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Doug Kanter March 2nd 05 04:05 AM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Jim," wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:

"Jim," wrote in message
...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022705D.shtml




ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things happening in the Middle
East? Do you think our overturning of Saddam's evil empire had
anything to do with it? ;-)


So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their lives for Allah
in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old crusades (I don't
recall any of them being all that successful either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth


That's rich. Your president claims the world will end if he doesn't invade a
sovereign country. The sky will fall, in other words. He invades, the place
turns into a free for all that makes the FARQ in Colombia look like pikers.
Jim, points out that ***FACT***, and you think he's making up a story?



[email protected] March 2nd 05 04:15 AM

Calif Bill wrote:

Seems like it has taken 700 years for the Mohammeden's (SP?) to return
to
try to control France. They are mostly out of Spain. Crusades did
remove
most of the Mohammeden's (as the Muslim's were know until about 1950)
from
Europe.


**************************

The Crusades (as in the invasion of the Holy Land) had nothing to do
with the expulsion of Muslims from Spain. The First Crusade was in 1095
CE, and the seventh and last traditionally recognized "crusade" was a
fait accompli before 1300 CE.

The Muslims dominated southern Spain until almost the begining of the
16th Century. The combined armies of Ferdinand and Isabella drove the
Moorish forces back across Gibralter into North Africa and the modern
nation of Spain was formed. In 1492, (a year we normally remember for
the voyage of Cristobal Colon), F & I expelled and/or (literally)
crucified an enormous percentage of the civilian populace. All gypsies,
Jews, and Muslims were ordered to publicly renounce their religions and
accept Christianity or get the heck out of Dodge. Those who stood by
their principles but were a bit slow to leave were murdered along with
those who totally defied the edict. One of the several political and
financial benefits of the expulsion was that all property that had
belonged to the expelled or crucified "heathens" escheated to the
crown.


Doug Kanter March 2nd 05 12:17 PM


wrote in message
ps.com...
Calif Bill wrote:

Seems like it has taken 700 years for the Mohammeden's (SP?) to return
to
try to control France. They are mostly out of Spain. Crusades did
remove
most of the Mohammeden's (as the Muslim's were know until about 1950)
from
Europe.


**************************

The Crusades (as in the invasion of the Holy Land) had nothing to do
with the expulsion of Muslims from Spain. The First Crusade was in 1095
CE, and the seventh and last traditionally recognized "crusade" was a
fait accompli before 1300 CE.

The Muslims dominated southern Spain until almost the begining of the
16th Century. The combined armies of Ferdinand and Isabella drove the
Moorish forces back across Gibralter into North Africa and the modern
nation of Spain was formed. In 1492, (a year we normally remember for
the voyage of Cristobal Colon), F & I expelled and/or (literally)
crucified an enormous percentage of the civilian populace. All gypsies,
Jews, and Muslims were ordered to publicly renounce their religions and
accept Christianity or get the heck out of Dodge. Those who stood by
their principles but were a bit slow to leave were murdered along with
those who totally defied the edict. One of the several political and
financial benefits of the expulsion was that all property that had
belonged to the expelled or crucified "heathens" escheated to the
crown.


OK. Meanwhile, the Spanish spread their influence all over the world, and
they were NOT delivering girl scout cookies and schoolbooks. Europeans spent
hundreds of years annoying, dominating or killing people all over the globe.
What's your point?



[email protected] March 2nd 05 02:17 PM


JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...


JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...



JimH wrote:



"Jim," wrote in message
...




JimH wrote:





"Jim," wrote in message
.. .





JimH wrote:






"Jim," wrote in message
. ..






http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022705D.shtml




ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things

happening in
the Middle East? Do you think our overturning of

Saddam's evil
empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of

thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their

lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old

crusades
(I don't recall any of them being all that successful

either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you?

http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer,

or are
you waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my
questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war"

and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers =

35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil =

107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO


Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of

yours. If
you see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those

replies and
provide credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion

with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize

credible
sources and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You

often
fail to provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)

THis coming from one who was caught in his own lie just yesterday!

--

I probably provide more references than anyone in the group, in

fact I
have been criticized for doing so

as to your question, I watch a variety of channels -- NBC, CBS, ABC

CNN,
CNBC and yes even Faux on occasion. The story was no more than a

cheap
adolescent shot. I'll bet you giggled for 10 min or so after

finding it.

NOW do you think you can muster the balls to answer my questions?



Think what you want. I already told you how I connected to the link

and
that method of connection was confirmed by another member here. I

had no
reason to lie, neither did he....yet you continue to focus on whether

or not
I saw some sort of spam car ad.

And as I said I have already responded to your questions. You have

yet
responded to any of mine nor most of what others here have asked you.

You are starting to come across like Bassy. You are coming across as

an
extremist.

Perhaps you indeed one.


Hmm, for someone who loves to correct other people's writing mistakes,
what to hell does THAT mean?


[email protected] March 2nd 05 02:19 PM


Jim, wrote:

So like all wannabe bullys, you resort to insults when the debate
becomes uncomfortable for you.

I still wonder if you're working under 2 names John H and JimH?


Bingo! He'll stop at nothing. The next thing he will do is start
spreading lies about you, your family, your job, your housing, the city
you live in, etc.


Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd. March 2nd 05 02:25 PM

I thought you said you quit? Are you lying again?


wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...


JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...



JimH wrote:



"Jim," wrote in message
...




JimH wrote:





"Jim," wrote in message
.. .





JimH wrote:






"Jim," wrote in message
. ..






http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022705D.shtml




ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things

happening in
the Middle East? Do you think our overturning of

Saddam's evil
empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of

thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their

lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old

crusades
(I don't recall any of them being all that successful

either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you?

http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer,

or are
you waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my
questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war"

and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers =

35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil =

107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO


Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of

yours. If
you see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those

replies and
provide credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion

with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize

credible
sources and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You

often
fail to provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)
THis coming from one who was caught in his own lie just yesterday!

--

I probably provide more references than anyone in the group, in

fact I
have been criticized for doing so

as to your question, I watch a variety of channels -- NBC, CBS, ABC

CNN,
CNBC and yes even Faux on occasion. The story was no more than a

cheap
adolescent shot. I'll bet you giggled for 10 min or so after

finding it.

NOW do you think you can muster the balls to answer my questions?



Think what you want. I already told you how I connected to the link

and
that method of connection was confirmed by another member here. I

had no
reason to lie, neither did he....yet you continue to focus on whether

or not
I saw some sort of spam car ad.

And as I said I have already responded to your questions. You have

yet
responded to any of mine nor most of what others here have asked you.

You are starting to come across like Bassy. You are coming across as

an
extremist.

Perhaps you indeed one.


Hmm, for someone who loves to correct other people's writing mistakes,
what to hell does THAT mean?




Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd. March 2nd 05 02:26 PM

Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Jim, wrote:

So like all wannabe bullys, you resort to insults when the debate
becomes uncomfortable for you.

I still wonder if you're working under 2 names John H and JimH?


Bingo! He'll stop at nothing. The next thing he will do is start
spreading lies about you, your family, your job, your housing, the city
you live in, etc.




JimH March 2nd 05 02:28 PM


"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.



He has already threatened that. LOL.



P.Fritz March 2nd 05 02:44 PM


"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
I thought you said you quit? Are you lying again?


Asslicker is not 'man enough' to keep his word



wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Jim," wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...


JimH wrote:


"Jim," wrote in message
...



JimH wrote:



"Jim," wrote in message
...




JimH wrote:





"Jim," wrote in message
.. .





JimH wrote:






"Jim," wrote in message
. ..






http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/022705D.shtml




ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the good laugh Jimcomma.

BTW: What do you thing of all the *good* things

happening in
the Middle East? Do you think our overturning of

Saddam's evil
empire had anything to do with it? ;-)

So you approve of the lies?

And what I see happening in Iraq is the creation of

thousands of
potential suicide bombers who will willingly give their

lives for
Allah in order to kill the infidels -- just like the old

crusades
(I don't recall any of them being all that successful

either)


Just for you Jimcomma: http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Care to answer the question now.

Do you approve of the lies?


You never answered mine.

I can't think of any good things offhand --



Figured. And what news channel do you watch?

Did you like the little story I gave you?

http://tinyurl.com/27hth
You could have been the main character.

The questions are still out there -- are you afraid to answer,

or are
you waiting for directions from someone else?




I already answered your questions. You have not answered mine.

I saw some political BS. A simple Yes or no will suffice to my
questions.

Too bad Americans are so eager to
accept the 1496 casualties and then says, "**** happens in war"

and then
forgets about it.

Latest numbers from right-wing John McLaughlin Group.

Amputations, wounded or mentally injured America soldiers =

35,500
35,500 lives ruined on top of the1496 Bush got killed

Iraqis killed by Bush's insatiable lust for Iraq's oil =

107,500estimate



So you approve of the lies? Check one --- Yes NO

Or the numbers? Check one Yes NO

I'm ashamed to answer Yes NO


Answer my previous questions please. I have answered all of

yours. If
you see my answers as "political BS" please respond to those

replies and
provide credible proof to dispute them.

On a personal note: You are pretty difficult to have a discussion

with.
You answer questions with questions. You fail to recognize

credible
sources and data as the truth if it does not fit your agenda. You

often
fail to provide credible sources of your claims.

;-)
THis coming from one who was caught in his own lie just yesterday!

--

I probably provide more references than anyone in the group, in

fact I
have been criticized for doing so

as to your question, I watch a variety of channels -- NBC, CBS, ABC

CNN,
CNBC and yes even Faux on occasion. The story was no more than a

cheap
adolescent shot. I'll bet you giggled for 10 min or so after

finding it.

NOW do you think you can muster the balls to answer my questions?



Think what you want. I already told you how I connected to the link

and
that method of connection was confirmed by another member here. I

had no
reason to lie, neither did he....yet you continue to focus on whether

or not
I saw some sort of spam car ad.

And as I said I have already responded to your questions. You have

yet
responded to any of mine nor most of what others here have asked you.

You are starting to come across like Bassy. You are coming across as

an
extremist.

Perhaps you indeed one.


Hmm, for someone who loves to correct other people's writing mistakes,
what to hell does THAT mean?






P.Fritz March 2nd 05 02:45 PM


"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
Why don't you go beat him up? Maybe break his pencil neck.


I wonder if asslicker has stopped beating his wife yet?



wrote in message
oups.com...

Jim, wrote:

So like all wannabe bullys, you resort to insults when the debate
becomes uncomfortable for you.

I still wonder if you're working under 2 names John H and JimH?


Bingo! He'll stop at nothing. The next thing he will do is start
spreading lies about you, your family, your job, your housing, the city
you live in, etc.







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