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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:43:21 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:23:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:55:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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What would please me greatly, would be that Terri Schivao, just
before
she passes on, wakes up, looks her husband and parents in the eye
and
says "You *******s".

Is was this post that led to my "black humor" Dominoes approach. It
seems
to me that her breath would be better spent ordering a meal is all.
:)

If her first choice in pizza was Dominoes, that would be proof she had
no
mind to speak of.

True - real pizza is only made at Pizza Hut.

I believe it may be illegal to say such a thing in Connecticut. I know
it
will get your legs broken in Long Island.

Odd - first time I ever ate at a Pizza Hut it was on Long Island.

Yeah, but nobody really goes there.

IF nobody goes there, why does it exist?

For people from the Midwest, or Washington DC, who think it's real pizza.

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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What would please me greatly, would be that Terri Schivao, just before
she passes on, wakes up, looks her husband and parents in the eye and
says "You *******s".

Is was this post that led to my "black humor" Dominoes approach. It seems
to me that her breath would be better spent ordering a meal is all. :)

-W



If her first choice in pizza was Dominoes, that would be proof she had no
mind to speak of.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:55:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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"Clams Canino" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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What would please me greatly, would be that Terri Schivao, just before
she passes on, wakes up, looks her husband and parents in the eye and
says "You *******s".

Is was this post that led to my "black humor" Dominoes approach. It
seems
to me that her breath would be better spent ordering a meal is all. :)

If her first choice in pizza was Dominoes, that would be proof she had no
mind to speak of.

True - real pizza is only made at Pizza Hut.

I believe it may be illegal to say such a thing in Connecticut. I know it
will get your legs broken in Long Island.

JimH wrote:
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How many perspectives can there be when all the brain above the stem is
gone?

Sciavo's injury deprived the brain of oxygen. For 15 years! The stem,
at the base of the brain, controls heart and respiratory functions and
can initiate some reflexive motions. There is no capacity for thought,
for emotion, or for learning. Few people would ever look at Terri S and
say, "Please leave me in that condition for as long as I can hang on if
I ever suffer the same fate." There has been testimony from several
people that before the accident Terri had expressed a preference for
death vs. life as a vegetable if she was ever in the state that she is
in now.

Sciavo's parents may be like the retired folks we all know who turn a
household pet into a surrogate child or grandchild. Referrring to
thenselves as the dog's "Mom" or "Dad", dressing it up in goofy
clothes, and organizing daily life around its every need doesn't change
the basic fact that the dog is a dog. A dog has far more cognitive
ability than Terri Sciavo's breathing corpse has now, or will ever have
in the future.

If a miracle worker walked into her hospital room, healed her severed
spine, and turned the fluid in her skull back into functioning brain
cells she'd recover. Short of that, nothing could be done. Couldn't the
same thing be said about every one of he hundreds of thousands of
people in the same or similar situation every year? Should we keep
everybody in a persistant vegetative state and with no (reasonable)
hope of recovery alive forever, wishing and hoping for a miracle?



Did you listen to the interviews?

No one can say for sure what her mental condition is. And there are now
many questions about Michael Shiavo's past treatment of Terri.

One has to err on the side of life when dealing with human life.



That's why Bush and DeLay passed a law in Texas giving hospitals the
right to "pull the plug" when things look hopeless (and parents have run
out of money)

"Texas law allows hospitals to discontinue life-sustaining treatment,
even if a patient's family members disagree, under certain circumstances.

Under the statute, "Life-sustaining treatment" means treatment that,
based on reasonable medical judgment, sustains the life of a patient and
without which the patient will die. The term includes both
life-sustaining medications and artificial life support, such as
mechanical breathing machines, kidney dialysis treatment, and artificial
nutrition and hydration. [V.T.C.A., Health & Safety Code § 166.002]

Under the law, "A patient's inability to pay for medical care combined
with a prognosis that renders further care futile are two reasons a
hospital might suggest cutting off life support". Chief medical officer
at St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital, Houston.

Last week, Sun, the 17-pound, nearly 6-month-old son of Wanda Hudson was
allowed to die in Houston's Texas Children's Hospital. Sun's death marks
the first time a U.S. judge has allowed a hospital to discontinue an
infant's life-sustaining care against a parent's wishes, according to
bioethical experts.

Another case involving a patient on life support — a 68-year-old man in
a chronic vegetative state whose family wants to stop St. Luke's
Episcopal Hospital from turning off his ventilator — is pending in Houston.

This statute was signed into law by then-governor George W. Bush.
Houston is in the Congressional District of GOP Whip Tom Delay. The same
Tom Delay who was the point man for the special law passed on behalf of
Terri Schiavo."

JimH wrote:
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How many perspectives can there be when all the brain above the stem is
gone?

Sciavo's injury deprived the brain of oxygen. For 15 years! The stem,
at the base of the brain, controls heart and respiratory functions and
can initiate some reflexive motions. There is no capacity for thought,
for emotion, or for learning. Few people would ever look at Terri S and
say, "Please leave me in that condition for as long as I can hang on if
I ever suffer the same fate." There has been testimony from several
people that before the accident Terri had expressed a preference for
death vs. life as a vegetable if she was ever in the state that she is
in now.

Sciavo's parents may be like the retired folks we all know who turn a
household pet into a surrogate child or grandchild. Referrring to
thenselves as the dog's "Mom" or "Dad", dressing it up in goofy
clothes, and organizing daily life around its every need doesn't change
the basic fact that the dog is a dog. A dog has far more cognitive
ability than Terri Sciavo's breathing corpse has now, or will ever have
in the future.

If a miracle worker walked into her hospital room, healed her severed
spine, and turned the fluid in her skull back into functioning brain
cells she'd recover. Short of that, nothing could be done. Couldn't the
same thing be said about every one of he hundreds of thousands of
people in the same or similar situation every year? Should we keep
everybody in a persistant vegetative state and with no (reasonable)
hope of recovery alive forever, wishing and hoping for a miracle?



Did you listen to the interviews?

No one can say for sure what her mental condition is. And there are now
many questions about Michael Shiavo's past treatment of Terri.

One has to err on the side of life when dealing with human life.



That's why Bush and DeLay passed a law in Texas giving hospitals the
right to "pull the plug" when things look hopeless (and parents have run
out of money)

"Texas law allows hospitals to discontinue life-sustaining treatment,
even if a patient's family members disagree, under certain circumstances.

Under the statute, "Life-sustaining treatment" means treatment that,
based on reasonable medical judgment, sustains the life of a patient and
without which the patient will die. The term includes both
life-sustaining medications and artificial life support, such as
mechanical breathing machines, kidney dialysis treatment, and artificial
nutrition and hydration. [V.T.C.A., Health & Safety Code § 166.002]

Under the law, "A patient's inability to pay for medical care combined
with a prognosis that renders further care futile are two reasons a
hospital might suggest cutting off life support". Chief medical officer
at St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital, Houston.

Last week, Sun, the 17-pound, nearly 6-month-old son of Wanda Hudson was
allowed to die in Houston's Texas Children's Hospital. Sun's death marks
the first time a U.S. judge has allowed a hospital to discontinue an
infant's life-sustaining care against a parent's wishes, according to
bioethical experts.

Another case involving a patient on life support — a 68-year-old man in
a chronic vegetative state whose family wants to stop St. Luke's
Episcopal Hospital from turning off his ventilator — is pending in Houston.

This statute was signed into law by then-governor George W. Bush.
Houston is in the Congressional District of GOP Whip Tom Delay. The same
Tom Delay who was the point man for the special law passed on behalf of
Terri Schiavo."

" Tuuk" wrote in message
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kanter

What are you ,, on drugs??? you posted 5 times,,,

You claim to have so much experience in economics and boats yet you cannot
even properly operate a computer? Come on kanter ,,, give your head a
shake...

It must make you look foolish when you criticize someone,,, then you go
and screw up royally by posting the same post over and over and over and
over and over and over again. You fool.

I bet krause is scratching his bald head now with his dentures and
wondering whether to keep you as a puppet or not,,, you are bringing him
down,,, it that is even possible.

Give your empty head a shake kanter,,,,,,,,


I'm guessing you are on drugs. What is the matter with you, Mr. or Ms. Tuuk?
Do you have someone you can call for help?

" Tuuk" wrote in message
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kanter

What are you ,, on drugs??? you posted 5 times,,,

No, stupid. My ISP is having problems with their mail server. Any other
idiotic questions today?