It could be true. But why?

NOYB wrote:

It could be true. But why?

****************
Don't know that it's true, but here's a possible reason why.


Version A: Our enemy is a brave man who made a "last stand". Badly
outnumbered, he fired on his determined captors with a small handgun
and resisted arrest until overwhelmed by a superior force.

Version B: Our enemy is a snivelling coward who crawled into a hole in
the ground to hide. The discredited ******* had even been deserted by
all closest supporters and left to fend for himself.

Version B plays a lot better with the cowboy vs. indian mindset of most
war mongers. "The enemy is subhuman, weak, and unworthy." And why make
a heroic martyr out of Hussein?

My question about the Hussein captu In almost every instance where
troops suspect there is an enemy force hiding in a hole or a cave, some
sort of grenade or other explosive is usually dropped in prior to
sending in any troops or tunnel rats. If Hussein was captured in a hole
in the ground it is amazing that he was not killed by the grenade that
one would assume would have been dropped in as soon as the cover was
removed.

Hussein is/was an asshole. If the ends justified the means, the Iraq
disaster would have been worth it. IF.

It's typical of asshole bullies to be actual cowards at heart, always
willing to throw their weight around and dominate as long as they think
they hold the upper hand-size-wise, military-wise, etc. Strip them of
their perceived superiority, and they shrink into the sniveling, weak
little cowards they really are inside. This is why bullies pick on guys
half their size, but cut and run when someone who they see as *maybe*
tougher than them steps in. Doesn't matter if you are a barroom brawler
or Saddam. Strip Saddam of his mantel of protection and security, and
it's not hard to believe he was, in fact, cowering in a rat hole when found.
JR

wrote:

NOYB wrote:

It could be true. But why?

****************
Don't know that it's true, but here's a possible reason why.


Version A: Our enemy is a brave man who made a "last stand". Badly
outnumbered, he fired on his determined captors with a small handgun
and resisted arrest until overwhelmed by a superior force.

Version B: Our enemy is a snivelling coward who crawled into a hole in
the ground to hide. The discredited ******* had even been deserted by
all closest supporters and left to fend for himself.

Version B plays a lot better with the cowboy vs. indian mindset of most
war mongers. "The enemy is subhuman, weak, and unworthy." And why make
a heroic martyr out of Hussein?

My question about the Hussein captu In almost every instance where
troops suspect there is an enemy force hiding in a hole or a cave, some
sort of grenade or other explosive is usually dropped in prior to
sending in any troops or tunnel rats. If Hussein was captured in a hole
in the ground it is amazing that he was not killed by the grenade that
one would assume would have been dropped in as soon as the cover was
removed.

Hussein is/was an asshole. If the ends justified the means, the Iraq
disaster would have been worth it. IF.



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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

"JR North" wrote in message
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It's typical of asshole bullies to be actual cowards at heart, always
willing to throw their weight around and dominate as long as they think
they hold the upper hand-size-wise, military-wise, etc. Strip them of
their perceived superiority, and they shrink into the sniveling, weak
little cowards they really are inside. This is why bullies pick on guys
half their size, but cut and run when someone who they see as *maybe*
tougher than them steps in. Doesn't matter if you are a barroom brawler
or Saddam. Strip Saddam of his mantel of protection and security, and
it's not hard to believe he was, in fact, cowering in a rat hole when
found.
JR


Hell, I thought you were talking about our "King of the NG idiots" until
you brought up saddam


wrote:

NOYB wrote:

It could be true. But why?

****************
Don't know that it's true, but here's a possible reason why.


Version A: Our enemy is a brave man who made a "last stand". Badly
outnumbered, he fired on his determined captors with a small handgun
and resisted arrest until overwhelmed by a superior force.

Version B: Our enemy is a snivelling coward who crawled into a hole in
the ground to hide. The discredited ******* had even been deserted by
all closest supporters and left to fend for himself.

Version B plays a lot better with the cowboy vs. indian mindset of most
war mongers. "The enemy is subhuman, weak, and unworthy." And why make
a heroic martyr out of Hussein?

My question about the Hussein captu In almost every instance where
troops suspect there is an enemy force hiding in a hole or a cave, some
sort of grenade or other explosive is usually dropped in prior to
sending in any troops or tunnel rats. If Hussein was captured in a hole
in the ground it is amazing that he was not killed by the grenade that
one would assume would have been dropped in as soon as the cover was
removed.

Hussein is/was an asshole. If the ends justified the means, the Iraq
disaster would have been worth it. IF.



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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

P. Fritz wrote:

Hell, I thought you were talking about our "King of the NG idiots"
until
you brought up saddam

The only one here who still resorts to childish name calling. JimH,
please, help Fritz out.

On 9 Mar 2005 18:25:49 -0800, wrote:

NOYB wrote:

It could be true. But why?

****************
Don't know that it's true, but here's a possible reason why.


Version A: Our enemy is a brave man who made a "last stand". Badly
outnumbered, he fired on his determined captors with a small handgun
and resisted arrest until overwhelmed by a superior force.

Version B: Our enemy is a snivelling coward who crawled into a hole in
the ground to hide. The discredited ******* had even been deserted by
all closest supporters and left to fend for himself.

Version B plays a lot better with the cowboy vs. indian mindset of most
war mongers. "The enemy is subhuman, weak, and unworthy." And why make
a heroic martyr out of Hussein?

My question about the Hussein captu In almost every instance where
troops suspect there is an enemy force hiding in a hole or a cave, some
sort of grenade or other explosive is usually dropped in prior to
sending in any troops or tunnel rats. If Hussein was captured in a hole
in the ground it is amazing that he was not killed by the grenade that
one would assume would have been dropped in as soon as the cover was
removed.

Hussein is/was an asshole. If the ends justified the means, the Iraq
disaster would have been worth it. IF.

Where the hell did this come from?

Your experiences with 'tunnel rats' aren't very accurate. The technique you
describe may have wiped out a lot of Japanese machine gun emplacements, but was
not used by 'tunnel rats'. Tunnel rats went into tunnels to glean intelligence
and/or determine if the enemy were there. It's hard to glean intelligence from a
tunnel caved in by a grenade.

Your grenade assumption applies to you, not the rhetorical 'one' you use.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

This posting, and the rest like it, are totally ridiculous for a rec.boats
newsgroup.

What does this have to do with boating? And why do you think people would
come to rec.boats to read this type of info.

Having to sort through these long threads to find anything to do with
boating is a total crock of ****!

Not trying to **** of you, or your multitude of followers, and critics, but
why don't you post this information in a group where it belongs?

Hell, more crap in here than in the porno or politics groups.

I am sure this will have no impact, so go ahead and bitch!

Mike


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Public version of Saddam capture fiction

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, March 9 (UPI) -- A former U.S. Marine who
participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the
public version of his capture was fabricated.

Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted in the Saudi
daily al-Medina Wednesday as saying Saddam was actually captured Friday,
Dec. 12, 2003, and not the day after, as announced by the U.S. Army.

"I was among the 20-man unit, including eight of Arab descent, who
searched for Saddam for three days in the area of Dour near Tikrit, and we
found him in a modest home in a small village and not in a hole as
announced," Abou Rabeh said.

"We captured him after fierce resistance during which a Marine of Sudanese
origin was killed," he said.

He said Saddam himself fired at them with a gun from the window of a room
on the second floor. Then they shouted at him in Arabic: "You have to
surrender. ... There is no point in resisting."

"Later on, a military production team fabricated the film of Saddam's
capture in a hole, which was in fact a deserted well," Abou Rabeh said.

Abou Rabeh was interviewed in Lebanon.


Copyright 2005 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.

In article ,
says...
This posting, and the rest like it, are totally ridiculous for a rec.boats
newsgroup.

What does this have to do with boating? And why do you think people would
come to rec.boats to read this type of info.

Having to sort through these long threads to find anything to do with
boating is a total crock of ****!

Not trying to **** of you, or your multitude of followers, and critics, but
why don't you post this information in a group where it belongs?

Hell, more crap in here than in the porno or politics groups.

I am sure this will have no impact, so go ahead and bitch!

Mike


Tell us about your favorite porno groups Mike. Kiddy porn, giant boobs,
scungy toenails?

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
This posting, and the rest like it, are totally ridiculous for a
rec.boats
newsgroup.

What does this have to do with boating? And why do you think people would
come to rec.boats to read this type of info.

Having to sort through these long threads to find anything to do with
boating is a total crock of ****!

Not trying to **** of you, or your multitude of followers, and critics,
but
why don't you post this information in a group where it belongs?

Hell, more crap in here than in the porno or politics groups.

I am sure this will have no impact, so go ahead and bitch!

Mike


Tell us about your favorite porno groups Mike. Kiddy porn, giant boobs,
scungy toenails?

Exactly the reply I would expect from the group from what I have seen.

And no Harry, I don't post unless I have a question, or something to add
about boats!!! You should both try that thought process some time!

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 21:32:45 -0500, "MikeT" wrote:

This posting, and the rest like it, are totally ridiculous for a rec.boats
newsgroup.

What does this have to do with boating? And why do you think people would
come to rec.boats to read this type of info.

Having to sort through these long threads to find anything to do with
boating is a total crock of ****!

Not trying to **** of you, or your multitude of followers, and critics, but
why don't you post this information in a group where it belongs?

Hell, more crap in here than in the porno or politics groups.

I am sure this will have no impact, so go ahead and bitch!

Mike


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Public version of Saddam capture fiction

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, March 9 (UPI) -- A former U.S. Marine who
participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the
public version of his capture was fabricated.

Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted in the Saudi
daily al-Medina Wednesday as saying Saddam was actually captured Friday,
Dec. 12, 2003, and not the day after, as announced by the U.S. Army.

"I was among the 20-man unit, including eight of Arab descent, who
searched for Saddam for three days in the area of Dour near Tikrit, and we
found him in a modest home in a small village and not in a hole as
announced," Abou Rabeh said.

"We captured him after fierce resistance during which a Marine of Sudanese
origin was killed," he said.

He said Saddam himself fired at them with a gun from the window of a room
on the second floor. Then they shouted at him in Arabic: "You have to
surrender. ... There is no point in resisting."

"Later on, a military production team fabricated the film of Saddam's
capture in a hole, which was in fact a deserted well," Abou Rabeh said.

Abou Rabeh was interviewed in Lebanon.


Copyright 2005 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.


Thanks Mike! Now I see what all the fuss is about. Some ridiculous tripe posted
by someone who is praying that such be true. Note the source, 'a former Marine
of Lebanese descent, in Saudi Arabia'.

Actually, without a web site I would question whether the article wasn't a
figment of the original poster's imagination.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."