Welding our trailer - pics
 

"QLW" wrote:

Don't paint it!!! Galvanize it.
I pay around $38 per 100 lbs for galvanizing so most trailers can be
done for $300 to $400.

If we do galvanize I'd really like to do the color galvy. That grey just
looks so bla...and we've spent so much effort trying to make the
boat look good. Yea, you don't see the trailer when the boat is
in the water, but sometimes we might take her to an old-wooden
boat show and have her on the trailer. You have any experience
with color-galvy or cost?

I don't know anything about sand blasting. Our steel is all new
and we've oiled it (WD-40) to prevent rust, but I'd think maybe
we should sand blast it before painting/galvanizing. Can one
rent a sand blasting setup or is it just as easy to have the
paint/galv shop do it?



BTW, I can't believe that your axles weigh 200 lbs. each.
You may be right. My Dad weighed them and I'm not sure if maybe
he had the tires & hubs on and I'm not 100% certain of the weight
number he told me. I'm gonna go back down and weigh them later
today.


Ospho is a somewhat less effective
alternative to sandblasting but FOR SURE do not just paint over mill
scale.

Um, what is "Ospho" and what is "mill scale"? I assume mill scale just
means
the steel as it came from the mill ??


Thanks *very much* for taking time with this.
Gary

Welding our trailer - pics
 

You can get a low-production sandblaster pretty cheap. You will need a
compressor. Look here and type in "blaster" in the keyword search.

http://www.harborfreight.com/

Check with someone for the right media. I've heard of people using walnut
shells and dried corn cob pieces that they bought commercially for that purpose.

Dan


Gary Warner wrote:

"QLW" wrote:


Don't paint it!!! Galvanize it.
I pay around $38 per 100 lbs for galvanizing so most trailers can be
done for $300 to $400.


If we do galvanize I'd really like to do the color galvy. That grey just
looks so bla...and we've spent so much effort trying to make the
boat look good. Yea, you don't see the trailer when the boat is
in the water, but sometimes we might take her to an old-wooden
boat show and have her on the trailer. You have any experience
with color-galvy or cost?

I don't know anything about sand blasting. Our steel is all new
and we've oiled it (WD-40) to prevent rust, but I'd think maybe
we should sand blast it before painting/galvanizing. Can one
rent a sand blasting setup or is it just as easy to have the
paint/galv shop do it?




BTW, I can't believe that your axles weigh 200 lbs. each.

You may be right. My Dad weighed them and I'm not sure if maybe
he had the tires & hubs on and I'm not 100% certain of the weight
number he told me. I'm gonna go back down and weigh them later
today.



Ospho is a somewhat less effective
alternative to sandblasting but FOR SURE do not just paint over mill

scale.

Um, what is "Ospho" and what is "mill scale"? I assume mill scale just
means
the steel as it came from the mill ??


Thanks *very much* for taking time with this.
Gary

Welding our trailer - pics
 

I bought that 40 lb blaster from Harbor Freight to use when I don't want to
drag my trailer mounted blaster around. However, the nozzle that comes with
it is a joke and I simply replaced the nozzle with a commercial grade with a
"deadman" valve and it works great. But even a small tank like that needs
to be feed through large diameter hoses ( I use 1" ID with twist locks) and
at least 8 cfm @ 120 lbs. I do occasionally run it off of my 120v portable
compressor but I just have to stop often and let it catch up. Trying to
blast something as large as a trailer is just not practical with a small
compressor.

In answer to Gary's other questions. I know nothing about color
galvanizing.
As I said before, it is not necessary to sandblast new steel as the acid dip
that is part of the galvanizing process will deal with light rust and mill
scale. Mill scale is the gray/black oxidation that is found on hot rolled
structural steel. The flux and heavy oxidation that is found around the
welds is another matter and light sand blasting is really the only way to
deal with these, especially in corners that can not be reached with a wire
wheel or grinder.

Oiling the steel before taking it to be galvanized or painted is a very bad
idea as it will hinder the pickling process and may make sandblasting
necessary. I think WD40 will not be a problem as it pretty well evaporates.

Ospho is the trade name for a phosphate process to convert the rust/mill
scale (ferrous oxide) to a more stable surface for painting. There are
several other painting systems that may actually be better and maybe someone
on the NG that is more paint savvy than I can give some advice. When I
know that I'm going to paint, I just plan on blasting the whole thing...but
that is an expensive choice both in labor and materials. I buy sand by the
3000 lb pallet but it still takes me half a day to go pick up a load and I
have to pass that cost on.

The bottom line is, if all of the weld joints and hard to reach nooks and
crannies are not completely cleaned and primed, the trailer is going to rust
and trying to clean and repaint after it rusts is even harder. I guess
because I live on sal****er, I see the problem magnified...but salt or
fresh, rust is a big problem for painted trailers.

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
link.net...
You can get a low-production sandblaster pretty cheap. You will need a
compressor. Look here and type in "blaster" in the keyword search.

http://www.harborfreight.com/

Check with someone for the right media. I've heard of people using walnut
shells and dried corn cob pieces that they bought commercially for that
purpose.

Dan


Gary Warner wrote:

"QLW" wrote:


Don't paint it!!! Galvanize it.
I pay around $38 per 100 lbs for galvanizing so most trailers can be
done for $300 to $400.


If we do galvanize I'd really like to do the color galvy. That grey
just
looks so bla...and we've spent so much effort trying to make the
boat look good. Yea, you don't see the trailer when the boat is
in the water, but sometimes we might take her to an old-wooden
boat show and have her on the trailer. You have any experience
with color-galvy or cost?

I don't know anything about sand blasting. Our steel is all new
and we've oiled it (WD-40) to prevent rust, but I'd think maybe
we should sand blast it before painting/galvanizing. Can one
rent a sand blasting setup or is it just as easy to have the
paint/galv shop do it?




BTW, I can't believe that your axles weigh 200 lbs. each.

You may be right. My Dad weighed them and I'm not sure if maybe
he had the tires & hubs on and I'm not 100% certain of the weight
number he told me. I'm gonna go back down and weigh them later
today.



Ospho is a somewhat less effective
alternative to sandblasting but FOR SURE do not just paint over mill

scale.

Um, what is "Ospho" and what is "mill scale"? I assume mill scale just
means
the steel as it came from the mill ??


Thanks *very much* for taking time with this.
Gary