On 26-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

They do not
provide complete coverage which allows you to obtain hospitalization or
surgery on demand in a Canadian hospital.

Bull**** again. There are procedures that are not covered by government
health insurance and these services are covered by the private insurers.
These are scheduled by the doctors that perform the surgery.

Mike

On 26-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

What does that make you,
besides a stink-breath?

Look who brags about being so mature.

You _still_ haven't proved anything.

Mike

On 26-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

My old medical insurance provided that I could go to any hospital in the
world and get immediate treatment, including admission and surgery as
necessary, without any delay, without any permission from anybody, and it
would pay the bills.

This is guaranteed to be bull****. Exactly which hospital has so much
surplus capacity that it can provide any service on demand? Why has
the administration of that hospital not responded to high operating
costs to reduce surplus capacity? Any hospital that badly run should
not get any business.

Mike

On 26-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

Pot, kettle, black.

Prove me wrong, dickhead - post some real proof for a change and
not just some of your usual dithering and ranting.

Mike

On 26-Mar-2005, "BCITORGB" wrote:

Not a single government bureaucrat involved.

Don't confuse the idiot with facts. He only wants to
believe what he reads in AP.

Mike

rick supposes...
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Apparently there already is, if you work for the feds, rcmp,
militay, or are covered by the workers comp board. They do get
to step out of line and go to private surgical clinics instead o
waiting like the rest o the minions
=============

And your basis for saying that is... ???

frtzw906

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

Scott asserts:
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Neither. I'm saying that no amount of health care insurance in Canada
will
get you into a hospital or surgical suite ahead of anyone higher on the
priority list than you.
==============

And are you suggesting that there ought to be some sort of insurance
coverage that could get you higher on the priority list? Just curious.

Of course. Everyone should be able to seek out a hospital and/or a surgeon
that can provide service immediately. In Canada, while people sit on waiting
lists, beds in hospitals are empty or occupied by chronically-ill patients.
Even if your local hospital is idle, if you're not at the top of the list,
they won't help you.

In the US, if one hospital is full, you go find another that isn't and get
service right away.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

Scott asserts (incorrectly):
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You only get to go into the hospital if some government bureaucrat
decides
you "need" to do so, and you "need" to do so more urgently than
somebody
else. If they don't think you "need" to be admitted, or if they don't
have
room, you're ****ed, and you have to come to the US and pay the full
price
for your care.
================

Scott, my doctor determines whether I get admitted to hospital.

No, your doctor recommends that you be admitted. The government determines
where you fall on the priority list.

Several
members of my family have had cases where, upon diagnosis in the family
physician's office, they were IMMEDIATELY sent to the hospital. The
doctor phoned while they were enroute. Upon arriving, a bed was
available. Within 24 hours, surgery had been performed.

Yup. While at the same time, teenagers who need knee surgery have to wait
three years.


Not a single government bureaucrat involved.

Oh, they're there, you just don't see them. They work behind the scenes
prioritizing patients and sending letters to people telling them to wait,
and apologizing if they die in the process.

Oh, BTW, what would be the
official title of this gov't bureaucrat? I know of no such position
within the system: kommisar of hospital admittance LOL....

I hate to disappoint you, but doctors have considerable clout within
our system.

Not if you're not critical they don't.
--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote:


On 26-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

There is no proof your "policy" exists to begin with, there is merely your
assertion that it does.

There is only an assertion by soem AP reporter that the law exists.

She's credible. You aren't.


Fact is I have looked it up,

Fine - tell us where.

Canadian health care statutes and policy guide.


You're still full of ****.

You're still lapping it up.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
oups.com...
rick supposes...
===============
Apparently there already is, if you work for the feds, rcmp,
militay, or are covered by the workers comp board. They do get
to step out of line and go to private surgical clinics instead
o
waiting like the rest o the minions
=============

And your basis for saying that is... ???


"...The Health Resource Centre, a 37-bed clinic at 1402 8th Ave.
SW, will only be allowed to work on Canadians covered under the
Workers' Compensation Board insurance, or employees of the
federal government, the military or RCMP.
Under the plan 24 surgeons, 62 nurses and support staff will be
able to perform 441 surgeries.

Americans not covered by Canadian medicare can pay for the
surgeries but no Canadian will be allowed to pay for a surgery to
jump the queue..."

http://www.cupe40.org/klein_defends_...surgery_cl.htm