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NOYB March 10th 05 01:38 AM

Could this be true?
 
It could be true. But why?



[email protected] March 10th 05 02:25 AM

NOYB wrote:

It could be true. But why?

****************
Don't know that it's true, but here's a possible reason why.


Version A: Our enemy is a brave man who made a "last stand". Badly
outnumbered, he fired on his determined captors with a small handgun
and resisted arrest until overwhelmed by a superior force.

Version B: Our enemy is a snivelling coward who crawled into a hole in
the ground to hide. The discredited ******* had even been deserted by
all closest supporters and left to fend for himself.

Version B plays a lot better with the cowboy vs. indian mindset of most
war mongers. "The enemy is subhuman, weak, and unworthy." And why make
a heroic martyr out of Hussein?

My question about the Hussein captu In almost every instance where
troops suspect there is an enemy force hiding in a hole or a cave, some
sort of grenade or other explosive is usually dropped in prior to
sending in any troops or tunnel rats. If Hussein was captured in a hole
in the ground it is amazing that he was not killed by the grenade that
one would assume would have been dropped in as soon as the cover was
removed.

Hussein is/was an asshole. If the ends justified the means, the Iraq
disaster would have been worth it. IF.


MikeT March 10th 05 02:32 AM

This posting, and the rest like it, are totally ridiculous for a rec.boats
newsgroup.

What does this have to do with boating? And why do you think people would
come to rec.boats to read this type of info.

Having to sort through these long threads to find anything to do with
boating is a total crock of ****!

Not trying to **** of you, or your multitude of followers, and critics, but
why don't you post this information in a group where it belongs?

Hell, more crap in here than in the porno or politics groups.

I am sure this will have no impact, so go ahead and bitch!

Mike


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Public version of Saddam capture fiction

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, March 9 (UPI) -- A former U.S. Marine who
participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the
public version of his capture was fabricated.

Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted in the Saudi
daily al-Medina Wednesday as saying Saddam was actually captured Friday,
Dec. 12, 2003, and not the day after, as announced by the U.S. Army.

"I was among the 20-man unit, including eight of Arab descent, who
searched for Saddam for three days in the area of Dour near Tikrit, and we
found him in a modest home in a small village and not in a hole as
announced," Abou Rabeh said.

"We captured him after fierce resistance during which a Marine of Sudanese
origin was killed," he said.

He said Saddam himself fired at them with a gun from the window of a room
on the second floor. Then they shouted at him in Arabic: "You have to
surrender. ... There is no point in resisting."

"Later on, a military production team fabricated the film of Saddam's
capture in a hole, which was in fact a deserted well," Abou Rabeh said.

Abou Rabeh was interviewed in Lebanon.


Copyright 2005 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.




jps March 10th 05 03:32 AM

In article ,
says...
This posting, and the rest like it, are totally ridiculous for a rec.boats
newsgroup.

What does this have to do with boating? And why do you think people would
come to rec.boats to read this type of info.

Having to sort through these long threads to find anything to do with
boating is a total crock of ****!

Not trying to **** of you, or your multitude of followers, and critics, but
why don't you post this information in a group where it belongs?

Hell, more crap in here than in the porno or politics groups.

I am sure this will have no impact, so go ahead and bitch!

Mike



Tell us about your favorite porno groups Mike. Kiddy porn, giant boobs,
scungy toenails?


JR North March 10th 05 03:36 AM


It's typical of asshole bullies to be actual cowards at heart, always
willing to throw their weight around and dominate as long as they think
they hold the upper hand-size-wise, military-wise, etc. Strip them of
their perceived superiority, and they shrink into the sniveling, weak
little cowards they really are inside. This is why bullies pick on guys
half their size, but cut and run when someone who they see as *maybe*
tougher than them steps in. Doesn't matter if you are a barroom brawler
or Saddam. Strip Saddam of his mantel of protection and security, and
it's not hard to believe he was, in fact, cowering in a rat hole when found.
JR

wrote:

NOYB wrote:

It could be true. But why?

****************
Don't know that it's true, but here's a possible reason why.


Version A: Our enemy is a brave man who made a "last stand". Badly
outnumbered, he fired on his determined captors with a small handgun
and resisted arrest until overwhelmed by a superior force.

Version B: Our enemy is a snivelling coward who crawled into a hole in
the ground to hide. The discredited ******* had even been deserted by
all closest supporters and left to fend for himself.

Version B plays a lot better with the cowboy vs. indian mindset of most
war mongers. "The enemy is subhuman, weak, and unworthy." And why make
a heroic martyr out of Hussein?

My question about the Hussein captu In almost every instance where
troops suspect there is an enemy force hiding in a hole or a cave, some
sort of grenade or other explosive is usually dropped in prior to
sending in any troops or tunnel rats. If Hussein was captured in a hole
in the ground it is amazing that he was not killed by the grenade that
one would assume would have been dropped in as soon as the cover was
removed.

Hussein is/was an asshole. If the ends justified the means, the Iraq
disaster would have been worth it. IF.



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MikeT March 10th 05 03:42 AM



"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
This posting, and the rest like it, are totally ridiculous for a
rec.boats
newsgroup.

What does this have to do with boating? And why do you think people would
come to rec.boats to read this type of info.

Having to sort through these long threads to find anything to do with
boating is a total crock of ****!

Not trying to **** of you, or your multitude of followers, and critics,
but
why don't you post this information in a group where it belongs?

Hell, more crap in here than in the porno or politics groups.

I am sure this will have no impact, so go ahead and bitch!

Mike



Tell us about your favorite porno groups Mike. Kiddy porn, giant boobs,
scungy toenails?


Exactly the reply I would expect from the group from what I have seen.

And no Harry, I don't post unless I have a question, or something to add
about boats!!! You should both try that thought process some time!



mgg March 10th 05 04:06 AM

BTW, is this "Mike" one of the regular posters here?

I don't know if you mean me, as I've only been posting here for 7 months or
so, but it AINT me. I'm *am* partial to the giant booby sites though g.
Gotta be honest...

--Mike

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:
In article ,
says...

This posting, and the rest like it, are totally ridiculous for a
rec.boats newsgroup.

What does this have to do with boating? And why do you think people would
come to rec.boats to read this type of info.

Having to sort through these long threads to find anything to do with
boating is a total crock of ****!

Not trying to **** of you, or your multitude of followers, and critics,
but why don't you post this information in a group where it belongs?

Hell, more crap in here than in the porno or politics groups.

I am sure this will have no impact, so go ahead and bitch!

Mike




Tell us about your favorite porno groups Mike. Kiddy porn, giant boobs,
scungy toenails?


Yeah!

BTW, is this "Mike" one of the regular posters here?




P. Fritz March 10th 05 04:27 AM


"JR North" wrote in message
...

It's typical of asshole bullies to be actual cowards at heart, always
willing to throw their weight around and dominate as long as they think
they hold the upper hand-size-wise, military-wise, etc. Strip them of
their perceived superiority, and they shrink into the sniveling, weak
little cowards they really are inside. This is why bullies pick on guys
half their size, but cut and run when someone who they see as *maybe*
tougher than them steps in. Doesn't matter if you are a barroom brawler
or Saddam. Strip Saddam of his mantel of protection and security, and
it's not hard to believe he was, in fact, cowering in a rat hole when

found.
JR



Hell, I thought you were talking about our "King of the NG idiots" until
you brought up saddam


wrote:

NOYB wrote:

It could be true. But why?

****************
Don't know that it's true, but here's a possible reason why.


Version A: Our enemy is a brave man who made a "last stand". Badly
outnumbered, he fired on his determined captors with a small handgun
and resisted arrest until overwhelmed by a superior force.

Version B: Our enemy is a snivelling coward who crawled into a hole in
the ground to hide. The discredited ******* had even been deserted by
all closest supporters and left to fend for himself.

Version B plays a lot better with the cowboy vs. indian mindset of most
war mongers. "The enemy is subhuman, weak, and unworthy." And why make
a heroic martyr out of Hussein?

My question about the Hussein captu In almost every instance where
troops suspect there is an enemy force hiding in a hole or a cave, some
sort of grenade or other explosive is usually dropped in prior to
sending in any troops or tunnel rats. If Hussein was captured in a hole
in the ground it is amazing that he was not killed by the grenade that
one would assume would have been dropped in as soon as the cover was
removed.

Hussein is/was an asshole. If the ends justified the means, the Iraq
disaster would have been worth it. IF.



--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth




JR North March 10th 05 07:11 AM

For being such a sourpuss, it's nice to see your sense of humor is alive
and well :)
JR
Harry Krause wrote:

JR North wrote:


It's typical of asshole bullies to be actual cowards at heart, always
willing to throw their weight around and dominate as long as they
think they hold the upper hand-size-wise, military-wise, etc. Strip
them of their perceived superiority, and they shrink into the
sniveling, weak little cowards they really are inside. This is why
bullies pick on guys half their size, but cut and run when someone who
they see as *maybe* tougher than them steps in.



Uh...who are you describing here, the United States?



--
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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

NOYB March 10th 05 03:38 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:
In article ,
says...

This posting, and the rest like it, are totally ridiculous for a
rec.boats newsgroup.

What does this have to do with boating? And why do you think people would
come to rec.boats to read this type of info.

Having to sort through these long threads to find anything to do with
boating is a total crock of ****!

Not trying to **** of you, or your multitude of followers, and critics,
but why don't you post this information in a group where it belongs?

Hell, more crap in here than in the porno or politics groups.

I am sure this will have no impact, so go ahead and bitch!

Mike




Tell us about your favorite porno groups Mike. Kiddy porn, giant boobs,
scungy toenails?


Yeah!

BTW, is this "Mike" one of the regular posters here?



Does the no-name-calling pact sponsored by JimH apply to newbies...or just
regulars?




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