secular humanism, or Secularism, is the religion of humanity; it
embraces the affairs of this world; it is interested in everything that
touches the welfare of a sentient being; it advocates attention to the
particular planet in which we happen to live; it means that each
individual counts for something; it is a declaration of intellectual
independence; it means that the pew is superior to the pulpit

Secularism means food and fireside, roof and raiment, reasonable work
and reasonable leisure, the cultivation of the tastes, the acquisition
of knowledge, the enjoyment of the arts, and it promises for the human
race comfort, independence, intelligence, and above all liberty. It
means the abolition of sectarian feuds, of theological hatreds. It means
the cultivation of friendship and intellectual hospitality. It means the
living for ourselves and each other; for the present instead of the
past, for this world rather than for another. It means the right to
express your thought in spite of popes, priests, and gods. It means that
impudent idleness shall no longer live upon the labor of honest men. It
means the destruction of the business of those who trade in fear. It
proposes to give serenity and content to the human soul. It will put out
the fires of eternal pain. It is striving to do away with violence and
vice, with ignorance, poverty and disease. It lives for the ever present
to-day, and the ever coming to- morrow. It does not believe in praying
and receiving, but in earning and deserving. It regards work as worship,
labor as prayer, and wisdom as the savior of mankind. It says to every
human being, Take care of yourself so that you may be able to help
others; adorn your life with the gems called good deeds; illumine your
path with the sunlight called friendship and love.

Secularism is a religion, a religion that is understood. It has no
mysteries, no mumblings, no priests, no ceremonies, no falsehoods, no
miracles, and no persecutions. It considers the lilies of the field, and
takes thought for the morrow. It says to the whole world, Work that you
may eat, drink, and be clothed; work that you may enjoy; work that you
may not want; work that you may give and never need.

Robert Green Ingersoll

John Gaquin February 16th 04 02:59 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message

What is Secular Humanism?

Secular humanism, or Secularism, is the religion of humanity; it
embraces the affairs of this world; ...... snip


Well, that's all well and good, except that its just a cut & paste of a 120
year old manifesto. Ingersoll died 105 years ago! Anyone who reads some of
their modern stuff ought to be rightly frightened for the future of our
schools, religious institutions, indeed the structure of our society.



Calif Bill February 16th 04 03:47 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:c0p448


Why is that, John? She hasn't started any wars under false

pretenses.....


She (and her husband) are both confirmed secular humanists, which means,

at
the simplest level, that their definition of ethical right and wrong

will
bob and weave depending on what is required for them to accomplish

whatever
is their current goal.


Uh-huh. Is that the Rush Linmbaugh appellation and definition?


Hillary has also clearly demonstrated, in practice
and writing, an unequivocal preference for large, broad-stroke

government
program solutions,


Is that sorta like making war on Afghanistan and Iraq? Certainly *that*
qualifies as a large, broad-stroke government program...if not a solution.



I seem to remember she and her husband blowing up a few places. Bosnia,
troops in Somalia, without proper equipment. Killed an aspirin factory.

and for substantial redistribution of wealth via
government policy.


Yeah, well, we do need to tip the scale so it is balanced.



You mean that you get more as you are an insider.


In short, she is the most powerful socialist this country has ever seen
close to the seat of power,


Wow! You are scared of her.



and she somehow has a huge portion of the
population, particularly women, sucking down the kool-aid like kids at a
picnic. Damn right she scares me.....



That's great. What's bad for you is good for America.


And whats bad for you is also good for America.

What executive leadership has she shown. Well, I admit, she did reorganize
the White House travel department.



jps February 16th 04 04:21 AM

My Boat & Clintons Continue Kerry Smear
 
In article ,
says...

"jps" wrote in message

I'm *sure* the Clintons care more about getting Bush out of office than
getting her the presidency.


I truly, surely, sincerely hope that the preponderance of democrats are as
blind as you!


Yeah, we're not nearly as realistic as you Republicans who say one thing
and do another.

-rick- February 16th 04 05:46 AM

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"John Gaquin" wrote...

She (and her husband) are both confirmed secular humanists, which means, at
the simplest level, that their definition of ethical right and wrong will
bob and weave depending on what is required for them to accomplish whatever
is their current goal.


That's a bizarre misrepresentation of secular humanism. Have you no shame or do
you completely underestimate the readers intelligence?

-rick-
--
Noun 1. secular humanism - the doctrine emphasizing a person's capacity for
self-realization through reason; rejects religion and the supernatural.
--



John Gaquin February 16th 04 05:59 AM

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"-rick-" wrote in message news:KridnQEOl-

That's a bizarre misrepresentation of secular humanism.


Not at all. Go do some reading. Not just a two-line dictionary entry.



basskisser February 16th 04 12:24 PM

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"thunder" wrote in message

"Clintons" continue Kerry smear? Here is a link to the story you cut &
pasted. I see *no* mention of the Clintons.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004071781,00.html


My boat is fine. Spring will be here soon.

BTW, just because *you* can't see past the trees doesn't mean that others
can't, or that there's nothing there.


I just love the right's use of wild allegations with no basis of fact.

basskisser February 16th 04 07:36 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message link.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

I'm *sure* the Clintons care more about getting Bush out of office than
getting her the presidency.


I truly, surely, sincerely hope that the preponderance of democrats are

as
blind as you!




Gotta love it...the reichwingers are just beginning to get really
nervous that their dumb boy in the White House is going to lose his
fall. How delightful.

As for Hillary, I'd vote for her, but I don't see her as the nominee.
She sure scares the crap out of Republicans, though, and for that she
deserves allocades.



Maybe she deserves accolades in your opinion. But I see absolutely nothing
presidential in her! What executive leadership positions? What has she
accomplished outside of forgetting legal papers?


She's getting very high marks in her state of NY.

basskisser February 18th 04 01:02 PM

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"NOYB" wrote in message .com...
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:c0p448

Why is that, John? She hasn't started any wars under false

pretenses.....

She (and her husband) are both confirmed secular humanists, which means,

at
the simplest level, that their definition of ethical right and wrong will
bob and weave depending on what is required for them to accomplish

whatever
is their current goal. Hillary has also clearly demonstrated, in practice
and writing, an unequivocal preference for large, broad-stroke government
program solutions, and for substantial redistribution of wealth via
government policy.


I don't like her 'cause she's ugly and bush-bumps with other ugly
broads...but your reason is good, too.



There you go, showing your dim-wittedness again.

Calif Bill February 19th 04 06:05 AM

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"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

link.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

I'm *sure* the Clintons care more about getting Bush out of office

than
getting her the presidency.


I truly, surely, sincerely hope that the preponderance of democrats

are
as
blind as you!




Gotta love it...the reichwingers are just beginning to get really
nervous that their dumb boy in the White House is going to lose his
fall. How delightful.

As for Hillary, I'd vote for her, but I don't see her as the nominee.
She sure scares the crap out of Republicans, though, and for that she
deserves allocades.



Maybe she deserves accolades in your opinion. But I see absolutely

nothing
presidential in her! What executive leadership positions? What has she
accomplished outside of forgetting legal papers?


She's getting very high marks in her state of NY.


Not from all the people!
http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/nyspolls/GV0401.pdf

First time her approval rating has been over 50%.



basskisser February 19th 04 12:07 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:1nYYb.9850
Maybe she deserves accolades in your opinion. But I see absolutely

nothing
presidential in her! What executive leadership positions? What has she
accomplished outside of forgetting legal papers?


She's getting very high marks in her state of NY.


Not from all the people!
http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/nyspolls/GV0401.pdf

First time her approval rating has been over 50%.


Please, Bill, will you LEARN to comprehend what you read? Where to
HELL did I say ALL PEOPLE?? You should know, that for a politician to
get 50% approval rating is VERY good.

Steven Shelikoff February 19th 04 01:53 PM

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On 19 Feb 2004 04:07:07 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:1nYYb.9850
Maybe she deserves accolades in your opinion. But I see absolutely

nothing
presidential in her! What executive leadership positions? What has she
accomplished outside of forgetting legal papers?

She's getting very high marks in her state of NY.


Not from all the people!
http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/nyspolls/GV0401.pdf

First time her approval rating has been over 50%.


Please, Bill, will you LEARN to comprehend what you read? Where to
HELL did I say ALL PEOPLE?? You should know, that for a politician to
get 50% approval rating is VERY good.


http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

VERY good, huh?

Steve

NOYB February 19th 04 05:22 PM

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"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 19 Feb 2004 04:07:07 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message

news:1nYYb.9850
Maybe she deserves accolades in your opinion. But I see absolutely
nothing
presidential in her! What executive leadership positions? What

has she
accomplished outside of forgetting legal papers?

She's getting very high marks in her state of NY.

Not from all the people!
http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/nyspolls/GV0401.pdf

First time her approval rating has been over 50%.


Please, Bill, will you LEARN to comprehend what you read? Where to
HELL did I say ALL PEOPLE?? You should know, that for a politician to
get 50% approval rating is VERY good.


http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

VERY good, huh?


Hehehe



Calif Bill February 19th 04 07:02 PM

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"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 19 Feb 2004 04:07:07 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message

news:1nYYb.9850
Maybe she deserves accolades in your opinion. But I see absolutely
nothing
presidential in her! What executive leadership positions? What

has she
accomplished outside of forgetting legal papers?

She's getting very high marks in her state of NY.

Not from all the people!
http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/nyspolls/GV0401.pdf

First time her approval rating has been over 50%.


Please, Bill, will you LEARN to comprehend what you read? Where to
HELL did I say ALL PEOPLE?? You should know, that for a politician to
get 50% approval rating is VERY good.


http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

VERY good, huh?

Steve


Checkmate!



Butch Ammon February 19th 04 09:05 PM

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*applause* *applause*!!!!!

Bush in '04. It's in the bag.

Butch Ammon

Don White February 19th 04 09:22 PM

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I wouldn't be celebrating too much.
I hear Harry has very expensive taste in restaurants when someone else is
buying. :-)

Butch Ammon wrote in message
...
*applause* *applause*!!!!!

Bush in '04. It's in the bag.

Butch Ammon




Harry Krause February 19th 04 10:54 PM

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Butch Ammon wrote:

*applause* *applause*!!!!!

Bush in '04. It's in the bag.

Butch Ammon


Looking more doubtful every day.

Harry Krause February 19th 04 10:55 PM

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Don White wrote:

I wouldn't be celebrating too much.
I hear Harry has very expensive taste in restaurants when someone else is
buying. :-)

Butch Ammon wrote in message
...
*applause* *applause*!!!!!

Bush in '04. It's in the bag.

Butch Ammon




Indeed, but not when a working stiff like me is buying. I'm sure Butch
and I will pick good, but decently priced restaurants.

Bert Robbins February 19th 04 11:33 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't be celebrating too much.
I hear Harry has very expensive taste in restaurants when someone else is
buying. :-)


Typical of a liberal, spend everybody else's money like its free.

Bert



Harry Krause February 19th 04 11:38 PM

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Bert Robbins wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't be celebrating too much.
I hear Harry has very expensive taste in restaurants when someone else is
buying. :-)


Typical of a liberal, spend everybody else's money like its free.

Bert



Have you always been a creepy ass, Bertie, or were you simply always
turned down for dates?

Christopher Robin February 20th 04 05:30 PM

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Harry Krause wrote in message ...
John Gaquin wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message

"Clintons" continue Kerry smear? Here is a link to the story you cut &
pasted. I see *no* mention of the Clintons.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004071781,00.html


My boat is fine. Spring will be here soon.

BTW, just because *you* can't see past the trees doesn't mean that others
can't, or that there's nothing there.



The American public is looking at Bush as it never has before, and it is
concluding there is nothing there...but a scheming liar, easily
manipulated by his handlers.



One doesn't have to be a supporter of George Bush to be able to tell
that he is getting a raw deal. Some of the charges being leveled
against him are so thin as to be nearly transparent, yet somehow, they
find legs in the court of public opinion.

Recently, DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe charged that Bush was AWOL from
his military service with the Texas National Guard. (For the record,
Terry McAuliffe never served in the military in any capacity.)

John Kerry ran with that theme, suggesting that by serving as a
fighter pilot in the National Guard, Bush was shirking combat duty in
Vietnam. (That doesn't say much for the National Guard.) In any case,
Bush was a fighter pilot, not a cook. It is only slightly less
dangerous to fly a fighter jet in combat than it is in peacetime.

I found it fascinating that the same folks who defended Bill Clinton's
obvious draft-dodging tactics now condemn George Bush for serving
without going to Vietnam. The fact that Bush received an honorable
discharge and had more than the required 50 credits needed to earn it
is dwarfed by the cacophony of charges that say the exact opposite.

John Kerry was among Bill Clinton's staunchest defenders of draft
dodging. Kerry himself was so opposed to the war that, upon his return
from Vietnam, he earned the nickname "Hanoi John."

If Kerry was so philosophically against the war, how can he disparage
Bush for not participating in what Kerry described in 1972 as a war in
which American soldiers "personally raped, cut off ears, cut off
heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and
turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at
civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan, shot
cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged
the countryside of South Vietnam"? That's the Vietnam War Kerry
described to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in April 1971.

If what Kerry alleged is true, then why would he suggest that a
possible experience with rape, torture and brutality is a necessary
qualification for president? Unless Kerry didn't really believe what
he was saying back then. Or doesn't believe it now.

I submit that if Bush had served in Vietnam, Kerry would be running on
his opposition to the war in Vietnam, instead of his service in it.
The media is trying to make a case out of Bush being discharged eight
months before his six-year term with the Guard was up as if that were
unusual in 1973 or involved pulling strings.

Watching Scott McClelland answer the White House press corps was a
study in frustration. The press corps didn't want to be bothered by
the facts; their minds were already made up.

But has anybody noted that Kerry got out of the Navy eight months
early for the same reasons? The war was being phased out. Yet I don't
hear anybody talking about that.

Bush has been accused of lying about why we got involved in the Iraq
war. Has anybody questioned the fact that France, Germany, the U.N.
and even John Kerry reached the same conclusions that Bush did, based
on the same intelligence? Does anybody really believe Bush had
information even the CIA didn't have, and then ignored it? Where did
Bush get this information?

Bush has been accused of "betraying" America by a clearly demented Al
Gore who charged that Bush was preparing for the war with Iraq even
before 9-11. Is it likely that, having adopted a policy of regime
change in 1998, the Clinton administration didn't have a similar war
plan already in place?

The war with Iraq should have been one of the most easily justified in
American history. Saddam defied the U.N. and committed 17 violations
of Security Council resolutions in the 12 years between the wars.

Even the president's critics are not arguing that Saddam should still
be in power in Baghdad. Instead, they say the White House acted
"unilaterally" – a charge belied by the fact there exists a
"coalition" of nations. It exists now, and it existed before the war
began, and troops from a dozen countries have given their lives to
free the Iraqi people. If it was American "unilateralism," what were
they doing there when they were killed?

The Democrats are openly admitting that this election isn't about
domestic issues, the war with Iraq or the economy. It's about
"electability" – meaning whoever has the best chance of beating Bush.
If Howdy Doody had a chance of defeating Bush, he'd be their
candidate.

Politics is a rough business. But this isn't about politics. It isn't
even about what's best for America. It's all about getting revenge for
Election 2000.

But remember, that was the election that guaranteed Al Gore was not in
charge on Sept. 11, 2001.

Does anybody really think that was a bad thing?

basskisser February 20th 04 08:16 PM

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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 19 Feb 2004 04:07:07 -0800,
(basskisser) wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:1nYYb.9850
Maybe she deserves accolades in your opinion. But I see absolutely

nothing
presidential in her! What executive leadership positions? What has she
accomplished outside of forgetting legal papers?

She's getting very high marks in her state of NY.

Not from all the people!
http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/nyspolls/GV0401.pdf

First time her approval rating has been over 50%.


Please, Bill, will you LEARN to comprehend what you read? Where to
HELL did I say ALL PEOPLE?? You should know, that for a politician to
get 50% approval rating is VERY good.


http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

VERY good, huh?

Steve


Yes, dumb ass. I suppose I'll have to explain that to you, huh? Jeez,
you asshole conservatives seem to get dumber by the damned minute.
Hint, a 50% rating is a high rating. There are no opinions, no
comments, refuse to participate, etc. etc. built in. If there were,
say 5 variables in a particular rating, an average would be 20%. 50%
would be VERY good.

basskisser February 20th 04 08:16 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net...
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
On 19 Feb 2004 04:07:07 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message

news:1nYYb.9850
Maybe she deserves accolades in your opinion. But I see absolutely

nothing
presidential in her! What executive leadership positions? What

has she
accomplished outside of forgetting legal papers?

She's getting very high marks in her state of NY.

Not from all the people!
http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/nyspolls/GV0401.pdf

First time her approval rating has been over 50%.

Please, Bill, will you LEARN to comprehend what you read? Where to
HELL did I say ALL PEOPLE?? You should know, that for a politician to
get 50% approval rating is VERY good.


http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

VERY good, huh?

Steve


Checkmate!


See my reply to Steve, you senile old goat.


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