Hey, stupid...it's the economy...
 

On 13 Feb 2004 07:26:47 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:

First-time unemployment claims for the first full week of February were
at 363,000, more than the 345,000 expected by Wall Street and 6,000
higher than the previous week.

Nice recovery you got going, Dubya...

With the price of fuel, there will have to be car pools to the polls.


$1.65 today for regular. Thanks, Dubya.

Geez...it was a $1.62 in June, 2000. You're gonna whine about a three cent
increase in 4 years?

If you want to talk June 2000, the peak average week in June 2000
national average of all grades all formulations was the week of June 19,
2000 at $1.711. It's currently $1.681 and trending up. It was only
$1.509 mid December 2003.

But, what was it in February of 2000? It can hardly be called whining,
when you, like the rest of BushCo, spin like that! You just pick what
statistics you choose, huh? Just remember, that can be done in
reverse, too. Would you like an example?

Peak national average week in Feb 2000 for all grades all formulations
was $1.458 and trending up. First week in March 2000 was $1.539 and
peak week for March 2000 was $1.569.

Basically, it hasn't really changed much in the past 4 years especially
in inflation adjusted dollars and considering any increases in the state
taxes on gasoline.

Data from
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petro...s_history.html

Steve

Hey, stupid...it's the economy...
 

I am on the right coast.

A few years ago the US put tariffs on Canadian lumber, 2x4's specifically,
because your cost of production, harvesting and shipping, was lower than the
cost of our lumber. So, Canada's response was to drill a hole, ostensibly
for the electrical wire to go through, in each 2x4 and call it manufactured
lumber by passing the tariffs on unmanufactured lumber.

Bert


"Don White" wrote in message
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Sorry...don't know anything about that.
Which coast are you on?

Bert Robbins wrote in message
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Was that the 2x4's with the holes dirlled in them and called
manufactured
lumber?

Hey, stupid...it's the economy...
 

bb wrote in message . ..
On 12 Feb 2004 20:44:12 -0800, (nfisherman)
wrote:

It could be worse.

I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't imagine anything worse
than the smirking chimp in chief we've got running the show now, but
it appears about 47% of the population don't agree.

Yup, it's just opinion. No one's minds will change here. I don't
have to imagine anything worse. I lived through 8 years of worse.

If we had elected Captain Planet (Al Gore), he
would have implemented carbon taxes

No way to prove or disprove that opinion.

I don't have to prove it. I'm just going by what Al Gore said. He
strongly supported the Kyoto Treaty, which would have required
extremely high fuel taxes in order to reduce fuel consumption to the
required targets. Along with those high prices, what's left of our
manufacturing would have followed the cheap energy to China and
elsewhere. Why, because Kyoto didn't place any limitations on the
"developing" nations' energy use. If you accept the global warming
theory, then you have to admit that carbon emissions are bad no matter
what the country of origin. Kyoto was an attempt to level the
economic playing field more than an environmental treaty.

to save us from the global warming
myth

What part of the global warming situation do you think is a myth, and
why?

and we'd be paying over $3.00/gallon now.

IMO, the best thing that could happen is $5.00 a gallon gas, with
$4.95 of that consisting of taxes.

I'll never understand the logic that says that if a corporation sells
something that people want and the corporation makes a lot of money,
it's evil, but if government seizes even more money, it's wonderful.

Even at our appointed presidents

Oh give it a rest already.


pace of increased spending, we could balance the budget.

It'll never happen, both parties spend more than they take in. I'd be
all for reduced spending to balance the budget.

And, as an
added bonus, we could starve the very people who finance middle
eastern terrorists.

I suppose every SUV and recreational boat owner is guilty of
supporting terrorism because of their fuel consumption. Nonsense.
Where's your proof? Besides, how would impoverishing people make them
not want to kill us?

The only problem with that being it would involve
some short term self sacrifice from the American consuming public.

I don't mind sacrifice if it makes sense. Hell, I work for a living.
I sacrifice my wages until about the end of May every year, just to
pay my taxes. That's a sacrifice. You haven't explained how
crippling our economy for the sake of an unproven theory would provide
any benefit.



bb

Hey, stupid...it's the economy...
 

Canadians aren't that devious...the company must have an American owner. :-)

Bert Robbins wrote in message
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I am on the right coast.

A few years ago the US put tariffs on Canadian lumber, 2x4's specifically,
because your cost of production, harvesting and shipping, was lower than
the
cost of our lumber. So, Canada's response was to drill a hole, ostensibly
for the electrical wire to go through, in each 2x4 and call it
manufactured
lumber by passing the tariffs on unmanufactured lumber.

Bert

Hey, stupid...it's the economy...
 

"jps" wrote in message
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In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
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If the Saudis help us get rid of Dubya by keeping fuel prices high
while
preventing economic recovery, I'd be happy to pay $2.50 a gallon for
my
twin 454 gas hogs all summer long.

Imagine that! A democrat hoping for lousy economic conditions so that
his
party can benefit from them. You guys are a sick, demented bunch.


Because we don't think MONEY IS EVERYTHING like you jokers?

Wishing poor economic conditions on our country is despicable. You think
the wealthy are the ones who are hurt most by an economic downturn?

Hey, stupid...it's the economy...
 

"NOYB" wrote in message .com...
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
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If the Saudis help us get rid of Dubya by keeping fuel prices high
while
preventing economic recovery, I'd be happy to pay $2.50 a gallon for
my
twin 454 gas hogs all summer long.

Imagine that! A democrat hoping for lousy economic conditions so that
his
party can benefit from them. You guys are a sick, demented bunch.


Because we don't think MONEY IS EVERYTHING like you jokers?

Wishing poor economic conditions on our country is despicable. You think
the wealthy are the ones who are hurt most by an economic downturn?

NOYB, you forgot to call him a traitor. You know, anybody that says
anything anti-BushCo is a stinking traitor, remember?

Hey, stupid...it's the economy...
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
.com...
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

If the Saudis help us get rid of Dubya by keeping fuel prices high
while
preventing economic recovery, I'd be happy to pay $2.50 a gallon
for
my
twin 454 gas hogs all summer long.

Imagine that! A democrat hoping for lousy economic conditions so
that
his
party can benefit from them. You guys are a sick, demented bunch.


Because we don't think MONEY IS EVERYTHING like you jokers?

Wishing poor economic conditions on our country is despicable. You
think
the wealthy are the ones who are hurt most by an economic downturn?

NOYB, you forgot to call him a traitor. You know, anybody that says
anything anti-BushCo is a stinking traitor, remember?

Wishing harm on your on country, whether physically or economically, is
traitorous. So you're right. He *is* a traitor.

Hey, stupid...it's the economy...
 

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:06:05 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
.com...
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

If the Saudis help us get rid of Dubya by keeping fuel prices high
while
preventing economic recovery, I'd be happy to pay $2.50 a gallon
for
my
twin 454 gas hogs all summer long.

Imagine that! A democrat hoping for lousy economic conditions so
that
his
party can benefit from them. You guys are a sick, demented bunch.


Because we don't think MONEY IS EVERYTHING like you jokers?

Wishing poor economic conditions on our country is despicable. You
think
the wealthy are the ones who are hurt most by an economic downturn?

NOYB, you forgot to call him a traitor. You know, anybody that says
anything anti-BushCo is a stinking traitor, remember?

Wishing harm on your on country, whether physically or economically, is
traitorous. So you're right. He *is* a traitor.


So, by your thinking, since Bush has harmed the United States in many
ways since presuming office, he is a traitor. Kind of simple minded.

Come on Harry, I'm disappointed in your comprehension skills shown
above. There's a big difference between a person who wishes harm on his
country and someone who just doesn't agree with policy.

Steve

Hey, stupid...it's the economy...
 

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:06:05 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
.com...
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

If the Saudis help us get rid of Dubya by keeping fuel prices
high
while
preventing economic recovery, I'd be happy to pay $2.50 a
gallon
for
my
twin 454 gas hogs all summer long.

Imagine that! A democrat hoping for lousy economic conditions
so
that
his
party can benefit from them. You guys are a sick, demented
bunch.


Because we don't think MONEY IS EVERYTHING like you jokers?

Wishing poor economic conditions on our country is despicable. You
think
the wealthy are the ones who are hurt most by an economic downturn?

NOYB, you forgot to call him a traitor. You know, anybody that says
anything anti-BushCo is a stinking traitor, remember?

Wishing harm on your on country, whether physically or economically, is
traitorous. So you're right. He *is* a traitor.


So, by your thinking, since Bush has harmed the United States in many
ways since presuming office, he is a traitor. Kind of simple minded.

Come on Harry, I'm disappointed in your comprehension skills shown
above. There's a big difference between a person who wishes harm on his
country and someone who just doesn't agree with policy.

Precisely. "Intent" is the difference between a crime and an acquittal. If
you shoot and kill someone with a gun, you only go to jail if there was
intent to cause harm. Improper handling of a firearm rarely leads to jail
time.

Hey, stupid...it's the economy...
 

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:15:08 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Steven Shelikoff wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:06:05 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
.com...
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

If the Saudis help us get rid of Dubya by keeping fuel prices high
while
preventing economic recovery, I'd be happy to pay $2.50 a gallon
for
my
twin 454 gas hogs all summer long.

Imagine that! A democrat hoping for lousy economic conditions so
that
his
party can benefit from them. You guys are a sick, demented bunch.


Because we don't think MONEY IS EVERYTHING like you jokers?

Wishing poor economic conditions on our country is despicable. You
think
the wealthy are the ones who are hurt most by an economic downturn?

NOYB, you forgot to call him a traitor. You know, anybody that says
anything anti-BushCo is a stinking traitor, remember?

Wishing harm on your on country, whether physically or economically, is
traitorous. So you're right. He *is* a traitor.


So, by your thinking, since Bush has harmed the United States in many
ways since presuming office, he is a traitor. Kind of simple minded.

Come on Harry, I'm disappointed in your comprehension skills shown
above. There's a big difference between a person who wishes harm on his
country and someone who just doesn't agree with policy.

At the moment, I am more concerned with a President who has done great
harm to my country, and it isn't just a matter of "policy."

Of course it's just a matter of policy, one you don't agree with. Well
over half the country currently thinks he has not done a great deal of
harm to the country and that we are much better off today then we would
be if the 2000 election had gone the other way.

Steve