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Doug Kanter February 11th 04 09:07 PM

OT Bush hatred
 
You know how Cato used to jump out of closets & armoirs to attack inspector
Clousseau in the Pink Panther movies? My son did that to me last night, just
for grins. After wrestling for a couple of minutes, I went to grab his arm
REALLY fast. He moved the arm, and I basically slugged what was behind it -
his hip bone. Crunch. He thinks it's funny. But, he requested steak for
dinner tomorrow - the perfect accompaniment to "NYPD Blue". He doesn't
realize yet, but he's making dinner while I kick back with a bourbon. :-) I
might advise him with lighting the charcoal, but then again, he might look
good with cajun blackened hair.

Gee...I'm typng from 24" away with my pecker, and I'm still a better writer
than Dave Hall. :-)

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Do we dare ask you what you were doing?

Doug Kanter wrote in message
...

Because I fractured a bone in my hand last night and I'm trying to type

with
a cast on, I'll let you get away with that silly comment for now. But

I'll
be back for you, Mr Molar. :-)







Doug Kanter February 11th 04 09:08 PM

OT Bush hatred
 
Mr Molar, I'd need a frontal lobotomy to make a discussion fair for YOU. :-)

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...
Sorry about your hand...
I'll leave you alone for now. It certainly wouldn't be a fair fight with
you only having one hand.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"thunder" wrote in message
...
Now, do you want to talk about my subsidizing your raising children
(tax deduction for children)? ;-)

A tax credit or tax deduction is *not* a subsidy. I'm only getting

back
money I shouldn't have paid in the first place...but it's still my

money.



Because I fractured a bone in my hand last night and I'm trying to type

with
a cast on, I'll let you get away with that silly comment for now. But

I'll
be back for you, Mr Molar. :-)







NOYB February 11th 04 09:21 PM

OT Bush hatred
 


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Mr Molar, I'd need a frontal lobotomy to make a discussion fair for YOU.

:-)

You mean, you didn't have one awhile ago? Coulda' fooled me. ;-)



Doug Kanter February 11th 04 09:36 PM

OT Bush hatred
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Mr Molar, I'd need a frontal lobotomy to make a discussion fair for YOU.

:-)

You mean, you didn't have one awhile ago? Coulda' fooled me. ;-)



drum crash



Don White February 11th 04 09:38 PM

OT Bush hatred
 
I used to rough house with my # 2 guy but he kind of outgrew me. I may have
to get back into the gym or at least buy a Bowflex and toughten up.


Doug Kanter wrote in message
...
You know how Cato used to jump out of closets & armoirs to attack

inspector
Clousseau in the Pink Panther movies? My son did that to me last night,

just
for grins. After wrestling for a couple of minutes, I went to grab his arm
REALLY fast. He moved the arm, and I basically slugged what was behind

it -
his hip bone. Crunch. He thinks it's funny. But, he requested steak for
dinner tomorrow - the perfect accompaniment to "NYPD Blue". He doesn't
realize yet, but he's making dinner while I kick back with a bourbon. :-)

I
might advise him with lighting the charcoal, but then again, he might look
good with cajun blackened hair.

Gee...I'm typng from 24" away with my pecker, and I'm still a better

writer
than Dave Hall. :-)

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Do we dare ask you what you were doing?

Doug Kanter wrote in message
...

Because I fractured a bone in my hand last night and I'm trying to

type
with
a cast on, I'll let you get away with that silly comment for now. But

I'll
be back for you, Mr Molar. :-)









Harry Krause February 11th 04 11:30 PM

OT Bush hatred
 
NOYB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...
Now, do you want to talk about my subsidizing your raising children
(tax deduction for children)? ;-)


A tax credit or tax deduction is *not* a subsidy. I'm only getting back
money I shouldn't have paid in the first place...but it's still my money.


Of course a tax credit or deduction is a subsidy. You need a better
dictionary.

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DSK February 12th 04 01:23 AM

OT Bush hatred
 
NOYB wrote:

5) Disallow tax breaks for those attending private school



... For instance, if $5000 of my money goes to
education via taxes, then I'm being forced by the government to pay for my
kids to go to public school. That's socialism.


As usual, you have completely the wrong point of view. You totally forget that
your neighbor, who may not have kids, is paying the same amount as you to
support the public schools. So, you're just flat-out wrong... you are not "being
forced by the government to pay for your kids to go to public school." You are
paying for a level of public education, which goes to support the industrialized
high-tech community in which you live (persumably by choice, you could always go
live in a cave).


If I send 'em to private
school, I should be able to at least deduct the cost of the private school
from taxes...


Why should your neighbor with no kids, or grown kids, be forced to subsidize
sending your kids to private school? The whole issue of vouchers is one of
selfishness & stupidity. While I can understand the libertarian point of view,
which is to say that taxation for public schools is equal to theft, it is not
logical and denies the duty of the individual to support his community.

DSK


basskisser February 12th 04 05:48 PM

OT Bush hatred
 
Harry Krause wrote in message ...
NOYB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...
Now, do you want to talk about my subsidizing your raising children
(tax deduction for children)? ;-)


A tax credit or tax deduction is *not* a subsidy. I'm only getting back
money I shouldn't have paid in the first place...but it's still my money.


Of course a tax credit or deduction is a subsidy. You need a better
dictionary.


A tax credit is a subsidy? No more so than if you overpay any private
sector entity. It's my money, they are simply giving me back some of
my money. If you paid your car insurance, and after you sent the
payment in, the premium went down, so they send a portion of that back
to you, would you then say that the insurance company is subsidising
your next road trip?

NOYB February 12th 04 06:04 PM

OT Bush hatred
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
Harry Krause wrote in message

...
NOYB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...
Now, do you want to talk about my subsidizing your raising children
(tax deduction for children)? ;-)

A tax credit or tax deduction is *not* a subsidy. I'm only getting

back
money I shouldn't have paid in the first place...but it's still my

money.


Of course a tax credit or deduction is a subsidy. You need a better
dictionary.


A tax credit is a subsidy? No more so than if you overpay any private
sector entity. It's my money, they are simply giving me back some of
my money. If you paid your car insurance, and after you sent the
payment in, the premium went down, so they send a portion of that back
to you, would you then say that the insurance company is subsidising
your next road trip?


Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Stop the presses!!! basskisser and I agree
for once! I really like the insurance premium analogy. What's Harry have
to say about *that*?

(basskisser, please don't tell me that you thought *I* said a tax credit
isn't a subsidy. Harry is the one who said it)




DSK February 12th 04 06:23 PM

OT Bush hatred
 
basskisser wrote:


A tax credit is a subsidy? No more so than if you overpay any private
sector entity. It's my money, they are simply giving me back some of
my money.


That's one way to look at it, and in many cases it's correct. But in this particular case it's wrong
(explanation below).


If you paid your car insurance, and after you sent the
payment in, the premium went down, so they send a portion of that back
to you, would you then say that the insurance company is subsidising
your next road trip?


That depends on whether or not other motorists paying the same rate, in the same risk pool, to the same company,
did *not* get a refund. Which is exactly the case with public schools.

All citizens have certain obligations to their community... unless you want to live in a community of dunces,
with a decreased standard of living, then you are obligated to provide some support for the education of all
citizens... wether you have kids or not, wether you are paying private school tuition or not.

A tax voucher for private school tuition is a clever method to dodge civic duty... ironically, it's being touted
by the party who claims to have a higher sense of duty, accountability, responsibility, and overall morality. Go
figure!

Regards
Doug King



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