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Filled up my 5 gal jug for my kerosene heater at a Texaco
station. Texaco is now Shell, as you know, so the remaining
Texacos are buying whatever slop fuel they want. The heater
BTU output was way reduced with this fuel, and the
combustion chamber was just a dull red, instead of the
normal cherry red. I ran that tank out, and got some diesel
from 76. The heater returned to it's former toasty self. I
never tanked up my '79 diesel Rabbit there, so I don't know
how it would have performed with that fuel(probably ****ty).
JR
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:50:11 -0800, JR North
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Filled up my 5 gal jug for my kerosene heater at a Texaco
station. Texaco is now Shell, as you know, so the remaining
Texacos are buying whatever slop fuel they want. The heater
BTU output was way reduced with this fuel, and the
combustion chamber was just a dull red, instead of the
normal cherry red. I ran that tank out, and got some diesel
from 76. The heater returned to it's former toasty self. I
never tanked up my '79 diesel Rabbit there, so I don't know
how it would have performed with that fuel(probably ****ty).


Yes - diesel can vary according to geographic location. For instance,
in colder climates, kerosene can be used to cut the diesel for betting
starting and anti-gelling abilities. There are also two types of
kerosene - one for buildings (non-taxed which will be red in color and
a different grade) and one for space heaters which is white and of a
purer quality, without anti-gelling/lubrication additives.

Ask me how I know this? Because I used the building type in a new
space heater that replaced the old worn out one in my wood shop and it
smoked like a SOB.

And I have a diesel pickup and have experienced any number of gelling
problems this winter even using additives.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
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"I thought I'd just go fishin', but the fish
were not amused. And I caught myself just
wishin' that I was in the fishes shoes. Just
swimmin' in some deep blue water not a care
in my head, watchin' some fool with a line
and a pole hidin' by the riverbed."

Joe Ely, "Back To My Old Molehill" - "Flatlanders,
Wheels of Fortune - 2004"
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Well, the '79 diesel rabbit, how can you tell when its not running "****ty"
..Maybe it would be a question of "****ty and ****tyer" . That was my first
diesel ( actually mine was about an '81-'82) still wonder, what was I
thinking. Good luck with the heater.

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Boat building web address is
www.concentric.net/~knotreel


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The '78-'79 Rabbit diesels were German made (round
headlights). Heads and tails above the later US built square
headlight models in quality. The head gasket blowing 1.6 in
your Rabbit was nowhere near as reliable and smooth as the
1.5 in mine. The US cars buzzed and rattled like crazy from
the engine vibration. The German cars are much quieter and
solid.
So there...
BTW: got 60 mpg on a recent roadtrip to San Jose from
Seattle

Ron White wrote:

Well, the '79 diesel rabbit, how can you tell when its not running "****ty"
.Maybe it would be a question of "****ty and ****tyer" . That was my first
diesel ( actually mine was about an '81-'82) still wonder, what was I
thinking. Good luck with the heater.

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Boat building web address is
www.concentric.net/~knotreel




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I do remember ordering it waiting, a long time, then waiting again for
another one after the first one arrived at the dealership with shipping
damage. I was waiting for the five speed which was just out. Mine took a
loooong time to get to 60mph (never got more than about 30mpg) and it would.
after maybe 5 miles of "petal to the metal" , get to almost 70mph. After
start up in the am the dash vibrated so bad all the instruments were just a
blur. Now all those long forgotten memories are coming back.. As I recall
the engine was some sort of cobbled up gas engine with a diesel head/pistons
and an injection pump running off the timing belt. Flash forward to this
century, my new 6.0L powerstroke F250 ford, now that's more like it!!!

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"Ron White" wrote in message ...
I do remember ordering it waiting, a long time, then waiting again for
another one after the first one arrived at the dealership with shipping
damage. I was waiting for the five speed which was just out. Mine took a
loooong time to get to 60mph (never got more than about 30mpg) and it would.
after maybe 5 miles of "petal to the metal" , get to almost 70mph. After
start up in the am the dash vibrated so bad all the instruments were just a
blur. Now all those long forgotten memories are coming back.. As I recall
the engine was some sort of cobbled up gas engine with a diesel head/pistons
and an injection pump running off the timing belt. Flash forward to this
century, my new 6.0L powerstroke F250 ford, now that's more like it!!!



Yeah, the new 6.0L... it's great... when they run...
13 MPG...
Oil leaks from the bellhousing onto that nice driveway...
Vibrations like you wouldn't believe at 1500 to 2000 rpm..
Doors that rattle after 2 weeks of driving....
Wandering steering that will get you a drunk driving ticket or killed, for sure..
A massive blind spot caused by the left hand drivers post...
and the list goes on and on...
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OK we have someone who is anti Ford Powerstroke. Whats your choice on
diesels? Chev or Dodge or just stick to gas. I have heard horror stories
on both diesels. I will be in the market in the near future for a 3/4 or 1
ton truck.

"rudy" wrote in message
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"Ron White" wrote in message

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I do remember ordering it waiting, a long time, then waiting again for
another one after the first one arrived at the dealership with shipping
damage. I was waiting for the five speed which was just out. Mine took a
loooong time to get to 60mph (never got more than about 30mpg) and it

would.
after maybe 5 miles of "petal to the metal" , get to almost 70mph. After
start up in the am the dash vibrated so bad all the instruments were

just a
blur. Now all those long forgotten memories are coming back.. As I

recall
the engine was some sort of cobbled up gas engine with a diesel

head/pistons
and an injection pump running off the timing belt. Flash forward to this
century, my new 6.0L powerstroke F250 ford, now that's more like it!!!



Yeah, the new 6.0L... it's great... when they run...
13 MPG...
Oil leaks from the bellhousing onto that nice driveway...
Vibrations like you wouldn't believe at 1500 to 2000 rpm..
Doors that rattle after 2 weeks of driving....
Wandering steering that will get you a drunk driving ticket or killed, for

sure..
A massive blind spot caused by the left hand drivers post...
and the list goes on and on...



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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 19:36:55 -0800, JR North
wrote:

The '78-'79 Rabbit diesels were German made (round
headlights). Heads and tails above the later US built square
headlight models in quality. The head gasket blowing 1.6 in
your Rabbit was nowhere near as reliable and smooth as the
1.5 in mine. The US cars buzzed and rattled like crazy from
the engine vibration. The German cars are much quieter and
solid.
So there...
BTW: got 60 mpg on a recent roadtrip to San Jose from
Seattle

Ron White wrote:


Holy ****. So that's what was wrong with my '81 Rabbit. I thought it
was supposed to be a good German car. I experienced all of the
problems you describe, including the blown head gaskets...
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JR North wrote in message ...
Filled up my 5 gal jug for my kerosene heater at a Texaco
station. Texaco is now Shell, as you know, so the remaining
Texacos are buying whatever slop fuel they want. The heater
BTU output was way reduced with this fuel, and the
combustion chamber was just a dull red, instead of the
normal cherry red. I ran that tank out, and got some diesel
from 76. The heater returned to it's former toasty self. I
never tanked up my '79 diesel Rabbit there, so I don't know
how it would have performed with that fuel(probably ****ty).
JR


Kerosene and diesel fuel aren't the same. If it's a kerosene heater,
you should use kerosene, unless otherwise stated. I have a KeroSun
heater in my garage, and it works beautifully on Kerosene, and the
better the Kerosene the better it burns. I'm sure it would soot up,
etc. with diesel fuel.
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