( Ot ) Fresh evidence that Bush, Blair lied about the war
 

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022705D.shtml

Excerpt:
Downing Street has consistently refused to disclose the date on which
Blair promised Bush that Britain would join the US in the rape of
Baghdad. But evidence obtained by the IoS suggests that it was as early
as April 2002, when Blair met Bush at his pretend ranch in Crawford, Texas.

A ruling by the Parliamentary Ombudsman, seen by the IoS, says the
Government sought advice about the legality of the rape in 2002 as the
result of "statements made in a particular press release".

The issue is now being raised by the Liberal Democrats, who are
concerned about the sudden urgency of ministers' inquiries immediately
after the summit with President Bush. "To be asserting the authority of
the UN when there were discussions about possibly breaking the UN
Charter is double standards at the very least," said their foreign
affairs spokesman, Sir Menzies Campbell. "It underlines the need to know
precisely when this request [for legal advice] was made."

Such an early commitment to war in Iraq by Mr Blair, who insisted well
into the following year that British military options remained open,
would reinforce speculation arising from a book published last week by
Philippe Sands QC, a leading international lawyer. It repeats
allegations that the Attorney General was "leaned on" to change his
legal advice when the war was imminent.


It seems that our friends the Brits don't like being lied into a war
and then sacrificing the lives of her soldier's for no other reason than
to placate the American rapist. Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happends in war" and
then forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500
35,500lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil = 107,500estimate

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the Middle
East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire had anything to
do with it? ;-)

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the Middle
East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire had anything to
do with it? ;-)



So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah
in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't
recall any of them being all that successful either)

"Jim," wrote in message
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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the Middle
East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire had anything
to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of potential
suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah in order to
kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't recall any of
them being all that successful either)

Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the Middle
East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire had anything
to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of potential
suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah in order to
kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't recall any of
them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the
Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire
had anything to do with it? ;-)


So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I
don't recall any of them being all that successful either)



Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?
Or the numbers?
Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war" and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil = 107,500estimate

"Jim," wrote in message
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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the Middle
East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire had
anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah
in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't
recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth
Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?

You never answered mine.

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:52:41 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

....evidence obtained by the IoS suggests...

That says it all, doesn't it?

The Dow was up 75 points today. That suggests it will rise 7500 points in the
next 100 days.

I think I'll buy!



John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the
Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire
had anything to do with it? ;-)


So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah
in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't
recall any of them being all that successful either)



Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?
Or the numbers?
Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war" and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Mentally injured? Give me a friggin break. It is a war, not a visit to see
the Mouse. Bad things happen in war. But those brave men and women are
doing to so your children, your children's children (and so on) will have a
better life free of terrorist....and so that people in the Middle East will
gain freedom from tyranny.



Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil = 107,500estimate

And just how many of those were killed by the Iraqi army and the terrorists.
The terrorist bombing this past Sunday should help you answer that.

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the Middle
East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire had
anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah
in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't
recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.


I can't think of any good things offhand -- people are starving, sick
from bad water and sewage. Many say they preferred life under Saddam

So now I've played your game -- your turn to answer my questions.

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the
Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire
had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah
in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't
recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.
I can't think of any good things offhand --


Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you? http://tinyurl.com/27hth You
could have been the main character.

JimH wrote:
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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the
Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire
had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah
in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't
recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you? http://tinyurl.com/27hth You
could have been the main character.


The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer, or are
you waiting for directions from someone else?

Do you approve of the lies?

Or the numbers?

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war" and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil = 107,500estimate

"Jim," wrote in message
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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the
Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire
had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I
don't recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you? http://tinyurl.com/27hth You
could have been the main character.
The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer, or are you
waiting for directions from someone else?



I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the
Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire
had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I
don't recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you? http://tinyurl.com/27hth You
could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer, or are you
waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.


I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war" and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil = 107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the
Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil
empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades
(I don't recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you? http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer, or are you
waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.
I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war" and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil = 107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO

Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of yours. If you
see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those replies and provide
credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize credible sources
and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You often fail to
provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the
Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil
empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades
(I don't recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you? http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer, or are you
waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war" and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil = 107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO


Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of yours. If you
see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those replies and provide
credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize credible sources
and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You often fail to
provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)


THis coming from one who was caught in his own lie just yesterday! --

I probably provide more references than anyone in the group, in fact I
have been criticized for doing so

as to your question, I watch a variety of channels -- NBC, CBS, ABC CNN,
CNBC and yes even Faux on occasion. The story was no more than a cheap
adolescent shot. I'll bet you giggled for 10 min or so after finding it.

NOW do you think you can muster the balls to answer my questions?

1496 killed (and counting)

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500

Iraqis killed 107,500 estimate

So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO

"Jim," wrote in message
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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in
the Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil
empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades
(I don't recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you? http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer, or are
you waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my
questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war" and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil = 107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO


Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of yours. If
you see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those replies and
provide credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize credible
sources and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You often
fail to provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)
THis coming from one who was caught in his own lie just yesterday! --

I probably provide more references than anyone in the group, in fact I
have been criticized for doing so

as to your question, I watch a variety of channels -- NBC, CBS, ABC CNN,
CNBC and yes even Faux on occasion. The story was no more than a cheap
adolescent shot. I'll bet you giggled for 10 min or so after finding it.

NOW do you think you can muster the balls to answer my questions?



Think what you want. I already told you how I connected to the link and
that method of connection was confirmed by another member here. I had no
reason to lie, neither did he....yet you continue to focus on whether or not
I saw some sort of spam car ad.

And as I said I have already responded to your questions. You have yet
responded to any of mine nor most of what others here have asked you.

You are starting to come across like Bassy. You are coming across as an
extremist.

Perhaps you indeed one. So far it looks like you are.

Here is a present for you: A Life

Grab it while you can as you obviously need it.

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in
the Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil
empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades
(I don't recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you? http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer, or are
you waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my
questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war" and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil = 107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO


Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of yours. If
you see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those replies and
provide credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize credible
sources and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You often
fail to provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)

THis coming from one who was caught in his own lie just yesterday! --

I probably provide more references than anyone in the group, in fact I
have been criticized for doing so

as to your question, I watch a variety of channels -- NBC, CBS, ABC CNN,
CNBC and yes even Faux on occasion. The story was no more than a cheap
adolescent shot. I'll bet you giggled for 10 min or so after finding it.

NOW do you think you can muster the balls to answer my questions?




Think what you want. I already told you how I connected to the link and
that method of connection was confirmed by another member here. I had no
reason to lie, neither did he....yet you continue to focus on whether or not
I saw some sort of spam car ad.

And as I said I have already responded to your questions. You have yet
responded to any of mine nor most of what others here have asked you.

You are starting to come across like Bassy. You are coming across as an
extremist.

Perhaps you indeed one. So far it looks like you are.

Here is a present for you: A Life

Grab it while you can as you obviously need it.



So like all wannabe bullys, you resort to insults when the debate
becomes uncomfortable for you.

I still wonder if you're working under 2 names John H and JimH?

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ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in
the Middle East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's
evil empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands
of potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their
lives for Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the
old crusades (I don't recall any of them being all that
successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you? http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer, or are
you waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my
questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war" and
then forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers = 35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil =
107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO


Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of yours. If
you see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those replies and
provide credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize credible
sources and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You often
fail to provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)

THis coming from one who was caught in his own lie just yesterday! --

I probably provide more references than anyone in the group, in fact I
have been criticized for doing so

as to your question, I watch a variety of channels -- NBC, CBS, ABC CNN,
CNBC and yes even Faux on occasion. The story was no more than a cheap
adolescent shot. I'll bet you giggled for 10 min or so after finding it.

NOW do you think you can muster the balls to answer my questions?




Think what you want. I already told you how I connected to the link and
that method of connection was confirmed by another member here. I had no
reason to lie, neither did he....yet you continue to focus on whether or
not I saw some sort of spam car ad.

And as I said I have already responded to your questions. You have yet
responded to any of mine nor most of what others here have asked you.

You are starting to come across like Bassy. You are coming across as an
extremist.

Perhaps you indeed one. So far it looks like you are.

Here is a present for you: A Life

Grab it while you can as you obviously need it.

So like all wannabe bullys, you resort to insults when the debate becomes
uncomfortable for you.


I spoke the truth.

And sorry Jimcomma but the insults started on your end.

"Jim," wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

"Jim," wrote in message
...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022705D.shtml




ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the Middle
East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire had
anything to
do with it? ;-)



So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah
in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't
recall any of them being all that successful either)

Seems like it has taken 700 years for the Mohammeden's (SP?) to return to
try to control France. They are mostly out of Spain. Crusades did remove
most of the Mohammeden's (as the Muslim's were know until about 1950) from
Europe.

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Jim," wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:

"Jim," wrote in message
...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022705D.shtml




ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the Middle
East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire had
anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah
in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't
recall any of them being all that successful either)

Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth


That's rich. Your president claims the world will end if he doesn't invade a
sovereign country. The sky will fall, in other words. He invades, the place
turns into a free for all that makes the FARQ in Colombia look like pikers.
Jim, points out that ***FACT***, and you think he's making up a story?

Calif Bill wrote:

Seems like it has taken 700 years for the Mohammeden's (SP?) to return
to
try to control France. They are mostly out of Spain. Crusades did
remove
most of the Mohammeden's (as the Muslim's were know until about 1950)
from
Europe.


**************************

The Crusades (as in the invasion of the Holy Land) had nothing to do
with the expulsion of Muslims from Spain. The First Crusade was in 1095
CE, and the seventh and last traditionally recognized "crusade" was a
fait accompli before 1300 CE.

The Muslims dominated southern Spain until almost the begining of the
16th Century. The combined armies of Ferdinand and Isabella drove the
Moorish forces back across Gibralter into North Africa and the modern
nation of Spain was formed. In 1492, (a year we normally remember for
the voyage of Cristobal Colon), F & I expelled and/or (literally)
crucified an enormous percentage of the civilian populace. All gypsies,
Jews, and Muslims were ordered to publicly renounce their religions and
accept Christianity or get the heck out of Dodge. Those who stood by
their principles but were a bit slow to leave were murdered along with
those who totally defied the edict. One of the several political and
financial benefits of the expulsion was that all property that had
belonged to the expelled or crucified "heathens" escheated to the
crown.

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ps.com...
Calif Bill wrote:

Seems like it has taken 700 years for the Mohammeden's (SP?) to return
to
try to control France. They are mostly out of Spain. Crusades did
remove
most of the Mohammeden's (as the Muslim's were know until about 1950)
from
Europe.


**************************

The Crusades (as in the invasion of the Holy Land) had nothing to do
with the expulsion of Muslims from Spain. The First Crusade was in 1095
CE, and the seventh and last traditionally recognized "crusade" was a
fait accompli before 1300 CE.

The Muslims dominated southern Spain until almost the begining of the
16th Century. The combined armies of Ferdinand and Isabella drove the
Moorish forces back across Gibralter into North Africa and the modern
nation of Spain was formed. In 1492, (a year we normally remember for
the voyage of Cristobal Colon), F & I expelled and/or (literally)
crucified an enormous percentage of the civilian populace. All gypsies,
Jews, and Muslims were ordered to publicly renounce their religions and
accept Christianity or get the heck out of Dodge. Those who stood by
their principles but were a bit slow to leave were murdered along with
those who totally defied the edict. One of the several political and
financial benefits of the expulsion was that all property that had
belonged to the expelled or crucified "heathens" escheated to the
crown.


OK. Meanwhile, the Spanish spread their influence all over the world, and
they were NOT delivering girl scout cookies and schoolbooks. Europeans spent
hundreds of years annoying, dominating or killing people all over the globe.
What's your point?

JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...


JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...



JimH wrote:



"Jim," wrote in message
...




JimH wrote:





"Jim," wrote in message
.. .





JimH wrote:






"Jim," wrote in message
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022705D.shtml




ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things
happening in
the Middle East? Do you think our overturning of
Saddam's evil
empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of
thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their
lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old
crusades
(I don't recall any of them being all that successful
either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you?
http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer,
or are
you waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my
questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war"
and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers =
35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil =
107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO


Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of
yours. If
you see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those
replies and
provide credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion
with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize
credible
sources and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You
often
fail to provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)
THis coming from one who was caught in his own lie just yesterday!
--

I probably provide more references than anyone in the group, in
fact I
have been criticized for doing so

as to your question, I watch a variety of channels -- NBC, CBS, ABC
CNN,
CNBC and yes even Faux on occasion. The story was no more than a
cheap
adolescent shot. I'll bet you giggled for 10 min or so after
finding it.

NOW do you think you can muster the balls to answer my questions?



Think what you want. I already told you how I connected to the link
and
that method of connection was confirmed by another member here. I
had no
reason to lie, neither did he....yet you continue to focus on whether
or not
I saw some sort of spam car ad.

And as I said I have already responded to your questions. You have
yet
responded to any of mine nor most of what others here have asked you.

You are starting to come across like Bassy. You are coming across as
an
extremist.

Perhaps you indeed one.

Hmm, for someone who loves to correct other people's writing mistakes,
what to hell does THAT mean?

Jim, wrote:

So like all wannabe bullys, you resort to insults when the debate
becomes uncomfortable for you.

I still wonder if you're working under 2 names John H and JimH?

Bingo! He'll stop at nothing. The next thing he will do is start
spreading lies about you, your family, your job, your housing, the city
you live in, etc.

I thought you said you quit? Are you lying again?


wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...


JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...



JimH wrote:



"Jim," wrote in message
...




JimH wrote:





"Jim," wrote in message
.. .





JimH wrote:






"Jim," wrote in message
. ..






http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022705D.shtml




ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things
happening in
the Middle East? Do you think our overturning of
Saddam's evil
empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of
thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their
lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old
crusades
(I don't recall any of them being all that successful
either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you?
http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer,
or are
you waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my
questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war"
and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers =
35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil =
107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO


Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of
yours. If
you see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those
replies and
provide credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion
with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize
credible
sources and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You
often
fail to provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)
THis coming from one who was caught in his own lie just yesterday!
--

I probably provide more references than anyone in the group, in
fact I
have been criticized for doing so

as to your question, I watch a variety of channels -- NBC, CBS, ABC
CNN,
CNBC and yes even Faux on occasion. The story was no more than a
cheap
adolescent shot. I'll bet you giggled for 10 min or so after
finding it.

NOW do you think you can muster the balls to answer my questions?



Think what you want. I already told you how I connected to the link
and
that method of connection was confirmed by another member here. I
had no
reason to lie, neither did he....yet you continue to focus on whether
or not
I saw some sort of spam car ad.

And as I said I have already responded to your questions. You have
yet
responded to any of mine nor most of what others here have asked you.

You are starting to come across like Bassy. You are coming across as
an
extremist.

Perhaps you indeed one.

Hmm, for someone who loves to correct other people's writing mistakes,
what to hell does THAT mean?

Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.


wrote in message
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Jim, wrote:

So like all wannabe bullys, you resort to insults when the debate
becomes uncomfortable for you.

I still wonder if you're working under 2 names John H and JimH?

Bingo! He'll stop at nothing. The next thing he will do is start
spreading lies about you, your family, your job, your housing, the city
you live in, etc.

"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.



He has already threatened that. LOL.

"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
I thought you said you quit? Are you lying again?

Asslicker is not 'man enough' to keep his word



wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...


JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...



JimH wrote:



"Jim," wrote in message
...




JimH wrote:





"Jim," wrote in message
.. .





JimH wrote:






"Jim," wrote in message
. ..






http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022705D.shtml




ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things
happening in
the Middle East? Do you think our overturning of
Saddam's evil
empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of
thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their
lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old
crusades
(I don't recall any of them being all that successful
either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you?
http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer,
or are
you waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my
questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war"
and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers =
35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil =
107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO


Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of
yours. If
you see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those
replies and
provide credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion
with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize
credible
sources and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You
often
fail to provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)
THis coming from one who was caught in his own lie just yesterday!
--

I probably provide more references than anyone in the group, in
fact I
have been criticized for doing so

as to your question, I watch a variety of channels -- NBC, CBS, ABC
CNN,
CNBC and yes even Faux on occasion. The story was no more than a
cheap
adolescent shot. I'll bet you giggled for 10 min or so after
finding it.

NOW do you think you can muster the balls to answer my questions?



Think what you want. I already told you how I connected to the link
and
that method of connection was confirmed by another member here. I
had no
reason to lie, neither did he....yet you continue to focus on whether
or not
I saw some sort of spam car ad.

And as I said I have already responded to your questions. You have
yet
responded to any of mine nor most of what others here have asked you.

You are starting to come across like Bassy. You are coming across as
an
extremist.

Perhaps you indeed one.

Hmm, for someone who loves to correct other people's writing mistakes,
what to hell does THAT mean?

"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.

I wonder if asslicker has stopped beating his wife yet?



wrote in message
oups.com...

Jim, wrote:

So like all wannabe bullys, you resort to insults when the debate
becomes uncomfortable for you.

I still wonder if you're working under 2 names John H and JimH?

Bingo! He'll stop at nothing. The next thing he will do is start
spreading lies about you, your family, your job, your housing, the city
you live in, etc.

I wonder if they are living on opposite sides of the double wide?


"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.

I wonder if asslicker has stopped beating his wife yet?



wrote in message
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Jim, wrote:

So like all wannabe bullys, you resort to insults when the debate
becomes uncomfortable for you.

I still wonder if you're working under 2 names John H and JimH?

Bingo! He'll stop at nothing. The next thing he will do is start
spreading lies about you, your family, your job, your housing, the city
you live in, etc.

OK. Meanwhile, the Spanish spread their influence all over the world,
and
they were NOT delivering girl scout cookies and schoolbooks. Europeans
spent
hundreds of years annoying, dominating or killing people all over the
globe.
What's your point?

**********************

My point was that the "Crusades" were not responsible for driving
Muslims from Spain, as Calif. Bill supposed.

The Crusades are being viewed in a new, more favorable light by a large
number of people on the conservative side of the fence these days.
"Historical precedent". No point in giving the Crusades more credit
than they deserve. :-)

I wonder how many of the war mongers waxing nostalgic over the
Crusades, (probably a few saying, "We should have finished the job in
1130!"), actually realize that in the grand scheme of all the wars and
invasions throughout the centuries the WE (western europeans) generally
got their butts kicked?

The Spanish monarchs, F&I, treated their non-Christian subjects
ruthlessly and in equitably. That's what drove the Muslim merchants,
artists, astronomers, philosophers and doctors out of Spain, after the
Muslim military had departed. It's surprising that the right wingers
don't hail the religious persecution, execution, and expulsion of
non-conformists as one of the most glorious events in western history.

P.Fritz wrote:
"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
I thought you said you quit? Are you lying again?

Asslicker is not 'man enough' to keep his word


Hey, dumb ****, what did I say I quit? YOU are the only one here who
thinks that I said I wasn't going to post to this newsgroup. Where did
I say that, twit?

Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd. wrote:
I thought you said you quit? Are you lying again?


Nope, not lying at all. What to hell ever made you think that I EVER
said I wasn't going to post to this newsgroup again? You three are
losing your minds. You do nothing but lie about other people here. It's
truly pathetic to watch you three.

Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd. wrote:
Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.

Because he's like you, just a nasty little piece of **** liar not worth
bothering with.

JimH wrote:
"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.



He has already threatened that. LOL.

And listen well, ****head. You EVER screw with my family, EVER, and I
will make damned well sure you don't do it again, understand? You are
nothing but a nasty little lying cum spot of a human. You have lied
about other people here, the lowest form of life there is. What a nasty
little piglet. You and your wife go out in the boat this week, pig?

P.Fritz wrote:
"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.

I wonder if asslicker has stopped beating his wife yet?

Fritz, you need to seek help for your mental condition. With your wife
leaving you, and not being man enough to raise a kid, it's left you
dillusional. You think you AREN'T dillusional? Then answer one simple
question: What ever gave you the idea that I beat my wife? Please post
anything that I've ever said, or any other facts you may have, that
would back such a thought up. Or, seek help. Now, get your nose out of
Jim and Smither's asses long enough to answer the above. Do you have
the balls, punk boy?

wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.



He has already threatened that. LOL.

And listen well, ****head. You EVER screw with my family, EVER, and I
will make damned well sure you don't do it again, understand? You are
nothing but a nasty little lying cum spot of a human. You have lied
about other people here, the lowest form of life there is. What a nasty
little piglet. You and your wife go out in the boat this week, pig?


When did I ever screw with your family Bassy? And why the tone and foul
language?

You have threatened physical harm to me and others here. Do you now deny
that?

wrote in message
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P.Fritz wrote:
"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
I thought you said you quit? Are you lying again?

Asslicker is not 'man enough' to keep his word


Hey, dumb ****, what did I say I quit?

OMG. You are really a piece of cake Bassy.

Do you kiss your wife and kids with that mouth?


wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.



He has already threatened that. LOL.

And listen well, ****head. You EVER screw with my family, EVER, and I
will make damned well sure you don't do it again, understand? You are
nothing but a nasty little lying cum spot of a human. You have lied
about other people here, the lowest form of life there is. What a nasty
little piglet. You and your wife go out in the boat this week, pig?