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Just How Safe Do You Feel?
Steven Shelikoff wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:07:25 -0400, Steven Shelikoff wrote: On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 13:35:39 -0400, Dave Hall wrote: But at what point is it "viable". I've known of cases of premature births at 5 months that lived. I'm sure there are other "record" cases as well. So where do you draw that important line? That's a good question. The answer of which, is the nucleus of this whole debate. It's much It's not at the nucleus of this debate you're having with me. In fact, it's totally superfluous. Oops, forget I said that. The thread was getting so long I was responding to a different part. Ideally, you'd draw the line where the fetus could survive on it's own without physical dependence on the mother. That's what most of the drawn lines are trying to achieve. But there's no sure fire way of know when the fetus possesses a conciouness, and a "soul", and therefore is considered an individual, and not just the product of the mother's genetics. Anyway, just to end this in some way, my only point to you is that you need to base your opinions on some sort of solid moral foundation. I believe that I have. I can respect your opinions more if they were consistent. The problem is that there is no consistency when it comes to the taking of life. Even the Bible provided certain cases where killing is justified (Such as in the case of war). In those cases, these "justified" killings, were in response to "bad" people, who, as long as they are alive, pose a threat to society. An unborn fetus, cannot be judged by the same criteria, so it is not justified. For instance, someone who believes that it's only God who can make a life or death decisions and base their opinions on that belief consistently, I can respect. I might not agree with them, but I can respect their opinions. On the other hand, if someone believes that man can rightfully make a life or death decision and doesn't reserve that strictly for God, and bases their opinions on that belief consistently, I can respect that as well. Again, I might not agree with them, but I can respect their opinions. But you are basing this on a philosophy of "all or nothing". There is very little in life, which falls into that catergory But, if someone believes that man has a right to make the life or death decisions in some cases but only God can make life or death decisions in other cases, and the cases just happen to arbitrarily line up to support a haphazard set of opinions, then I can't respect those opinions. I'm sure that doesn't bother you though. What you call "haphazard", I call "conditions". Life is full of conditions. There is no universal truth. "Evil" people truly deserve to be put to death. Innocent children (Born or unborn) do not. Dave |