otnmbrd wrote:
K. Smith wrote:

otnmbrd wrote:


Sheesh, took me 5 minutes to delete the "Krause Diatribe"

Yep I know exactly what you mean, the socialist union grub can lie &
lie & lie, what's really amazing is that some a stupid enough to believe
him!!!!:-)

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snipped a whole bunch more

That's Ok with me.


So assuming you took the time to read this now go back & look at
the pics, notice that all the really big waves have no reference other
than the wave & deck??? it's just how it looks, note how any of the
pics with some seascape in them give a more realistic effect as to the
wave heights, & even then sometime people have pics of small boats in
not even mild conditions but the illusion is that the waves are huge.


1. Normally a glass of "Coke" or clinometer will move to a greater
degree than the ship/boat. In the case of a clinometer, if you read a 40
deg roll, at sea, divide that in half to get a closer actual roll angle.

You've missed the point completely, lets try again??? You do understand
that gravity that your ear senses, is just acceleration??? So when a
boat pitches bow down, the deck relative to the horizon is is now
inclined down at the bow & up at the stern. If you were standing on the
deck with your eyes closed all you'd feel was the slight drop in gravity
at the bow (accelerating away from your feet) & the slight increase at
the stern (accelerating towards your feet) You would have no clue as to
what angle the deck was at, save you open your eyes & can see a clear
horizon.


2. On a ship, especially one with the HE of this one, in daylight
conditions, as used in those shots, you generally will always have a
good reference to horizontal by the ability of seeing the horizon .....
it's what helps a person's inner ear to keep them standing vertical when
the ship is rolling beneath them ..... take away that visual ability,
and they will bounce off bulkheads.

Again when the boat "rolls" it is actually accelerating up down etc as
the wave effects it with no external reference of what is true
horizontal you'll never know, an inclinometer won't help because it
reacts to the various acceleration just the same as your ear does.


3. Take a look at the first picture. The foc'sle, at rest, in a loaded
condition, sits @25' above the water. The foremast is @30' tall. The
ship is starting back from a heavy port roll and beginning to recover
from a downward pitch.
For these reasons, the implication that this wave is 100' high, to me,
is incorrect. By rolling the ship (mentally) back about 20 deg and
following the line of the swell ahead, you can get a better idea of it's
height..... again, I'd say @60 +/-.

Well you can believe as you wish but where is the reference?? The fact
water is getting on deck means nothing whatsoever as to wave height,
it's just a function of the boats motion in a fluid. Note in pic one
it's taken to confirm a belief, but not seascape even so it means nothing.

It's interesting to note that there is no water on deck. This, coupled
with the fact that this wave blew out a porthole which is about 20+ feet
above the main deck, and the engine was only running at full ahead
maneuvering, leads me to think that they had been running fairly BG
comfortably and this was a "freak wave".

The old blown porthole story so what???

4. Second picture .... seas, 30'-40' range.

Same boat in the same sea state but you've dropped the waves by half,
just a bit of seascape crept into the pic, if you saw a wide angle with
lots of seascape you'd get closer to the reality a steady say 20 with
the occasion wave atop a swell giving you the 30.

It seems even you accept this is nothing more than a very bumpy day &
most of the action is being caused by the boat itself rolling pitching &
ploughing along.



otn


K

he's your diatribe Krause lie of the day:-)


Of course the big question with Krause's lies is just how does he
come up with these absurd BS stories?? After all it's clear he has no
education nor even basic intelligence, well here's an example;


Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and
hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina,
Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby.



Notwithstanding it's just more of his racist based abuse of others
he sees as lesser people because of their address, the interesting part
is the endless lies he throws in about the non existent "young bride" lie.

Well look where he got the idea of the "corporate jet" lie; guess
what??? Good ol' Ullico spends genuine unionists money on a corporate
jet!!! & as with all their type they squabble over who gets the most of
other peoples' money!!!


ULLICO
Union Pension-Owned Company Set to Lose $20-$30 Million
Its stock windfall from the bankrupt Global Crossing now gone,
Georgine, former head of the AFL-CIO's Bldg. & Construction Trades
Dept., blamed chief financial officer John Grelle for the losses.
Days later, Grelle resigned in protest, blasting Georgine for not
selling the company jet, which costs $3 million a year.



Remember this is hard working in the main, ordinary honest
unionists' money they're ****ing away then fighting over the leftovers???