P.Fritz wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
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On 23 Mar 2005 11:10:21 -0800, "basskisser"

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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
Well, my Chevron stock has doubled in value and I also
get a
nice
dividend.
Helps with the fuel bills.

Well, I'll ask again. Do you honestly think that if you
pay
MORE
for
gas, that that somehow equates to more money from oil
stock?
You DO
know that stock value and the price at the pump have very
little in
common, don't you?


Back to basskisser, EH? Lots of your side has been saying
the
price
is run
up to get more profit. Well, more profit, means more
dividends
and
price of
stock goes up. Simple.

Lots of my "side"? What is my side, Bill? Hmm, so, now, you
are
saying
that because you pay more at the pump, you'll MAKE money????
Here's a
little simple point for you, Bill. Because the price at the
pump
goes
up, doesn't mean a damned thing to the end profit. It's the
price
of
CRUDE that's went up. Therefore, Chevron paid more for the
crude,
passed that to the pump. Profits did nothing. Let's simplify
it.
Say a
grocer sells tomatoes for 10 cents a piece, and they cost him
5
cents.
His supplier starts charging 7 cents, he passes that to you,
by
charging you 12 cents. His profit hasn't changed.

Wrong idea. The grocer has a profit margin of 100%. So, when
the
price
goes to 7
cents, he raises the price to *14* cents. He's now making an
additional
two
cents profit.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

And CVX also owns a few billion barrels of crude reserves.
Whose
value just
went up also. It still hurts at the pump, but the hurt has a
nice
palliative at dividend time. Basskissers argument ignores that
the
supplier
is also the manufacturer.

My god! Are you really saying that if crude goes up, the oil
companies
profits must, also? You DO realize that it takes the same high
priced
crude to run their delivery trucks, right? You do realize that the
price they have paid for crude has risen, starting this, right?
You do
realize that the trains they run use this high priced crude,
right? You
do realize that the buildings they own and heat with are affected,
right? You do realize that any ancilary companies are passing
these
higher expenses back to the producer, right? To top it off, you do
realize that oil stocks are down because of the high price of
crude,
right?


They are business expenses. They sell at least 99.9% more energy
than
they
consume. That is reflected in the wholesale price of the gas /
diesel /
heating oil they sell.

The "King" is on a ramapage to retain his title. LMAO

What an intelligent and thoughtful interjection to the post. It
certainly shows what you know about stocks, and crude prices vs. stock
prices.