On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:35:45 GMT, jchaplain wrote:

I didn't intend to come of as condescending.

Fair enough, sorry for the somewhat harsh counter reply.

It's just that you defended it by saying it's always worked before
when you know it was always the wrong thing to do from the getgo.

I defended it by saying I was taught the method years ago by
trailerable power boat people who had lots of experience and by the
observation that the method I used was certainly the common method on
the ramps I use. What I never said was I knew it was the wrong thing
to do. If I had the slightest inclination the boat might slide off
the bunks on our local ramps I would have modified my methods before
this incident.

Hey, I learned a lesson with very little negative consequenses, and
hopefully I've alerted someone else to the possibility.

Happy boating.

bb

bb,
You didn't by chance just wax that boat? Sorry to hear of your
misfortune.
Paul

"bb" wrote in message
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More often than not I take my trailerable fishing boats out by myself.
I have a routine where I get ready back down the ramp, unhook the
boat, tie the boat to the trailer with a 20' or so line, then back
down the ramp. Usually, once the boat is partially floating, I have
to stiffly brake a couple of times to get the boat off the trailer.
If the transom of the boat is not partially in the water, the boat
just doesn't budge off the trailer.

Well, today, I went through my normal routine at a ramp I've used many
times before. About half way down the ramp the boat just slid off the
trailer. The skeg of the ob took the brunt of the impact, but the
boat slip at least half way off the trailer. I stopped he truck and
cranked the boat back up the trailer, then proceeded to back the boat
into the water and launch successfully.

My trailer has bunks with indoor/outdoor carpet, not rollers. The
ramp was one I've used before and not unusually steep. I was backing
down the ramp slowly and did not even tap the brakes. When I put the
boat back on the trailer I have to give it a pretty good shot of power
to run it into place. On this particular day I was going with another
person who has launched trailerable power boats for years and says he
goes through the same routine as I do and has never seen anything like
what happened today.

Like I said, my normal routine for years has been to stop out of the
way in the ramp area, check the boat, unhook the crank and safety
chain, attach a 20' rope then move to the ramp area. I'll then back
down the ramp and get the boat free from the trailer by stiffly
braking a couple of times when the boat is partially floating.

After this incident, from now on, I'll back down until the boat is
right at the waters edge before disconnecting the safety hook. I
can't say I see others doing what I'm describing, but I'll be damned
if I'll have the boat slide off on the ramp again.

What are other folks experiences in launching their boats? Do you
stop just as the boat reaches the water and then disconnect the safety
chain? I can't say I've notice anyone else doing this, but maybe I'm
missing someing.

bb

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:46:16 -0500, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

bb,
You didn't by chance just wax that boat?

No wax, and nothing new. I haven't had it out in about a month, but
nothing I can put a finger on as to why now.

Sorry to hear of your
misfortune.

Thanks, but no real dammage, except to my huge ego.

bb

bb,

Glad no one got hurt as well as no damage to the boat. I was out
Wennesday at the coast with a neighbor down there when he launched
his boat. He was launching on a fairly steep ramp and unhooked the
boat halfway down the ramp. I was quite surprised the boat didn't
slide off then and there. I had a little talk with him about how
he launches and hopefully what I pointed out sunk in for him. I
don't remember if he had bunks or rollers, but either way, I was
surprised the boat stayed on the trailer!

When I launch, I don't unhook the boat until I'm pretty much at
the water with it. Even though I have rollers, I have to back in
pretty far (back wheel at or in water) for the boat to want to
come off the trailer and even then, I apply the brakes for that
extra boost. Once the boat is floating, I'll get on the dock and
tie it off.

I'm thinking you should open the lower drain plug on your
gearcase to make sure the shock didn't affect anything and cause a
leak. If you do, you should only need to let a few drops out as the
water will have sunk to the bottom or the oil will have turned a
milky white from mixing with water.

-JimL




bb wrote:
More often than not I take my trailerable fishing boats out by myself.
I have a routine where I get ready back down the ramp, unhook the
boat, tie the boat to the trailer with a 20' or so line, then back
down the ramp. Usually, once the boat is partially floating, I have
to stiffly brake a couple of times to get the boat off the trailer.
If the transom of the boat is not partially in the water, the boat
just doesn't budge off the trailer.

Well, today, I went through my normal routine at a ramp I've used many
times before. About half way down the ramp the boat just slid off the
trailer. The skeg of the ob took the brunt of the impact, but the
boat slip at least half way off the trailer. I stopped he truck and
cranked the boat back up the trailer, then proceeded to back the boat
into the water and launch successfully.

My trailer has bunks with indoor/outdoor carpet, not rollers. The
ramp was one I've used before and not unusually steep. I was backing
down the ramp slowly and did not even tap the brakes. When I put the
boat back on the trailer I have to give it a pretty good shot of power
to run it into place. On this particular day I was going with another
person who has launched trailerable power boats for years and says he
goes through the same routine as I do and has never seen anything like
what happened today.

Like I said, my normal routine for years has been to stop out of the
way in the ramp area, check the boat, unhook the crank and safety
chain, attach a 20' rope then move to the ramp area. I'll then back
down the ramp and get the boat free from the trailer by stiffly
braking a couple of times when the boat is partially floating.

After this incident, from now on, I'll back down until the boat is
right at the waters edge before disconnecting the safety hook. I
can't say I see others doing what I'm describing, but I'll be damned
if I'll have the boat slide off on the ramp again.

What are other folks experiences in launching their boats? Do you
stop just as the boat reaches the water and then disconnect the safety
chain? I can't say I've notice anyone else doing this, but maybe I'm
missing someing.

bb

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 05:12:48 GMT, JimL
wrote:


I'm thinking you should open the lower drain plug on your
gearcase to make sure the shock didn't affect anything and cause a
leak. If you do, you should only need to let a few drops out as the
water will have sunk to the bottom or the oil will have turned a
milky white from mixing with water.

Thanks for the heads up on that. I was planning on doing just that,
but a reminder doesn't hurt.

bb

"bb" wrote in message
...
What are other folks experiences in launching their boats? Do you
stop just as the boat reaches the water and then disconnect the safety
chain? I can't say I've notice anyone else doing this, but maybe I'm
missing someing.


I have seen this happen before, which is why I have always waited until I
had the trailer in the water before disconnecting the bow hook.
Specifically, I will back the trailer into the water until the tongue is
right at the water's edge, where I can reach it without getting my feet wet.
On some ramps this is far enough to get the boat off with a gentle push. On
other ramps I will back up another foot or two and tap the brake to slide
the boat off.

I would say that you were lucky that the boat only partially came off the
trailer. I have seen it in the past where the boat came all the way off,
and then had to be dragged down the ramp to the water. That is REALLY hard
on the bottom. Plus it ****es everyone off who is waiting to use the ramp.

Why did it happen this time and never before?

Well, perhaps being winter the bunks never dried out from the last time
you used the boat. Dry bunks will hold the boat okay, but the boat will
slide much easier on wet bunks. If it has been cold and damp since the last
time you launched the carpet pads could have still been wet.

Rod

bb wrote in message SNIPBoat fell off the trailer SNIP
bb

Any chance it rained recently and your plug was in?

I could see a bilge water movement causing the mystery suicide attempt.

On 26 Jan 2004 17:48:49 -0800, (C. Sadler) wrote:

bb wrote in message SNIPBoat fell off the trailer SNIP
bb

Any chance it rained recently and your plug was in?

I could see a bilge water movement causing the mystery suicide attempt.

Well, there's an interesting theory, and, to my way of thinking, a
very viable possibility. My habit is to hit the bilge pump switch as
part of my readying the boat for towing routine, but that doesn't
guarantee the bilge wasn't full and the switch or pump failed. I'm
not in the habit of leaving the plug out of this boat as it does have
an auto bilge pump and water accumulation hasn't been a problem.

Hehehe, mystery suicide attempt, how appropriate to describe what
happened.

I'll check that as I get time tomorrow and let you know the results.
Thanks for the thought.

bb